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05-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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Liberals get tax deductions when they give to charity, just like the conservatives, and yet they don't give as much as conservatives. My point remains; conservatives are more generous than liberals. They donate more money, more blood and more time than liberals.
Liberals love to characterize conservatives as Scrooges and Grinches; if anything, it's the reverse. There's an old saying, money talks and bullshit walks. Liberals love to talk about helping the poor but when it comes time to get out the check book they don't donate.
Liberals are hypocrites.
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Liberals want the government to indiscriminately help all the poor. Conservatives only want to help their kind. They do not want their money going to help other tribes. That is why they want low taxes. They do not approve of where the charity goes.
We can spin this forever. Bring it on joe blow. You aren't the only one versed in this topic.
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05-11-2012, 03:30 PM
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And I don't feel the need to defend him. 90% of the bullshit you idiots post up about Obama acting like it is the gospel truth is either an outright lie or is based on ignorance, bigotry and/or racism.
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This lady, with her logical abilities, is pretty much a composite of COG, IB, JD, et al.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=nMANMIe0ZZI#!
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05-11-2012, 03:43 PM
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Liberals want the government to indiscriminately help all the poor. Conservatives only want to help their kind. They do not want their money going to help other tribes. That is why they want low taxes. They do not approve of where the charity goes.
We can spin this forever. Bring it on joe blow. You aren't the only one versed in this topic.
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As usual, you make my argument for me. You say government programs don't discriminate. Unfortunately, you're absolutely right. They don't discriminate between the truly needy and the freeloaders who take advantage of the system, the people who are able to work but would rather live off of their neighbors.
Conservatives want private sector charities administering programs helping the poor so that fraud can be controlled and so that 80% of the donated money can go to the poor instead of 30%.
After trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, government social welfare programs have failed at eliminating poverty. They have created a permanent underclass of freeloaders addicted to welfare. The welfare addicts have lost, not only their work ethic, but also their self respect.
Democrats continue to support the social welfare state, in it's current form, because it's a way of buying votes. It's not about compassion. It's all about power.
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05-11-2012, 04:20 PM
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As usual, you make my argument for me. You say government programs don't discriminate. Unfortunately, you're absolutely right. They don't discriminate between the truly needy and the freeloaders who take advantage of the system, the people who are able to work but would rather live off of their neighbors. I agree , it needs to be overhauled. That is for another debate.
Conservatives want private sector charities administering programs helping the poor so that fraud can be controlled and so that 80% of the donated money can go to the poor instead of 30%. Well then we need to quit having charties be tax deductible. Trurly give away your own money, not money that could pay down the debt
After trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, government social welfare programs have failed at eliminating poverty. They have created a permanent underclass of freeloaders addicted to welfare. The welfare addicts have lost, not only their work ethic, but also their self respect.
Democrats continue to support the social welfare state, in it's current form, because it's a way of buying votes. It's not about compassion. It's all about power. Good point
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05-11-2012, 10:37 PM
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I'm glad you enjoy making things up about me that aren't true, Doofe, and then congratulate yourself on how much better you are than the imaginary me you caricature. It must make your pitiful existence a little more tolerable. Whatever I can do to give your pathetic, lonely life meaning, is worth it to me.
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05-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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Are Dogmatics like a toaster oven for Obamas favoite mea?
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LOL, it’s the best I could come up with. I guess I could have called them Sheeple.
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I'm voting for this as "The Most Outrageously Stupid Post of the Year". Even if you intended it to be funny, the hypothesis is too absurd to be funny and that last comment is arrogant and elitist although there is nothing elitist about your permanent identification as a LIV.
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Syntax error. She goes on to say it was a joke.
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What if the middle class is shrinking because they are moving into the rich category? Middle class would still be shrinking because the vast majority of the poor will not have the will or the chance to move into the middle class.
Ya I don't buy it either, but it was a thought.
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Things would be fine if we revoked the voting rights of the LIVS! (Low Intelligence Voters)
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How about we go back to requiring voters to be landowners. As long as we’re being insulting – and all.
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05-12-2012, 11:28 AM
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I'm glad you enjoy making things up about me that aren't true,
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This from the guy who claims Obama is a Marxist.
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Doofe, and then congratulate yourself on how much better you are than the imaginary me you caricature.
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Nevertheless, I didn't make anything up. I was simply referring to your incoherent attempts at logic, most recently evidenced in the "Romney didn't cut anyone's hair" threads.
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It must make your pitiful existence a little more tolerable. Whatever I can do to give your pathetic, lonely life meaning, is worth it to me.
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05-12-2012, 07:21 PM
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Conservatives give a much higher percentage of their income to charity than liberals. This is not due to income; it's true for poor and middle class conservatives as well as the rich.
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First, "conservative" doesn't necessarily equate to "fiscal conservative"; at least not in the same way the angry, rabid, hateful dogs in here are fiscal conservatives. Ask your typical church going conservative (who thinks you and i will both burn in hell for participating on an escort review board, by the way) what they think of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and HEAP, and i'll bet they're likely to be all for each of them.
You, not so much. You and your buddies in here don't give a penny to charity. I know it, you know it, and everyone in here knows it.
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05-12-2012, 07:56 PM
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Douchee while you got the bag out. Hit the other hole because you are full of shit. LOL
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05-12-2012, 08:02 PM
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What if the middle class is shrinking because they are moving into the rich category? Middle class would still be shrinking because the vast majority of the poor will not have the will or the chance to move into the middle class.
Ya I don't buy it either, but it was a thought.
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Hahaha, You tickle me with that one, lol. The reality is the middle class is shrinking into the poor class. There will always be Poor people and Rich People, it just so happens that the middle classes are becomming exstinct.
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