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Don T. Lukbak · 08-30-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

Is Bush always going to be the excuse given by the Obaminable apologists

Yes. Why not, when they can't argue logically because if they did that they would be forced to admit Obama is a disaster and a disgrace.

Guest040616 · 08-30-2010, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Is Bush always going to be the excuse given by the Obaminable apologists

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Originally Posted by Don T. Lukbak

Yes. Why not, when they can't argue logically because if they did that they would be forced to admit Obama is a disaster and a disgrace.

This might qualify as a couple of the most humorous and ironic political posts of the year, if not the past decade. First LL makes the "Obaminable apologists" comparison followed closely by a somewhat feeble attempt at a 'high five' by DTL.

I find it ironic that LL spent the better part of 8 years in the P's Houston political forums blaming the repeated failures of the George W. Bush Administration on Bill Clinton. A mere 1 1/2 years into the Obama Administration LL has apparently forgotten that George W. Bush occupied the White House between 2001-2009. Who can blame him for trying to forget the guy he had a "man crush" on for 8 very loooooonnnnnnng years? LL has finally joined the rest of the civilized world in attempting to erase the disasterous and disgraceful George W. Bush Administration from his memory bank. Unfortunately the disasterous effects of "the most unpopular (and incompetent) President in modern history," will be felt for decades to come! There you have it, Dubya's well deserved legacy!

Yet LL has repeatedly made a mysterious (but humorous) claim that he is actually a Democrat! I still ROTFLMAO at that memorable bit of horse 'caca'!

It seems that LL, the "P's" original and most ardent George W. Bush "apologist," has conveniently forgotten his very own actions of a few short years ago. This appears to be an open and shut case of "selective memory!" Strike that, make it "extremely selective memory!" Way to go LL! You are now guilty of criticizing others for doing the very same thing you did for the entire 8 disasterous years of the George W. Bush Administration!

That's rich, really rich! Keep it up LL, the ironic humor is greatly appreciated in these parts!!!!!

LexusLover · 08-31-2010, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I find it ironic that LL spent the better part of 8 years in the P's Houston political forums blaming the repeated failures of the George W. Bush Administration on Bill Clinton.

That's rich, really rich! Keep it up LL, the ironic humor is greatly appreciated in these parts!!!!!

Sounds like "Austiinism" to me .... if that is your reference to "these parts"!

BT you are flat wrong, but nice try.

You, apparently, are attempting to justify the effort on the part of your candidate in 2008, and his flock (which is rapidly dwindling I might add), to Blame his incompetence and ill conceived policies on Bush .... I do not recall Bush blaming Clinton and the Democrats, and if he did publicly, it certainly was not on a weekly basis, as "we" have experienced in the last 1 1/2 years.

My point was and is: Bush initiated the "surge" in Iraq, and Obaminable opposed it. It worked, so Obaminable and company, which apparently now includes you, BT, want to take credit for "the win." Bush reached the status of force agreement with the Iraqi leadership regarding the draw down of U.S. presence in Iraq, and Obaminable and company, which apparently now includes you, BT, want to take credit for .... "bringing the troops home"!

When the sour-grapers, like yourself, were angry that Bush won in 2000 there was an effort to attempt to blame Bush for the economic downturn in the spring of 2001, when subsequently practically every legitimate economist (none of whom were posting on the board to which you elude) concluded that the downturn started in the Summer of 2000, if not earlier.

I didn't blame Clinton for the economic downturn, I blamed him for lying about it, which is not what Bush did in 2008. He bellied up to the problem, now didn't he, and pushed to get "TARP" passed by the DEMOCRATS in Congress with the consultation of Obaminable. At the same time the Bush administration had been warning about the credit problems in the housing industry, but the "upside down" housing loans were not benefitting the "wealthiest" of U.S. citizens, but folks that the Dems would rely on in 2008, so they did NOTHING about it, but praised how wonderful it was that all those folks could own homes now (then).

Then Obaminable had to come back with the help of the California fruit-loops to shore up the sagging housing business from all of those bad loans by offering more tax dollars (yet unearned I might add) to encourage folks to buy the homes being lost by the funny money loans the Democrats thought were wonderful and did not want to stop, even though the Bush administration was warning them about it.

Your guy Obaminable now wants to blame the banks and CEO's for the problem .... what do they say the problem is? Poor people, who cannot pay back the loans, cannot borrow money, because the banks will not loan them the money.

Is that Bush's fault? That the banks will not loan money to people who cannot pay it back?

The auto makers need work to keep the union salaries flowing and the pension funds replenished, so the poor people with "clunkers" can turn them in for a tax dollar check (borrowed also) as a down payment on a car they cannot afford to buy with a government backed loan that is underwritten by a "stimulus" pop financed by the tax payers decades from now. Is that Bush's fault?

Are you still "hurt" that McCain didn't make it in 2000? It appears as such.

Get over it. McCain is still standing, and standing taller as each day passes.

You might want to have water from the Greater Houston area shipped to you, since drinking what Austin provides can distort your memory.

I am a Democrat. And when the National Party starts putting up candidates with balls, who believe in the United States of America and the generosity and integrity of her citizens, and represent the PEOPLE who are citizens of the United States of America, then I will vote for them. But as long as you and the rest of the flaming liberals keep sending up wimps like Gore, Kerry, and Obama, not to mention sexual predators like Clinton, I will vote for a Republican candidate, so long as that candidate is not a wimp or sexual predator.

The problem with this wimp, your man Obaminable, is that he is pushing to piss off as much money as he can to get re-elected in 2012 and he could give a rat's ass who pays the bill. He ain't!

Do you think it is "coincidence" that the majority of the "benefits" from the "health care reform" relabeled "health insurance reform" and mislabeled as "Obamacare" and not called "___________" are not going to kick in until 2014 .... AFTER OBAMINABLE gets re-elected?

And it appears that there are a growing number of U.S. voters that agree! The Grand Experiment has fallen flat right out of the gate.

I will repeat: Obaminable is full of shit and hot air. The said part is that you, BT, who I consider intelligent, bought his bullshit, hook, line, and SINKER, but you obviously had a lot of good company!

Guest040616 · 08-31-2010, 08:03 AM

LL,

You seem to have missed the simple point raised in my previous post. Your rant about the Austin water, among other things, had absolutely nothing to do with you having been regularly guilty of doing the same thing you are now criticizing the Obama supporters of doing! That being to place blame on the previous administration for the current administrations policies!

Is your memory finally slipping away from you? Or is it that you need to learn to stay focused and stick to the point? (I am sure that you might recall that "staying focused" happens to be one of my favorite phrases!) HeHeHe

You seem to be in denial that for the better part of eight years in the ASPD political forums that you blamed most, if not all, of the more controversial events that occurred between 2001 and 2009 on the Clinton Administration? As I recall, you blamed 9/11 and its aftermath, the War in Iraq, the levee system in New Orleans and the eventual economic meltdown (to name just a few) on Bill Clinton. In the event you failed to notice, the 4 events that I just listed pretty much dominated the news cycle during the entire 8 years of GW's time in office. And yes, you blamed Clinton for each and every one!

About the only thing you did not blame Clinton for was the prosperity this nation enjoyed during the final 4 years of the Clinton Administration. Unfortunately, you gave Clinton no credit whatsoever for our economic prosperity during that era. Instead you attempted to make the claim that our prosperity had everything to do with the policies left behind by Ronald Reagan and nothing whatsoever to do with Clinton's economic policies! Damn, it is difficult to follow your bouncing ball!

During the entire 8 year period of the Bush Administration, I was left to wonder if Clinton was always going to be the excuse given by the George W. Bush apologists! (Does that play on words sound even remotely familiar? Or have you already forgotten your very own words,changed ever so slightly, written just yesterday?)

Don T. Lukbak · 08-31-2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Is Bush always going to be the excuse given by the Obaminable apologists

This might qualify as a couple of the most humorous and ironic political posts of the year, if not the past decade. First LL makes the "Obaminable apologists" comparison followed closely by a somewhat feeble attempt at a 'high five' by DTL.

I find it ironic that LL spent the better part of 8 years in the P's Houston political forums blaming the repeated failures of the George W. Bush Administration on Bill Clinton. A mere 1 1/2 years into the Obama Administration LL has apparently forgotten that George W. Bush occupied the White House between 2001-2009. Who can blame him for trying to forget the guy he had a "man crush" on for 8 very loooooonnnnnnng years? LL has finally joined the rest of the civilized world in attempting to erase the disasterous and disgraceful George W. Bush Administration from his memory bank. Unfortunately the disasterous effects of "the most unpopular (and incompetent) President in modern history," will be felt for decades to come! There you have it, Dubya's well deserved legacy!

Yet LL has repeatedly made a mysterious (but humorous) claim that he is actually a Democrat! I still ROTFLMAO at that memorable bit of horse 'caca'!

It seems that LL, the "P's" original and most ardent George W. Bush "apologist," has conveniently forgotten his very own actions of a few short years ago. This appears to be an open and shut case of "selective memory!" Strike that, make it "extremely selective memory!" Way to go LL! You are now guilty of criticizing others for doing the very same thing you did for the entire 8 disasterous years of the George W. Bush Administration!

That's rich, really rich! Keep it up LL, the ironic humor is greatly appreciated in these parts!!!!!

Thanks for confirming my prediction that the obamanini will never stop blaming Bush for every scintilla of destruction wrought by Obama, his policies, or his thugs. Obama will never man up and accept ownership of his failures, so why should his big-government devotees disagree with their Caesar of caesars?

The American nation is even more divided now than it was in Jan 2009, but the fault line is morphing: it's not so much Dims vs Reps, anyway always a false choice, now it's political class/government dependents vs the productive class. I think we're paying less attention to guessing to which political party any random person adheres and wondering instead whether he supports the preservation of liberty, or opposes it. Unquestionably Obama and his supporters are in the pro-government, anti-liberty camp.

I despise any motherfucker who is the enemy of liberty.

ibechill · 08-31-2010, 08:57 AM

Bigtex, good stuff.
They do have selective political amnesia.

LexusLover · 08-31-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

LL,

Is your memory finally slipping away from you?

... for the better part of eight years in the ASPD political forums that you blamed most, if not all, of the more controversial events that occurred between 2001 and 2009 on the Clinton Administration? As I recall, ....

BT, undoubtedly there are folks reading your posts who were not "reading" posts to which you refer ... and are therefore unaware that for "better part of 8 years" .... you could not see my posts, unless someone snipped out portions in quoted material ....

So how would you know what I was posting? .... You don't! .... So, your "recollection" is flawed ....

What I did repeatedly state, which was consistent with Congressional records, statutes, indictments, court cases quoted, government reports, and similar factual information that was for the most part ignored by those, like you, who felt "cheated" by the "chads" in Florida ..... is that those persons who held Bush responsible for CAUSING 911, the recession, the Iraq War, blah, blah, blah, IGNORED the FACTS that most, if not all of those "conditions" or "events" began either prior to the Clinton Administration or during the Clinton Administration, as opposed to having "STARTED" during the Bush Administration.

Example: the string of terrorist attacks by Bin Laden's gang and "want-a-bes" beginning in 1993 with the first attempt on the WTC .. all the way down to the Cole.Since you obviously are the one with amnesia?

"February 12, 1997
President William J. Clinton
The White House
Washington, DC
Dear Mr. President,
We are pleased to present you with the report of the White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security. You established this Commission by issuing Executive Order 13015 on August 22, 1996 with a charter to study matters involving aviation safety and security, including air traffic control and to develop a strategy to improve aviation safety and security, both domestically and internationally.

During the past six months, we have conducted an intensive inquiry into civil aviation safety, security and air traffic control modernization. Commission and staff have gathered information from a broad range of aviation specialists, Federal Agencies, consumer groups, and industry leaders.
After many months of deliberations we have agreed on a set of recommendations which we believe will serve to enhance and ensure the continued safety and security of our air transportation system.
We are privileged to submit these recommendations herewith.
Sincerely,
Vice President Al Gore, Chairman

... may I repeat Mr. Gore:

"to enhance and ensure the continued safety and security of our air transportation system."

... as a debate regarding Ground Zero and the Mosque rages?

As I said previously, unlike Bush, Obaminable refuses to take responsibility for his inability to improve the situation and whines about Bush causing all this problem..... while he eats ice cream and shrimp between golf games on the vacations he is taking.

I, unlike you, apparently, acknowledge that the current recesssion began in 2007, and Bush faced with a Democratically controlled Congress sought to address issues his administration foresaw as being problematic, as opposed to trying to blame someone else.

Did "Bush" cause the recession in 2007? If so, where's the proof?

LexusLover · 08-31-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

LL,

.... you are now criticizing the Obama supporters of doing! That being to place blame on the previous administration for the current administrations policies!

I am criticizing Obaminable for whining about how tough Bush has made his job .... and the choir of 17%ers, die hard Obaminable apologists ... are singing along with him. If the skinny little wimp can't take the heat ....

It's not "Bush" who has decided to save the burning building by starting more fires. And in all fairness I do understand the "concept" of priming a pump, but dumping copious amounts of water on the pump is not "priming"! Let's get real, this "handout" stimulus bullshit is about compensating groups for their support and redistributing wealth. Plain and simple.

The Austin water is too laced with salamander poop for clear thinking!

I challenge you to find any post in which I "blamed" Clinton for Bush's policies.

shadowdrive · 08-31-2010, 11:58 AM

Personally I blame both Bush and Obama. Bush spent like a drunken sailor, and Obama is spending like a ship FULL of drunken sailors on shore-leave.

I know Republicans are looking to make a BIG comeback this coming November, but they better freaking learn what this whole movement is about or the public will just get angrier and angrier. Congress and the next President need to act like they are a household who's budget just got reduced to a small fraction of what it was, and CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT spending to the BONE. Then REDUCE taxes, and let the economy come flying out of this hell hole...

All of that and we still only scratch the surface: a Federal Government that DWARFS the size of State governments (which is opposite of how our government was DESIGNED to work), special interests/lobbyists, overly powerful Unions, insanely complicated tax laws, truly securing our borders and opening up better paths to LEGAL immigration...

This all hasn't come about from even just the past two or three elections, this crap has been brewing and growing for a LONG time to get where it is now... But the party is over and we had better find us some representatives who can see that.

-sd

Don T. Lukbak · 08-31-2010, 12:14 PM

Most Obama critics aren't all that fond of the G.W. Bush policies either; I could gnaw on FORMER President Bush all day long and still not nearly cover every way he pissed me off. It's hilarious to me how the government cheese crowd almost without fail respond to my latest criticism of Obama and his policies by a kneejerk attack on some person usually referred to as "your boy, Bush". Hey, Retards! He ain't "my boy". And while they're mau mauing Bush they never seem to remember to say anything good about Obama. Oh, except for the fact he's not Bush. That's 100% of their argument. Hell, I really wish the government cheese gang could manage to find one positive Obama accomplishment most of us can agree on (hint: socialized medicine and government takeover of corporations purely and simply as a sop to unions do not qualify).

The Republican swells are scared shitless of the Tea Party movement. Good. The Tea Party isn't about joining the dipshit Republican Party; it's about a hostile takeover of the motherfucker and returning power to the polis.

ibechill · 08-31-2010, 12:33 PM

Keep drinking that Kool Aid Party tea.

Guest030915 · 08-31-2010, 12:57 PM

I'll admit that I didn't read a lot of the garbage posted on here. People have the right to believe/think/vote the way they want to. So, it's not for me to try and convince someone of my political ideology.

The main purpose of this board is so men AND women can link up, do what adults do, and maybe even have a little fun banter. It's supposed to take you away from all the bullshit that life throws at us. So, y'all can sit here and debate politics if you want. More pussy for me and the rest of the guys who actually come here to find women and not debate politics. Carry on...that is all.

LexusLover · 08-31-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IceCreamMan

So, y'all can sit here and debate politics if you want. More pussy for me and the rest of the guys who actually come here to find women and not debate politics. Carry on...that is all.

With all due respect .....

... I think fucking for a couple of hours a day is just about enough for me, so that leaves 22 hours for eating, shitting, and talking politics..... with some light sleep to recuperate.

Besides you are welcome to the "pussy" I miss by these "debates" on politics. My gain is your loss.

Carry on.

LexusLover · 08-31-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ibechill

They do have selective political amnesia.

The wonderful thing about "selective amnesia" ... irrespective of the topic ..

... is that it is temporary and controllable. BT, on the other hand ... has a more permanent condition that is out of control. But perhaps his reliance on the Houston Chronicle Op-Ed pages for his "information" has mushed his brain .... which is now spiced with Austin's water.

DarthMaul · 08-31-2010, 11:11 PM

The (2) things I don't discuss in public...POLITICS and RELIGION. These two arguments only lead to more arguments.

Now pussy...that's another thing altogether!