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Old 01-22-2020, 09:51 PM   #46
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Maybe you failed to notice how Pelosi, gNadless and Schitty completely failed to put a statute to that bullshit charge in the impeachment document.

Oh, and there are four government investigations that have concluded you're a liar every time you claim the Republicans colluded with Russia, and that lying shit Schitty lied when he made that charge in his opening statements as did gNadless when he appeared on MSDNC Sunday. Lie, lie, lie. it's all your ilk does.


Ranky making a comeback. Welcome back psycho.
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Old 01-22-2020, 10:10 PM   #47
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Ranky making a comeback. Welcome back psycho.
You're an Adam Schitty minion. Lies are lies, and you're mentor and puppet master is the biggest liar in Congress. The House Intel Committee, the Senate Intel Committee, Mueller and Horowitz have demonstrably concluded that the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!" bullshit is a LIE!
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You're an Adam Schitty minion. Lies are lies, and you're mentor and puppet master is the biggest liar in Congress. The House Intel Committee, the Senate Intel Committee, Mueller and Horowitz have demonstrably concluded that the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!" bullshit is a LIE!
The CIA, FBI, NSA and Director of National Intelligence, agree that Russia engaged in an influence campaign directed at the election, the Senate and House intelligence committees also agree and Muller indicted Russians.

But Putin whispers in the right ear and all of a sudden it was Ukraine who meddled in 2016 and “Crowdstrike “ is born. That’s the fucking lie!

Viva la Shiffty Schiff
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:18 PM   #49
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The CIA, FBI, NSA and Director of National Intelligence, agree that Russia engaged in an influence campaign directed at the election, the Senate and House intelligence committees also agree and Muller indicted Russians.

But Putin whispers in the right ear and all of a sudden it was Ukraine who meddled in 2016 and “Crowdstrike “ is born. That’s the fucking lie!

Viva la Shiffty Schiff

Ukrainians DID meddle in the 2016 election, and you're a Moscow minion every time you repeat Putin's propaganda -- RE: "collusion" -- fed to you by Team hildebeest.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:31 PM   #50
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Ukrainians DID meddle in the 2016 election, and you're a Moscow minion every time you repeat Putin's propaganda -- RE: "collusion" -- fed to you by Team hildebeest.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:38 PM   #51
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Whatever the Executive's foreign policy stance, the way he held up the money is against the law. Without informing Congress. Numerous agencies warned him of it. Drug deal, anyone?

But, like usual, he does it without thinking. He does it, then asks someone to justify it. He does not listen to his advisors. That's why Rex Tillerson called him a moron. Precisely, I might add.
OK, what crime did he commit and what's the Federal statute?
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:12 AM   #52
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Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

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The CIA, FBI, NSA and Director of National Intelligence, agree that Russia engaged in an influence campaign directed at the election,......
... on Obaminable's Watch!
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OK, what crime did he commit and what's the Federal statute?
NONE! That is if you are speaking of President Trump.

(I wonder how many of these fools making bigger fools of themselves on National TV have actually read the Ukrainian funding statute AUTHORIZING the President to provide military assistance to UKraine!...since they didn't read the Affordable Care Act!)
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Old 01-23-2020, 04:41 AM   #55
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You didn't fix anything stupid. Why don't you, and HedonistForever, get it through your thick skull. It was an international effort. Damn!

IMF Staff Concludes Mission to Ukraine


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An International Monetary Fund (IMF) mission, led by Ron van Rooden, visited Kyiv during September 12-26, to hold discussions for the 2019 Article IV consultation with Ukraine. The mission also initiated discussions on a new program that could be supported under the IMF’s Extended Fund Facility (EFF). At the conclusion of the visit, Mr. van Rooden made the following statement:

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Lifting the economy to a higher growth path also requires accelerating structural reforms. This includes most of all firmly establishing the rule of law—including through judicial reform—and decisively tackling corruption. Equally important are enhancing competition and opening up markets—particularly in the energy and agricultural sectors—and reducing the role of the state and oligarchs in the economy. Wage growth needs to be consistent with improvements in labor productivity, to safeguard competitiveness. With sustained reform implementation, Ukraine can become more closely integrated with the European economy and its supply chains, taking greater advantage also of the Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement with the EU.

Ukraine passes corruption law in bid for more IMF aid


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Time is ticking for Ukraine as it counts down to presidential and parliamentary elections next year while having to pay back debt worth $15 billion by the end of 2020.

The economy is still recovering from a steep recession following Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014 and separatist fighting in the industrial Donbass region. The IMF says corruption knocks two percentage points off Ukraine's growth every year.

Dragging its feet on reforms, Ukraine has not received aid from the IMF since April 2017. Not securing more aid tranches would blow a $4 billion hole in the budget, according to Danylyuk.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance



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Bowing to pressure from international donors, the Ukrainian Parliament voted on Tuesday to remove a prosecutor general who had clung to power for months despite visible signs of corruption.

But in a be-careful-what-you-wish-for moment, veteran observers of Ukrainian politics said that the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, had played an important role in balancing competing political interests, helping maintain stability during a treacherous era in the divided country’s history.

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”

In Ukraine, Joe Biden Pushes a Message of Democracy


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The gross domestic product per capita, a broad measure of Ukrainians’ well-being, will be just $1,600 per person this year, down from $3,900 in 2013. That was the year before the new government took power partly on the promise of bringing living standards closer to those in Europe.

Over all, Ukraine’s gross domestic product is projected to shrink by 15 percent this year after falling 6.8 percent the year before, according to Standard & Poor’s, the ratings agency. Much of the drop is attributable to a collapse in the value of the national currency, the hryvnia, and to uncertainty created by the conflict with Russia.

And Ukraine remains one of the world’s most indebted countries, trailing only the Seychelles, according to one estimate.













Your crazy is showing, Ranky.
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Ukrainians DID meddle in the 2016 election, and you're a Moscow minion every time you repeat Putin's propaganda -- RE: "collusion" -- fed to you by Team hildebeest.
The difference in the meddling is the difference between Lightening and a Lightening Bug.

Ukraine...an OpEd piece and Russians getting nuts like you to repeat lies on Facebook.

Btw...how is Flynn doing with Judge Sullivan...the same Judge you and LL said would drop his charges?
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And still no crimes ??
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Fascist DPT's are desperate - for anything to show some "crime"

The real crime occurred in nov 2016 - Trump won.

Fascist DPST's are willing to destroy the representative democracy for a Fascist state - as long as they run it as nomenklatura!
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:09 PM   #59
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Obama isn’t standing trial and never will be, So why would I ....seems like more whataboutism to me.

A word people use when they don't want to address hypocrisy. The fact that Obama did exactly what Trump is said to have done, broke the law according to the GAO, abused the power of his office when he told Congress I'll either do it with you or without you because I have a pen and a phone, refused subpoena's from Congress until a court ordered him to which Democrats now call obstructing Congress.


The reason to comment on acts of previous Presidents that were not impeached is to point out political partisanship and the danger it poses to our democracy when political parties use partisanship in deciding which President gets impeached and which ones don't.


The reason you should comment on why Obama, doing exactly what Trump is accused of doing, didn't get impeached but Trump did is to point out that Trump did something more "worthy" of impeachment but you can't and that is why you won't.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:16 PM   #60
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A simple question for 9500. Who decides if someone has broken a law? A government agency part of the Executive branch? Or a court of law? Has a court of law determined that Trump broke a law?Simple enough question. Yes or no or do you believe we can do away with courts and let government agencies having nothing to do with the Judiciary decide who has broken the law and who hasn't?


And unless I have over looked it, I don't see any comment by you about the fact that Obama and his administration were accused by the GAO of breaking the law 7 times. What's the problem? Surely you aren't afraid of addressing a simple question?
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