Discounts and Frequent Flyer programs

[Rider68]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Me, too. I'd like to hope most ladies offer music, refreshments, candles, lingerie, and all the rest of the trimmings if they're advertising GFE and serious about it. Oh, lets not forget lipstick in a choice of flavors and colors for all the k-i-s-s-i-n-g!

Kissing! Now that is a novel idea and it's fun to do too!

[guest101013-2]

Originally Posted by hotlips_houlihan

and you assume that every escort sees 2 a day, or even 1 a day? what fantasy world are you living in?

even if that were true for one week, she may go another 3 weeks and not get a single thing. so in those 3 weeks of no income, she's still putting out those expenses. so when that 1 profitable week does roll around again, she's behind the 8 ball.

i love how guys in the hobby think we ladies make soooo much money. goes to show they really don't know jack.

Meg

If you are not getting any business three weeks in a row, you are definitely doing something wrong. Your business model does not work. Either the services you provide are subpar or your prices are too high for what the consumer wants. Apparently the competition is providing a better service at a better price. Like I mentioned before, would you want to see me once every couple of months for $300 or once or twice a week at $100. In most guys minds, it is easier to justify $100 vs $300 for an hour thrill.

[MsElena]

Originally Posted by nashluv69

In most guys minds, it is easier to justify $100 vs $300 for an hour thrill.

Of course it is, because its a lower rate and everyone loves a deal. But, in all honesty most ladies who charge $100 aren't going to give you the full GFE experience, you'll be seeing them in a motel 6 and you'll be the 10th guy she sees that day.

Sorry, but I prefer NOT to be the Taco Bell of the hobby world.

With someone who charges more, you get more of an experience most of the times. But, that's already been explained.

Some guys just don't get it and never will. Some guys just assume that it doesn't cost money to be in this business, it does. Finding the men who understand the providers side of this subject is like striking gold.

I honestly think that this thread has been played out.

Let's just agree to disagree. As is par for the course with threads on this subject.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by nashluv69

...Like I mentioned before, would you want to see me once every couple of months for $300 or once or twice a week at $100. In most guys minds, it is easier to justify $100 vs $300 for an hour thrill.

Nothing wrong with a business offering reasonable price breaks for loyal patronage over time. (Although a cut from $300 to $100 is a pretty deep slash for most ladies to feel.) Someone returning to me for a second session recently asked for a "fidelity discount," which seemed humorously incongruous in our bed-hopping hobby centered on infidelity.

I'm a little different as I've never offered hour sessions to begin with. My gentlemen friends usually see me monthly for blocks of time, an afternoon, an evening, a night, a weekend, at "bulk" rates far better than what I would ask for sixty minutes. Guess I've had a "member" program with points all along.

If someone were to arrange regular weekly visits, I would be very amenable to negotiations. I might parley naked, however. You fellows are much more agreeable with bare breasts and buns at eye level and touching distance.

[guest101013-2]

Originally Posted by MsElena

Of course it is, because its a lower rate and everyone loves a deal. But, in all honesty most ladies who charge $100 aren't going to give you the full GFE experience, you'll be seeing them in a motel 6 and you'll be the 10th guy she sees that day.

Sorry, but I prefer NOT to be the Taco Bell of the hobby world.

With someone who charges more, you get more of an experience most of the times. But, that's already been explained.

Some guys just don't get it and never will. Some guys just assume that it doesn't cost money to be in this business, it does. Finding the men who understand the providers side of this subject is like striking gold.

I honestly think that this thread has been played out.

Let's just agree to disagree. As is par for the course with threads on this subject.

Elena,

We are preaching the same thing. Everyone is different. Sometimes I like to eat at Taco Bell as you mentioned and then sometimes a 5 star restaurant. Everyone has different business models and on the opposite side different consumer models. As for me, I like the variety this hobby offers. Have had piss poor meetings with high dollar providers and low dollar providers. On the contrary, have had great sessions with high and low dollar providers. Lately though, the high dollar providers haven't been worth it lately. It tends to run in streaks in my world anyhow. It all boils down to the chemistry between you and the provider.

Like in any small business, I do realize that it takes money on the providers side to make expenses and provide a decent wage. Making money in any business is tough, even in this industry and especially in this economy.

I also agree this thread has passed its prime.

[John Bull]

Now isn't this much better with everyone being nicer.

I've seen this thread 1000 times in my years on the boards. Never seen an agreement yet. Don't imagine I ever will!

Someone said to me that this thread and others like it are really started just to cause a ruckus. I don't know about that but I do know, they always do.

[MsElena]

JB,

I'm always nice, you know that. Contrary to what some believe.


Nash,

I know where you're coming from. I don't think myself or other ladies were offended with your posts as much as someone else's. As I've said before, its not always what's said, but how you say it.

Speaking of Taco Bell, I need to hit my kitchen and make some mexican food. I'm starving. And no, there's no drive thru service here.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by MsElena

...Speaking of Taco Bell, I need to hit my kitchen and make some mexican food. I'm starving. And no, there's no drive thru service here.

I'm actually making nachos tonight for someone at my incall. That queso makes a nice, warm dip for the twin peaks, then a little guacamole to cool them down before someone heads down to the Irish taco.

[hotlips_houlihan]

Originally Posted by nashluv69

If you are not getting any business three weeks in a row, you are definitely doing something wrong. Your business model does not work. Either the services you provide are subpar or your prices are too high for what the consumer wants. Apparently the competition is providing a better service at a better price. Like I mentioned before, would you want to see me once every couple of months for $300 or once or twice a week at $100. In most guys minds, it is easier to justify $100 vs $300 for an hour thrill.

If you have a dollar in your pocket to buy a candy bar and you go into every store and the candy is the same price, you are going to pick whatever "floats your boat" that day. Say it's a pack of M&Ms. Then tomorrow you go back with another dollar but you already had the M&Ms so this day you want an Almond Joy. Sure, one store may have a candy sale and you can get 2 for 1 on a particular day, but that's probably because the candy is stale or expired and they want to get rid of it. I'm not sure about you, but I would rather have the fresh candy. See the principle here?

Did you even consider it could be because one lives in a city where there are hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, of ladies doing the exact same thing you are doing and not as many gents. It's called supply and demand. It has nothing to do with the competition providing a better service at a better price-in fact, there is nothing "subpar" about me or my services. Ladies in "this" area do not last long in the business if they are "subpar." I have been around a long time-I must be doing something right, eh?

It has to do with too much supply and not enough demand. Again, you have proven you don't know jack about the other side of the fence. Because of said competition is why we ladies offer special things to those we visit with often. It's our way of saying "thank you." But we do not kid ourselves and think we are the only lady said gent is visiting.

Well-known friends receive many more perks than just guy A coming for a visit for the first time. But asking a lady to drop from 300 to 100 for an hour because you feel you are so special is just absurd. That might work in Omaha, but that wouldn't fly in Dallas. If she's seeing you 2 times a week at 100 a visit, how many other guys has run up in her that week at those prices? I'm sure you are not the only one who found the "deal" and conquered it. But...

Continue to do what you do best-look for the K-Mart blue light bargain specials and let us ladies handle our business aspect of it.

Respectfully,

Meg

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by Marla

Raina, I know, it seesm the guys think we are making our hourly rate free and clear of any overhead and taxes, and use that assumption as a crutch to justify saying..."well you girls are making over a grand a week...so I want a discount"

Not even adding in what we pay uncle sam, we have:
250/weekly minimum for incall
60/weekly gas to get to the incall
15/box of condoms for the week
30/week nails, hair, pedicures
15/week sodas and waters to offer the clients when they come to the incall
200-400/week daycare for those of us who have little ones

And I am leaving off a lot of stuff like costs for internet access, phones, advertising, which is probably on average another 100/week when you roll it all together.

So theoretically, if I bring in 1k a week, I go home with 300-ish. Oh baby we are really rolling in the dough there. Ladies, don't run out and spend your big bad 300 bucks all in one place!!!

The above breakdown is why we do not wish to negotiate our rates any lower than they are. So many of you guys are already getting such a deal on ladies with stellar service but fairly average rates, what on earth would possess you to want to push for an even bigger discount. It would be like your boss suddenly deciding that you aren't worth what he is paying you, and you are bumped back down to minimum wage STAT. So now what are you going to do? Could you cover your expenses?

No I am not aiming to get all woe is me on you guys but DAMN. Everytime I hear a guy say, "she clears a grand a week" it just makes me sick, because I know in your ignorance you really must believe that we are taking home 1k free and clear to spend how we wish and you are entirely overlooking how much of that money gets reinvested back into the business before we ever leave the incall and head home for the day.

As you can see we need to bring in way more than 1k a week in order to combat the overhead and actually make a decent take home wage. How ever a lady decides to do this is her choice. Some DO lower their rates and go higher volume. Some choose to tough it out and stick to the rate that they know they are worth, thus remaining lower volume and being able to provide a more unrushed, genuine experience for their gentlemen callers. There is no right answer, except to respect what ever rate the lady decides to set herself at, and if you do not like that rate for whatever reason, just move on to the next lady.

I don't hold any bad feelings for a provider on how much she makes. We do understand that you have expenses in life just as we do. I say price yourself at whatever you think will make you happy. All I ask is that when we do agree to pay you give the service we expect for it. Once I deliver the donation I want to be transported to that little fantasy place called euphoria for an hour or two. Most of you do such an amazing job of this. It's the ones that act like they are doing you a favor that get me a little angry. It's the ones that you can tell they hate the hobby and are only doing it for the money. Believe me it comes out in the performance. But as I said price yourself as you believe and if you are a good provider you will do just fine.

[Guest121711]

Well said MR.Burk and thank you! You are a true gentlemen.

[Guest090116-1]

Okay, just as this is winding down......

Despite my actions in the past, I have always found it a much more pleasurable and satisfying experience with a known 200-300 session than really any 100 session.

100 sessions are really not much more than a 20 phone sex session. And even on the phone there will be much more dirty talk! lol
So why not just settle on the 20 phone session, get off, and wait and plan for a better upper tier experience? ( but let's not get into the planning problems that can exist for some of us.)

Okay, I voted.

[MsElena]

Phone sex....hmmmmm. Love phone sex.

[Guest090116-1]

Hmmmm...I love phone sex too! Although, the first time I did it I must've done it wrong. My ass rang for a week!


Thank you, be sure to try the chicken and tip your waitress!

[Sensia]

Originally Posted by John Bull

Someone said to me that this thread and others like it are really started just to cause a ruckus. I don't know about that but I do know, they always do.

I think you are right on that. I think with all the back and forth perceptions become distorted and a lot of assumptions made with regard to the women in the escort industry. This isn't Amsterdam, or Canada or the Red light district, this is the US. There are many factors that go into why a lady/girl would charge what they do for time and companionship. It doesn't matter. Those who think they can badger the ladies into lowering rates with threads like these need to take a closer look at themselves and what it is they are doing with this behavior. Many women go above and beyond to provide a clean/safe place for their clients, and they take time to invest in their health and stay on top of things with regard to that. There is a certain amount of class, dignity, and professionalism that comes with these ladies. So it is not surprising that they would place a price point to reflect that.

The client has to ask themselves how much their safety is worth by going cheap. Take a look at the ladies who walk the streets, and the ones who send you to a cheap notel with known drug traffic and police running around. Sure you can get a lady like that for a 100 or under, but you have a lot more risk involved. You may also be dealing with a lady/girl who has huge volume, is worn out, and has little time for proper hygiene in between her appts. Again very risky, going cheap and visiting someone like this.

To me it is common sense.