Did Anyone Watch Day 2 Of The Second Democratic Debate?

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Overall - the most interesting and impressive candidate to me was Andrew Yang.

I was impressed, too.. I need to see much more of him before I can evaluate him properly. he seems intelligent and future-minded.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The clear winner last night was Booker.

this.. Booker easily won the debate. until recently he has been the "gun control" candidate, nobody wanted to hear anything else. like Yang, I need to know a lot more about Booker.

Originally Posted by gnadfly

I heard nobody brought up Russia again. Three years of the bullshit and the moderators and candidates have abandoned it.

what do you want them to say? anything Trump-related should be ignored for now.. this is a Primary process to choose Democrats. all of them dislike Trump, I want to hear about their differences with one another.

Originally Posted by eccielover

Yeah, it's great watching the left eat their own. I watched a little of the post coverage on MSNBC and they were totally bashing the debate format and style of CNN.

hyperbole.. nobody ate anybody. small differences pointed out, attempted jabs at historical impropriety. every Primary has jabs at each other, the Republicans were systematically picked off by Trump, who mastered the attack on primary opponents. each one of those candidates is now scared to death of Trump, LOL..

why bash CNN? they set up the format for ratings. deal with it. the smart candidates sat for lengthy interviews after the debate, where we learned much more about them.

[Austin Ellen]

I like his idea. I see him as "thinking outside the box" and I like those kind of folks. I also understand poverty.
If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate. And desperate people will do desperate things. I think he gave an honest answer to climate change and the article that you showed said it was "defeatism" -- I think it refreshing. I can see his motivation and energy coming thru. He's not gonna do it in 2020 but I think a good future in politics.


And Biden - I saw an old man that stuttered and couldn't remember his own text number for Joe. I actually cringed at some parts. But hey - if they want to put him up for the nominee I am all for it - Trump will wipe the floor with him. It will be over almost before it starts. I can't believe the dems can not see that - it's glaring to me. I watched it with one of my friends who can't stand Trump - at the end of the debate he said - "well,as of right now - you don't have anything to worry about. Trump will win." I already knew that,of course.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

So you agree with Yang that everyone should get $1,000 a month?

FWIW. Brian Kahn disagrees with you.

Andrew Yang Is the Most Dangerous Democratic Presidential Candidate

https://earther.gizmodo.com/andrew-y...dat-1836881500

Most disagree with you on Biden's performance -- far from great but much better than the 1st debate. It isn't easy playing defense all night long when idiots like DeBlasio are coming after you. Probably Harris will be hurt based on last night's performance. We shall see in the next few days whether or not Biden drops in the polls.

The clear winner last night was Booker.

As an aside, I watched the Stephen Colbert show from the last 2 nights and he did an imitation of Bernie Sanders that had me on the floor laughing. Perfect voice imitation and his arms flapping.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

why bash CNN? they set up the format for ratings. deal with it.

Tell that to MSNBC, I was simply passing along that one Left wing biased network was bashing another Left wing biased network.

And that both of those networks were discussing the major infighting in the debates(aka eating either own).

It wasn't my opinion, it was theirs.

And at least from the results of the first night the ratings thing didn't quite come CNN's way.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by eccielover

Tell that to MSNBC, I was simply passing along that one Left wing biased network was bashing another Left wing biased network.

It wasn't my opinion, it was theirs.

right, I understand that.

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

And Biden - I saw an old man that stuttered and couldn't remember his own text number for Joe. I actually cringed at some parts.

I think Trump will absolutely destroy Biden in a debate. the Dems need to understand that, and choose someone else. Biden will make Hillary look sharp by comparison

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

I like his idea. I see him as "thinking outside the box" and I like those kind of folks. I also understand poverty.
If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate. And desperate people will do desperate things. I think he gave an honest answer to climate change and the article that you showed said it was "defeatism" -- I think it refreshing. I can see his motivation and energy coming thru. He's not gonna do it in 2020 but I think a good future in politics.

And Biden - I saw an old man that stuttered and couldn't remember his own text number for Joe. I actually cringed at some parts. But hey - if they want to put him up for the nominee I am all for it - Trump will wipe the floor with him. It will be over almost before it starts. I can't believe the dems can not see that - it's glaring to me. I watched it with one of my friends who can't stand Trump - at the end of the debate he said - "well,as of right now - you don't have anything to worry about. Trump will win." I already knew that,of course.

I find your first statement "If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate." rather interesting. In case you haven't noticed, I have been chastised by at least one individual for supporting ANY government involvement at all in our private lives. Including federally funded programs such as SNAP and Medicaid. This $1000 a month would be exactly that.

What you can't see is the number of people in this country who have tired of Donald Trump and would vote for Tweedledee the Wonder Dummy over Trump. What you don't remember is how close the 2016 election really was -- a few thousand votes in 3 states brought Trump the victory. 3 states where his popularity has been decreasing and which voted solidly Democratic in 2018.

You think Trump will win in 2020 because the Democrats don't have an ideal candidate. Hillary Clinton was not an ideal candidate and she almost won. Trump, as usual, will try to turn this campaign into one of negativity. My hope is that whoever is eventually named the Democratic nominee does his/her best to keep the contest out of the gutter. That is where Trump does his best work.

[Jackie S]

"Give every body $1000 a month".

The ultimate "participation trophy".

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

I like his idea. I see him as "thinking outside the box" and I like those kind of folks. I also understand poverty.
If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate. And desperate people will do desperate things. I think he gave an honest answer to climate change and the article that you showed said it was "defeatism" -- I think it refreshing. I can see his motivation and energy coming thru. He's not gonna do it in 2020 but I think a good future in politics.


And Biden - I saw an old man that stuttered and couldn't remember his own text number for Joe. I actually cringed at some parts. But hey - if they want to put him up for the nominee I am all for it - Trump will wipe the floor with him. It will be over almost before it starts. I can't believe the dems can not see that - it's glaring to me. I watched it with one of my friends who can't stand Trump - at the end of the debate he said - "well,as of right now - you don't have anything to worry about. Trump will win." I already knew that,of course.

the dnc is wanting to exclude yang from further participation

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/dnc...echnicalities/

[bambino]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I find your first statement "If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate." rather interesting. In case you haven't noticed, I have been chastised by at least one individual for supporting ANY government involvement at all in our private lives. Including federally funded programs such as SNAP and Medicaid. This $1000 a month would be exactly that.

What you can't see is the number of people in this country who have tired of Donald Trump and would vote for Tweedledee the Wonder Dummy over Trump. What you don't remember is how close the 2016 election really was -- a few thousand votes in 3 states brought Trump the victory. 3 states where his popularity has been decreasing and which voted solidly Democratic in 2018.

You think Trump will win in 2020 because the Democrats don't have an ideal candidate. Hillary Clinton was not an ideal candidate and she almost won. Trump, as usual, will try to turn this campaign into one of negativity. My hope is that whoever is eventually named the Democratic nominee does his/her best to keep the contest out of the gutter. That is where Trump does his best work.

Negativity? I suppose you haven’t watched the last debates? Where’s the inspiration or charisma? Those aren’t my words, but Gloria Borger. She finally said something I agreed with. They were gratuitously bashing Biden and Obama’s record. Trump was an unproven political commodity in 2016. He is now. My guess this will help him greatly this time around. He has more money and a better organization. The Dems are hopelessly moving to extreme left. The old guard has no choice to get behind Biden. They’re just as reluctant about him as they were with Hillary. Good luck Speedy. Your adopted party has another conundrum on their hands.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

the dnc is wanting to exclude yang from further participation

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/dnc...echnicalities/

not really.. they want an alternative Poll.. Yang has 2 NBC-sponsored Polls of support, so he is double-dipping.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

not really.. they want an alternative Poll.. Yang has 2 NBC-sponsored Polls of support, so he is double-dipping.

not really what?

they are currently wanting to exclude him, or want to exclude him (either a present continuous verb or a stative verb would apply) and that state appears factual presently

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

Negativity? I suppose you haven’t watched the last debates? Where’s the inspiration or charisma? Those aren’t my words, but Gloria Borger. She finally said something I agreed with. They were gratuitously bashing Biden and Obama’s record. Trump was an unproven political commodity in 2016. He is now. My guess this will help him greatly this time around. He has more money and a better organization. The Dems are hopelessly moving to extreme left. The old guard has no choice to get behind Biden. They’re just as reluctant about him as they were with Hillary. Good luck Speedy. Your adopted party has another conundrum on their hands.

I respect your opinion. Whether or not Trump's time in office has helped or hurt him in the eyes of voters is up in the air at this point in time. As I said months ago, there are reasons for both Republicans and Democrats to be optimistic about the chances of their candidate for POTUS being elected in 2020. I still feel that way.

I consider myself to be Independent at this point in time. I will probably vote for Cornyn for Senator in 2020. Interesting but true -- in the last 2 weeks I have received letters from Melania Trump, Donald Trump, and the RNC asking for my support in the 2020 campaign. Not sure if these letters are being sent to everyone or just individuals they think support Trump.

[Kristine]

You guys need to be on the Greg Gutfeld show!! Haha

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

not really what?

they are currently wanting to exclude him, or want to exclude him (either a present continuous verb or a stative verb would apply) and that state appears factual presently

not really WANTING to exclude him. you know that if you read the article. they don't want him using 2 polls that are basically one poll, to use in qualifying.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

not really WANTING to exclude him. you know that if you read the article. they don't want him using 2 polls that are basically one poll, to use in qualifying.

somehow the dnc as an organization, adopts rules, this adoption is done by duly empowered personages

somehow the rules are enforced, again by duly empowered personages

those personages are wanting or want to exclude yang

to call the rules a they, and say the rules want to exclude yang is a bit too anthropomorphic, but in my previous posts the they could be just that, but I'd rather consider the want resides with the rule enforcers, who represent the dnc

I don't deny his polls don't adhere to the rules, nothing I said was at odds with that

but they (the dnc or the rule enforcers, take your pick), at present, want to exclude yang, what don't you get?

[Austin Ellen]

Ok well, I didn't chastise you. It sounds like you want someone to chastise me just because I said I liked Andrew's
idea. It amazes me when some says something positive from one side to the other that such negativity comes back.

Everybody knows in America we have to have safety nets. We just disagree on how they can be supported. I support community based programs but I am realistic too and understand that's not enough. It's just a fact. And I'm interested in folks who have ideas on this. Just because it's a government program doesn't mean that it should be discounted. Jeeze.



Hmmmmmm, well this is how I think it's going to go. The Dem party is going too far left. The Dem moderates are not going for it. They won't vote for Trump --- they will just stay home. Which would be a win for Trump.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I find your first statement "If you have no resources left and no money - you become hopeless and desperate." rather interesting. In case you haven't noticed, I have been chastised by at least one individual for supporting ANY government involvement at all in our private lives. Including federally funded programs such as SNAP and Medicaid. This $1000 a month would be exactly that.

What you can't see is the number of people in this country who have tired of Donald Trump and would vote for Tweedledee the Wonder Dummy over Trump. What you don't remember is how close the 2016 election really was -- a few thousand votes in 3 states brought Trump the victory. 3 states where his popularity has been decreasing and which voted solidly Democratic in 2018.

You think Trump will win in 2020 because the Democrats don't have an ideal candidate. Hillary Clinton was not an ideal candidate and she almost won. Trump, as usual, will try to turn this campaign into one of negativity. My hope is that whoever is eventually named the Democratic nominee does his/her best to keep the contest out of the gutter. That is where Trump does his best work.