Fracking

[shooter1a]

Elisabeth, pick up a copy of this month's Popular Science. This issue is discussed in a manner more understandable to the layman. These guys are talking a bit over everyone’s head. But they are doing it so eloquently.

Rakhir, Oshins and Rodram I would like to commend the same issue to the three of you. It evolves through four large articles in this months issue. While it is not focused on fracking it does give a rather interesting picture of the current status of the petroleum industry and how long we have to develop alternative energy sources.

Rakhir, I only hope that we don’t have to face the Lorenz butterfly effect to which chaos theory would lead. But you are right to bring up chaos theory and fracking in the same breath. We will probably shelve fracking until we know what the down side will be, after all someone might get hurt using this dangerous method. Following this logic Hoover Dam would be an abandoned project.
I already make my coffee with bottled water I don’t want to have to shower with it also.

Obviously we need other sources of energy and those are not on the horizon, a blade on a windmill might fall off and hurt someone or a bird could get hurt flying into the thing.

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We don’t have a problem with lack of resources we have a problem with overabundance of people using those resources. If we cannot increase the availability of resources we must decrease the number of people relying on those limited resources.

Dr. Strangelove.

If we lowered Earths population to roughly a quarter of a billion we would have plenty of petroleum to last into the next century.

[Rodram]

shooter1a, in respects to your last statement; isn't the green energy initiative part of the solution? Or do you feel that green energy would not be a viable solution given the time frame of its measurable impact on our energy needs?

In the abstract, how do you feel about the defunding of Planned Parenthood?

[lacanterra]

I agree Johnrock... I too am in the OnG Industry and see this all the time.... if done correctly, there are no problems.

Hey by the way... ever been to Singapore, going there the end of the month for work... Damn the thought is killing me.....

Originally Posted by johnrock

I have personally been involved with hydraulic fracturing of tight gas reservoirs since the 1970's and of the hundreds of wells we stimulated, there has never been a hazardous leak or any environmental problem of any kind. It is safe and effective, though it requires a prudent operator to have properly set and cemented the well casing. Anyone who says differently has no idea of what they are talking about. Because of "fracing", there is an abundant supply of natural gas, at a reasonable price.

[Mokoa]

Originally Posted by Rodram

In the abstract, how do you feel about the defunding of Planned Parenthood?

That would be a topic for another thread. Let's stay with the topic of this thread.

[oldtiger]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

And I was SO hoping that "fracking" WAS a new sexual term that I hadn't heard before. Sigh. I so like those "f" words!

Elisabeth

I'm right there with you! I thought I was late to a Battlestar Galactica thread....

[Rodram]

Mokoa points out a possible OT question so allow me to clarify.

"In the abstract, how do you feel about the defunding of Planned Parenthood?" was in reference to this ending statement from shooter1a:

"We don’t have a problem with lack of resources we have a problem with overabundance of people using those resources. If we cannot increase the availability of resources we must decrease the number of people relying on those limited resources."

My Planned Parenthood question was an attempt to initiate a clarification from shooter1a about population control and was he going to make that case as a solution for our energy needs or was he using population control for its shock value to drive the urgency for a green energy solution.

[Mokoa]

You are straying from the topic. If you want to discuss other topics then start another thread.

Now, I politely asked to stick to the topic of this thread.

I will not ask again.

[shooter1a]

Actually, Mokoa, we were on topic. Fracking is closely tied to Planned Parenthood and the Green solution. Rodram and I actually knew where we were going with this. I was introducing a third solution. One, I fear, closly tied to "The Final Solution."
For those following this thread I have opened it under the name Rodram and Others.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1411422#post1 411422
Please lets try to continue this great discussion and thanks to Rodram for opening it up. If you have not been following the thread, See Fracking in the San Antonio Sanbox.
Rodram, I see the defunding of Planned Parenthood and the increased reliance on The Green Solution as too little too late. Goodbye human race too bad you couldn't outlast the dinosaurs