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Old 07-23-2012, 05:51 PM   #46
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Joe - you are definitely smoking something. You know we spend about $700 billion a year in defense already? We spend 41% of the world's total defense expenditures and you want more? Defense spending is about 22-24% of the government's budget and you want more? Tell you what, let's cut the programs you mention, but let's also stop misusing my tax dollars in defense spending. I'm sure we could live within our means as well if someone was watching how the money is spent. I'm sure $700 billion would be more than enough to protect our country.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:01 PM   #47
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Obama appointed Mark Lloyd as the so called diversity czar. He openly praises Hugo Chavez and his "incredible revolution".

Mark Lloyd, chief diversity officer of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), said at a conference:
In Venezuela, with Chavez, really an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution to begin to put in place saying that we are going to have impact on the people of Venezuela. The property owners and the folks who were then controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled [...] folks here in the U.S. government worked to oust him and came back and had another revolution and Chavez then started to take seriously the media in this country.
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/...t-hugo-chavez/

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/...t-hugo-chavez/
Here is a quote from joe blow's source.

When Beck asked Motley “the most disturbing thing” about Lloyd, Motley said:
He is fundamentally opposed to virtually any private ownership of media. He is fundamentally opposed — he faults — the original sin in communications, in his opinion, is when Jefferson — President Jefferson relinquished control, the post office control of the telegraph.

Samuel Morse invented the telegraph in 1837. Jefferson died in 1826.

You just looked for somebody who had something negative to say. You don't even care what they are saying or if is true or not. Not even when it is obviously wrong (28 years off).

But I'm sure everything else joe posts or says is true.

Maybe?

An 8th man in the batting order of a minor league team (.190-.210) kind of being right?

Probably.

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Old 07-23-2012, 06:12 PM   #48
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Actually Chavez is becoming a threat to the US. Venezuela and Iran are currently building ICBM bases in Venezuela. It's shaping up to be similar to the Cuban missile crisis, except Obama won't insist on their removal. He'll probably help them with technology, the way Clinton did with the Chinese.

From AmericanThinker. Com:

Iran and Venezuela are feverishly building ICBM bases on the Paraguana Peninsula, a thumbnail shaped spit of arid land around a thousand square miles in size, 250 miles northwest of Caracas. These bases are designed to house missiles with nuclear tipped warheads capable of reaching large portions of the United States. From the Jerusalem Post, in May of 2011, and noted at the time by American Thinker, we read about these stunning developments that the Obama Administration and their socialist enablers in the media want to bury before the 2012 election.



So American thinker picked up on a May 2011 story in one paper that quoted another paper's story . This was on Jan 5 2012.
And no updates since.

The sky is not falling.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:06 PM   #49
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So let's borrow more money so we can bomb both Iran and Venezuela.
I'm glad to see you're on board!
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:12 PM   #50
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Joe - you are definitely smoking something. You know we spend about $700 billion a year in defense already? We spend 41% of the world's total defense expenditures and you want more? Defense spending is about 22-24% of the government's budget and you want more? Tell you what, let's cut the programs you mention, but let's also stop misusing my tax dollars in defense spending. I'm sure we could live within our means as well if someone was watching how the money is spent. I'm sure $700 billion would be more than enough to protect our country.
I'm all for cutting waste in defense or any other government program. The best place to cut spending is to eliminate all the illegal programs, the ones not allowed by the Constitution. If we did that, we'd be in surplus over night.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:19 PM   #51
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Personally I like the Iranians, and Ahmadi-nejad. First the US overthrew their elected Prime Minister in 1953 and gave them an asshole torturing despot for 25 years before the people rose up and tossed him out.

Then they fought Saddam Hussein from 1980 to 1989, and would have defeated him totally if it weren't for the US helping him out to prevent it.

Then in 2001 after everything the US has done to them they get branded part of the "axis of evil" even though they've never done a damn thing to threaten the US.

After that they found themselves completely and totally surrounded by US military forces all around them on every side. US and Israeli covert operators are everywhere in Iran trying to destablize them and killing whoever they want. Then the US and Israel stage pychops against them claiming falsely that they were behind a plan to kill a Saudi diplomat in New York, and to blow up a bus in Bulgaria -- all bullshit.

They've held their own pretty well all things considered.

And everything the US and Israelis have done to them recently has only made the nationalists there all the stronger....and the democatic opposition much weaker.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:38 PM   #52
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You're not kidding anyone with your thinly-veiled insults no matter how well camouflaged you try to make them, you old gizzard.

. . . We all know you are the most sneaky bastard on the board!





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I was just pointing out that Hugo Chavez likes Obama. Obama was to improve our image around the world, so I guess this is one of his successes. Geez, even when I try to be nice to the guy, people get upset.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:01 PM   #53
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Personally I like the Iranians, and Ahmadi-nejad. First the US overthrew their elected Prime Minister in 1953 and gave them an asshole torturing despot for 25 years before the people rose up and tossed him out.

Then they fought Saddam Hussein from 1980 to 1989, and would have defeated him totally if it weren't for the US helping him out to prevent it.

Then in 2001 after everything the US has done to them they get branded part of the "axis of evil" even though they've never done a damn thing to threaten the US.

After that they found themselves completely and totally surrounded by US military forces all around them on every side. US and Israeli covert operators are everywhere in Iran trying to destablize them and killing whoever they want. Then the US and Israel stage pychops against them claiming falsely that they were behind a plan to kill a Saudi diplomat in New York, and to blow up a bus in Bulgaria -- all bullshit.

They've held their own pretty well all things considered.

And everything the US and Israelis have done to them recently has only made the nationalists there all the stronger....and the democatic opposition much weaker.
Eisenhower installed the Shah as a way of preventing the spread of communism. The Iranians were better off under the Shah than the Ayatollah Khomeini and Ahmadinejad.

The Iranians are the biggest source of Islamic terrorism in the world. They support Hamas and Hezbollah. They are an enemy of America's best ally in the world, Israel. That makes them an enemy to America and to every patriotic American.

From Politico.Com:

Iran's trail of terror

Not since the fall of the Soviet Union has any nation so aggressively pursued alliances with bad actors in so many places worldwide, acknowledged Reuel Marc Gerecht, a former CIA officer who focused primarily on Iran. “Their outreach is bolder than it used to be” and is “pretty disturbing” given “their proclivity for nefarious activity.”

Late last month, Rep. Peter King, (R-N.Y.), chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, told Congress: “Most disturbingly, we learned” that “there are hundreds of Hezbollah operatives already inside this country” including some who were apprehended “with military training and combat experience in Lebanon.”

“The regime, since its earliest days, has been on a mission,” Gerecht said. “They really do see a clash of civilizations, and they see themselves as the cutting edge for one side, the Muslim side. And for them, the first cut for dividing the world is: ‘Are you opposed to the United States? Are you the enemy of the U.S.?’ If so, the Iranians will look upon you fondly.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories...048_Page3.html
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:42 PM   #54
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You're not kidding anyone with your thinly-veiled insults no matter how well camouflaged you try to make them, you old gizzard.

. . . We all know you are the most sneaky bastard on the board!


Ah, FastGoon, I knew I couldn't hide it from you!

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