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Old 08-06-2010, 08:54 PM   #46
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YUK! She'd taste like an ashtray.
Dagny Taggart? Well, her character was written in the 50's, so she'd likely be a bit different if developed today. Besides, a woman like that, you don't turn down over something superficial.

I'd also dig Dominique Francon.

I'd also like Nicci from Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" series.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:51 PM   #47
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Dagny Taggart? Well, her character was written in the 50's, so she'd likely be a bit different if developed today. Besides, a woman like that, you don't turn down over something superficial.

I'd also dig Dominique Francon.
All of Rand's women smoked to excess because Rand did herself.


Dominique Francon had issues, but Patricia Neal was a babe in the movie.


Read Martha Nussbaum for an interesting take on Rand.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:56 PM   #48
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Heathcliff of Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights
Agreed. He is the guy that I would want to fuck until I couldn't walk. You don't get many of those to the pound
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:58 PM   #49
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That's a dark fascination. Wouldn't you rather have had Darcy and Pemberley?
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That's a dark fascination. Wouldn't you rather have had Darcy and Pemberley?
Darcy and Pemberley and Wentworth et al would be good long term lovers. Husband material. I imagine them to be attentive and men that would invest in making the relationship better and better (on all levels). But for a night of no holds barred, animalistic raw passion..Heathcliff all the way. I imagine him to be someone who you want to explore your boundries with me..push the ticket. He's not relationship or husband material but he's got the raw unadulteraterd sex thing down. I would be more interested in John Thornton (Elizabeth Gaskell's 'North and South") for something long term. Yes sir, if I were back in 1876 I would have no shame in trying to catch that man's eye.

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Just a little aside ... Hi Camille! Nice to see you back around here!!!

Hope you're well,
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Nice to "see" you too xxx
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Yes Camille, nice to see you in our little bailiwick.
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All of Rand's women smoked to excess because Rand did herself. Dominique Francon had issues, but Patricia Neal was a babe in the movie. Read Martha Nussbaum for an interesting take on Rand.
I'll give it a read. My master's thesis explored a few aspects of Rand's philosophy. She credits Aristotle and Aquinas, for example; yet the vital core of her philosophy, albeit with changes, is Nietzschean. Though stands against communism (a/k/a dialectical materialism) she not only accepts communism's materialistic premise (which leads to contradictions such as an inability to tax a free people in order to provide for defense of their freedom) but also copies ideas wholesale from members of the Frankfurt School, most especially Erich Fromm. On top of this, she accepts the Lysenkoist view of human plasticity crucial to Marxism as expressed through the Boasian school of anthropology. This radical nurturance premise that ignores all influence of nature leads to errors in her attributions of motivation in her psychoepistemology that have been magnified by exponents such as Hurd.

In short, I have some familiarity with the fact that, like all products of human intelligence; her philosophy and fiction fall short of the ideal.

Nevertheless, I appreciate her sense of life, her championing of what Fromm would describe as "man for himself" and her reasoned connection of the conservative premise that "ideas have consequences." So I don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Dagny can just get some nicorette and we'll be fine. lol
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Thank you JB..and for your help with everything

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Why, when the question is "literary" character, are people listing folks from TV and movies? "Literary" means pertaining to literature, no?
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Agreed. He is the guy that I would want to fuck until I couldn't walk. You don't get many of those to the pound

WooHoo! Look who's slummin'!

I'm so pleased to see you.
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I'm so pleased to see you.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:15 AM   #59
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Why, when the question is "literary" character, are people listing folks from TV and movies? "Literary" means pertaining to literature, no?

thats why i said Betty
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Any female character from Dickens - NOT!

I found David Copperfield's tedious sentimentality very boring.

What about whatsname from Joyce's Ulysses? Molly Bloom. Could be lots of fun.

Or the prostitute heroine from Crime and Punishment? Sonya.

I agree with Tess.
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