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Old 03-27-2011, 03:11 PM   #46
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LOL,

Now PJ, you know I didn't post the link out of laziness.

Damn, please don't confuse me with WTF.

I gave you the link in case you wanted to verify my facts.

Come on I expect better out of a Redskin than that.
You just seem to have this problem reading what I write.

a) You and I dont have a disagreement over whether the organization you referenced was started in 1993.

b) Our disagreement is over the relevance of that TEA party organization to the broader one. You seem to think they are highly important -- me not so much. Unless I've missed it, you haven't posted anything (with or without supporting links) relevant to that point.

c) The whole discussion over links was with Bebe after she took issue with my comment that I rarely read links.

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Well I guess that means it doesn't matter what source link you put on here, (even if it does contain facts) your not going to change his mind...lol
d) I'll concede that Cincinnati Magazine is a small cut above the crap that WTF usually links.
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #47
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Me thinks you got your undies in a bunch after PJ told you that you were wrong
There seems to be an epidemic of that recently.
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:18 PM   #48
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Who says you have to smoke it?
She didn't smoke that cigar just like Clinton didn't have sex with that woman.
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Old 03-27-2011, 04:03 PM   #49
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Well, we can argue all day about what "....it raised it's rather ugly head in the 2008 elections..." and "...I am pretty sure they gained notoriety in the Spring and Summer of 2008, not in the fall and winter" both mean, but i think my interpretation was entirely reasonable.
Perhaps reasonable, but erroneous. As the person who wrote it, i think i have the handle on what was meant by it?

So moving on and getting back to the real question i wanted to discuss:

Is the Tea Party as it as evolved today, relevant? Will they have impact on elections and policy? Will they become something more nefarious if the manipulation I think is going on, continues to occur? Remember those guys in brown shirts in Italy and Gemany were often laughed at early on.

True evil is insidious and often seems innocuous, but that helps it spread.

I am not calling Tea Baggers Nazi's, I am just pointing out that as this movement evolved from homespun politics and clever and amusing protests into something more rude and ugly (hence the Abbie Huffman allusion) there could be repercussions down the road. They seem basically harmless, but will they remain that way?

We have already seen some violence and chaos at their more recent protests. I think the author I quoted was making an interesting point about the interesting irony that they claim to be about wholesome values, but aren't afraid to use some pretty heinous tactics to get that Norman Rockwell existence.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:38 PM   #51
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I rarely read articles linked here. I've laughed at WTF's nutty links for years -- why do you think yours would be better received? If you can't make a point convincingly in your own well chosen words, why would I waste my time reading some long article -- particularly one from such an authoritative source as the Cincinnati Magazine.

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That is all anyone does here.

Do you actually believe that I believe that you haven't just read and regurgitated information. That you are some information Mecca savant where info only you know just gravitates for you to garners?

We all like to disperse information differently, I prefer one way , you prefer another. Not sure that makes either one better than the other but it does explain why we often ignore what the other has posted. haha
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I think the author I quoted was making an interesting point about the interesting irony that they claim to be about wholesome values, but aren't afraid to use some pretty heinous tactics to get that Norman Rockwell existence.

I think history is splattered with this type of DNA. I have no problem with the Ron Paul faction....it is the other larger part that will be co-opted by the GOP that will be a force to reckoned with. The problem with the Tea Party is that they think they are rightious....and you know how bloody the rightious can be. They do no understand that they really only want to selective cut government...that is just another political movement. If they ever understood that then they might not be so rightious.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:00 PM   #53
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Do you actually believe that I believe that you haven't just read and regurgitated information.
There is a difference between regurgitating and digesting information. If nothing else, they come out in different directions.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:15 PM   #54
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I think history is splattered with this type of DNA. I have no problem with the Ron Paul faction....it is the other larger part that will be co-opted by the GOP that will be a force to reckoned with. The problem with the Tea Party is that they think they are rightious....and you know how bloody the rightious can be. They do no understand that they really only want to selective cut government...that is just another political movement. If they ever understood that then they might not be so rightious.
Very good point. Sadly, they will probably misquote Jefferson about the refreshing of the liberty tree as they wash their bloody hands in their Kohler Designer Sinks.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:17 PM   #55
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There seems to be an epidemic of that recently.
Not from me....at least not since you made a good faith effort to warm my heart's cockles.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:27 PM   #56
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Not from me....at least not since you made a good faith effort to warm my heart's cockles.
Now just a damn minute! I don't swing that way.
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:04 PM   #57
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:30 PM   #58
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Hey that line is tm by me, and I only gave Ansley permission to use it lol
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