What do you say is the real solution for these mass shootings?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Give out your street address, WishIHadABiggen, and then we'll see.

You really need to train to be here. You're not ready yet.

your cognitive powers are rapidly deteriorating soon you will be a empty suit.go back to the minors and try to work your way back up.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

One teacher with one gun would have saved most of the lives.
He would have killed himself if confronted by somebody with a firearm.

When the tragedy occured at Virginia Tech I asked several of my friends who are college professors if they wanted guns on campus. Everyone said "NO". I'm sure if you asked teachers from K - 12 you would get the same response. Especially at the elementary level where the majority of teachers are women.

[gnadfly]

My solution? Turn off the TV.

[TheDaliLama]

Maybe if the shooter was employed he would have had more self respect and he would have been at work instead.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Maybe if the shooter was employed he would have had more self respect and he would have been at work instead.

You are fucking loony. Oh wait ... This is ALL Obama's fault. I get it now.

You ARE fucking loony.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You are fucking loony. Oh wait ... This is ALL Obama's fault. I get it now.

You ARE fucking loony.

you contribute nothing to these threads, you just like to call everybody dipshits

you are a waste of bandwidth

[JD Barleycorn]

Old poster Timpage. I corrected it for one student for population. She was pissed because she had no come back.


Well Speedie I don't get the same results on my campus. There is more than one us with a CCW permit and we would like to do so.

[guest010313]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

You might make that argument for wars but I've never seen a connection with religion in mass killings in the USA.......except in the name of Allah.

So shut your whore mouth.

How can you tell a Christian is trying to insult you? They steal the insult from someone else and then use it in the wrong context. How about you go to church and tell them how much time you spend on a hooker board. Is your tithe calculated before or after you put aside the money you spend on prostitutes?

[essence]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Are we ready to change the many of the fundemental aspects of being an "American", because of such a small occurance.

Here is a hint of the strange nature of being American. You think that owning automatic weapons is an important and fundamental aspect of being American, and you are proud of that fact? You think that it is a characteristic which raises you above any other nation?

Here is the heart of the problem. Fortunately not a problem shared by all Americans.

[essence]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

One teacher with one gun would have saved most of the lives.
He would have killed himself if confronted by somebody with a firearm.

Bollocks.

What about all the other 'accidental' deaths which result from arming all teachers?

Nonsense, bollocks, can't believe (well, maybe I am getting old, I can believe it, can't overestimate the ability for hums to be delusioned) anybody would write such rubbish.

Let me explain for those of you who are slow.

Once the gunman started killing with his weapons, how long would it be before the armed teacher got to the classroom and killed the gunman?

If entering a school room and confronting a gunman in the middle of the slaughter, how skilled would a relatively untrained teacher be at killing the gunman rather than accidentelly killing more children?

But my main argument is: if every school teacher had a gun with easy access in every classroom, in case a gunman enters and they need quick defence, how many accidents with fatalities would occur thoughout the country every day?

This 'solution', even if it helped in some circumstances, would have far worse ancillary effect.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by essence

Once the gunman started killing with his weapons, how long would it be before the armed teacher got to the classroom and killed the gunman?

If entering a school room and confronting a gunman in the middle of the slaughter, how skilled would a relatively untrained teacher be at killing the gunman rather than accidentelly killing more children?

This statement doesn't just apply to teachers. Some people (posters) actually believe that having a CCL "qualifies" them to confront any live-fire scenario ....

.. it is tantamount to walking out of the driver's license bureau with a beginner's license and driving onto the NASCAR track as the race begins.

A basic peace officer fresh out of an academy gets 10-20 times the amount of training and they are not fit and qualified to make an entry with an handgun against a vested shooter with a semi-automatic rifle ... or even a semi-auto handgun.

Second, 99% of the CCL carriers do not even have the right kind of loads for indoor, people congested environments in a live-fire situation.

Look at the amateur want-to-be reported from the Oregon mall shooting recently, who claimed the shooter killed himself because he pointed his pistol at him.

[JD Barleycorn]

Here is a hint of the strange nature of being American. You think that owning automatic weapons is an important and fundamental aspect of being American, and you are proud of that fact? You think that it is a characteristic which raises you above any other nation?

When did we start talking about automatic weapons? No legally owned automatic weapon has ever been used in a crime. You're off the reservation. It is semi- automatic weapons that we were talking about.

According the to FBI crime statistics a civilian is slightly LESS likely to shoot the wrong person than a police officer. You do not have to be a decathlete to defend yourself.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

My solution? Turn off the TV.

Actually that is not far from the solution. The more coverage these things get, the greater chance it will continue.

[Guest050715-1]

If the shooter had received the care he needed, this probably wouldn't have happened. Mental health is just as important as physical health. Managing care for the mentally ill would cut down on medical costs overall. It takes a terrible toll on individuals, families and society.

I also believe in management of one's own gun collection. If they had been locked away, it would also probably not have happened.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

If the shooter had received the care he needed, this probably wouldn't have happened.

It has been my understanding that his mental condition had been evaluated and that he was prescribed meds, which he didn't always take. When the "mental health" providers get to the level of the medical profession in the treatment of conditions (which is lacking itself at times for various reasons) then there may be a standard by which a Court can confine someone with a mental health problem for the rest of their lives ... since some "mental health" problems are apparently not curable or treatable.

So, when the liberals who want civil commitment instead of prison sentences decide that the Due Process Clause allows for life-commitments without a "reasonable doubt" then we need to figure out how "we" are going to pay for these warehousings of all these people that someone decided were "crazy" and needed to be locked up for the rest of their lives without possibility of release. In addition we need to hire and train more LE personnel who have "mental health" qualifications so that they can identify in the field the "crazies" from the "criminals" so that they can put them in the right facility when they are taking into custody for acting weird!!!!

Be nice to your family and neighbors and don't say anything "crazy" to them!