The First Lady's Speech

[CuteOldGuy]

"Had you went to Harvard", "had you went to junior college"? Which college had you went to, WTF?

[Doove]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

The polls show you obama folk are in the lead. I truly wonder how many of those votes are dead people.

You're actually serious with that comment, aren't you?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

"Had you went to Harvard", "had you went to junior college"? Which college had you went to, WTF?

Whip-ass U.

How about you old man, they even have college back when you was growing up? You do your grad at Neanderthal U!

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

couldnt watch it...that nor julian castro...watching them makes my stomach churn...

i did hear some talking heads... appears in their speeches they gave lip service to individual achievement because some focus group said to...and then seems it was government to the rescue all the way for both..and barack? he's a saint who will take care of you because he cares.

and oh yeah he was poor..because as a college kid..he took a hand me down table or something or other..what a joke.

one more poor story by all these rich ppl will make me puke

there is just so much dishonesty in all these people do and say its disheartening

Yeah, two Harvard Law School grads (who both graduated from one of the five top undergrad programs in the US) don't give a shit about individual achievement despite the fact that they worked their ass off through 19 years of formal schooling to reach one of the pinnacles of American education -- a degree from Harvard Law School. Just a couple of slackers, eh? What a fucking crock of shit.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

One of the things she said that just made me slap my forehead was, how much in debt they were for college. WTF. You don't HAVE to go harvard and if that's what you want then you can WORK your way through. No one single person in my family going back 4 generations, has ever EVER had college loan debt. We work for it. Every step.

I can speak to that a bit. I have a daughter at an Ivy League law school right now. I'm paying her way because we obviously don't qualify for financial aid. She isn't borrowing because it just runs up interest. But many of her fellow students are borrowing money (with some working part time jobs). Yes, you could work more, but it takes many hours to do well in that sort of competitive academic environment. Likewise, with starting salaries for graduates with good grades getting over $160,000/year, taking a few years off to earn enough to pay for $100,000 worth of law school tuition takes a much bigger bite out of your career earnings that you might otherwise imagine. Let's say you take a job our of your undergrad program making $50k and it takes you four years to save $100k. You miss out on $640,000 in earnings. That's a very steep price to pay to work your way through school. Granted not everybody gets, or wants, the top paying jobs. But average salaries through the placement office at her school are over $90,000 and they place almost all grads, despite the dismal job market for lawyers generally. Even at that reduced rate, it's still almost $400k in lost earnings to work your way through school.

[Whirlaway]

Joaquin Castro nursed on the tit of a Hispanic Supremist....their mother was one of the early influences in La Raza Unida - The One Race !

Can you imagine a white big city mayor with family connections like this ?

Only in the Democratic party.

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

How on earth do you figure Joaquin will loose his Congressional race in Tex-20. It's 2/3 Hispanic and probably as a DPI of over 60%. He's a shoe in.

http://gis1.tlc.state.tx.us/download...ANC235r100.pdf

And a hell of a nice guy. I've never met Julien, but those I know who have say he's a great guy, too.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by Dawgs

Kayla, no matter how many of us did it, those on the left will not believe it is at all possible without the help of big government to show them the way.

Not saying that it can't be done, but did you do it in four years? What was your major and how competitive was the university? Tough majors and top universities and graduating in four years, if you pay for every penny, you are a very, very industrious person indeed. Right now I'm paying almost $100,000 a year in college tuition for two kids.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

If I were advising the Republicans, I'd tell them to call Obama's bluff, and back off their resistance to taxing the rich. My bet would be that Obama wouldn't do it. And if he did, so what? They're rich. They'll put some lawyer's kid through college figuring out ways around it.

And it's a losing issue for Republicans.

Obama is just as sold out to Wall Street as the Republicans are. It would be fun to watch.

Serious question. Why the fuck wouldn't Obama and the Democrats take them up on it? They'd do it in a heartbeat. Secondly, while it is a looser politically for the Republicans, they would NEVER agree. It's the only reason they exist these days -- to give people in my income bracket tax cuts.

[rodog44]

Originally Posted by Little Stevie

Just as I thought. There are no substantive replies from the Teapublicans.

DO YOU AND THE REST OF THESE LIBERAL IDIOTS REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE SHOWED UP ON THEIR FIRST DATE IN A CAR THAT SHE COULD SEE THROUGH THE FLOORBOARD, WEARING SHOES THAT WERE ONE SIZE TOO SMALL. AND HIS MOST PRIZE POSSESSION WAS AN OLD COFFEE TABLE THAT HE GOT OUT OF A DUMPSTER. IF YALL BELIEVE ANY THAT SHIT I HAVE GOT SOME NICE SWAMP LAND THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

THE SON OF A BITCH WAS WORKING FOR A LAW FIRM WHEN THEY STARTED DATING AND SHE HAS THE GALL TO STAND UP THERE AND SAY HE COULDN'T AFORD A PAIR OF SHOES. HE WASN'T RAISED POOR AND NEITHER WAS SHE. YALL KEEP DRINKING THAT FUCKING COOL AID. :ra nting::ranti ng: :ra nting:

[Guest123018-4]

I did not get a college degree and what college I have I paid in full by wrking fulltime and going to college at night. I know of a lot of people that worked their way through college and did not take on any debt.

More about the speech. I found if amusing how she constantly shook her head no when she was telling her lies.

[rodog44]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Yeah, two Harvard Law School grads (who both graduated from one of the five top undergrad programs in the US) don't give a shit about individual achievement despite the fact that they worked their ass off through 19 years of formal schooling to reach one of the pinnacles of American education -- a degree from Harvard Law School. Just a couple of slackers, eh? What a fucking crock of shit.

OBOMA HIMSELF HAS ADMITTED HE WAS A SLACKER. HE SPENT HIS HIGH SCHOOL YEARS STONED AND DIDN'T WORK VERY HARD. I'M PARAPHRASING BUT HE SAID IT. THEN IN COLLEGE HE DRANK ALOT OF BEER AND SNORTED COCAIN ALL THE TIME. AGAIN THESE ARE HIS WORDS. YOU KNOW WHAT. COKE AINT CHEAP. I WONDER HOW THE POOR BASTERD COULD AFORD IT. AND THAT AINT NO CROCK OF SHIT. THAT'S WHAT YOUR PRESIDENT SAID. :ra nting::ranti ng:

[rodog44]

HAVE ANY OF YOU FUCKING LIBS READ HIS BOOKS OR DONE ANY RESEARCH ON WHO HIS FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES WERE. ALOT OF HIS FAMILY, HIS FRIENDS, HIS ASSOCIATES, AND HIS MENTORS WERE AND STILL ARE RADICAL SOCIALISTS AND SO IS HE. YOU CANT HANG AROUND DOGS ALL DAY AND NIGHT AND NOT BE COVERED IN FLEAS.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by rodog44

. YOU CANT HANG AROUND DOGS ALL DAY AND NIGHT AND NOT BE COVERED IN FLEAS.

Like your avatar?

[WTF]

Let me get this straight....when Paul Ryan went to school on government money and became a US House member it was a great thing. When Obama and did so and became a the President of the United States, it was a bad thing?

Is that what you silly fuckers are trying to say?

When the two twins from SA did so, it is a bad thing?

WTF is wrong with you Tea Nuts?

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

I did not get a college degree and what college I have I paid in full by wrking fulltime and going to college at night. I know of a lot of people that worked their way through college and did not take on any debt.

More about the speech. I found if amusing how she constantly shook her head no when she was telling her lies.

If you work and go to an Ivy League part time and forego loans, that may be admirable, but it probably doesn't make economic sense. You'd be better off to take the loan and graduate more quickly since the increase in your wages is so high (see the rough numbers I used in post #50). Nothing wrong with that route in other contexts where it makes sense, however. I asked my daughter tonight when we visited and she knew of no part time students at her law school.

WTF, I can answer that. First, Ryan is white. Second, the went to Georgetown which is a very good, but high second tier, law school. For reasons that I don't understand, but have become personally acquainted with recently, some people, especially high school educated conservatives, just hate Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and some of the other truly top universities in this country. The hatred is irrational, but it is deep seated and visceral. And it can be quit ugly even when directed at students that are strangers to the person expressing the hatred. it does not extend to highly educated conservatives, as many of them are alumnae of these same institutions. I was actually in a small group of people who briefly discussed this very issue with former Judge, now Dean Ken Starr (Brown and Duke Law) several months ago.