More Classified Documents Found In Biden’s Garage.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

From the wiki link in post #25.

Italians share a common culture, history, ancestry and language. Their predecessors vary regionally, but include the ancient Greeks in Magna Graecia, the Etruscans in northern Italy and,.....

Clearly it says Italians not Sicilians predecessors include ancient Greeks.

Did you put reading comprehension on pass/fail like your hero Bush43?

You know as much about the ancestry of Italians as you do M-RNA. Which means you know nothing.

Sorry Wiki links is wrong. Becareful what you read on the Internet.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

its those chinese police outposts that are now stirring shitstorm.

that investigation on it was shut down?

https://justthenews.com/accountabili...nd-fbi-program

University that housed Biden center pressed to end FBI China spy probe after big Beijing donations


University of Pennsylvania, which hosted the Penn Biden Center where classified documents were found in November, received $47.7 million from China in the three years when Biden was affiliated with it.

The University of Pennsylvania, the Ivy League institution which collected tens of millions of dollars from China while paying Joe Biden and hosting his foreign policy think tank, successfully pressured the Biden Justice Department to end an FBI counterespionage program targeting Beijing's increasing influence within U.S. academia.


Attorney General Merrick Garland shut down the FBI's so-called China initiative in February 2022 shortly after more than 160 members of the University of Pennsylvania faculty signed and made public an open letter demanding the program be shuttered, on the grounds that it amounted to racial profiling. The faculty letter was part of a

larger university battle

against the program.





"We acknowledge the importance to the United States of protecting both intellectual property and information that is essential to our national and economic security," read the letter made public on Feb. 9. "We understand that concerns about Chinese government sanctioned activities including intellectual property theft and economic espionage are important to address.
"We believe, however, that the China Initiative has deviated significantly from its claimed mission: it is harming the United States' research and technology competitiveness and it is fueling biases that, in turn, raise concerns about racial profiling."
A handful of left-leaning universities, including Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard, had also previously appealed to the DOJ to close down the program.



Two weeks after the letter was sent, Garland announced the termination of the program, sending shockwaves through federal law enforcement.
The DOJ's own website still includes, to this day, a lengthy recitation of criminal cases the 4-year-old program had brought against members of academia who were working with China — either on espionage charges or failure to disclose foreign monies, as is required by law.
Just a month prior to the Garland decision, FBI Director Christopher Wray traveled to the Reagan presidential library to give a speech pleading for the government to devote more attention and resources to combating China's devastating influence inside the United States. He specifically cited cases where Beijing had used university academics to do its bidding. The FBI boss claimed China's espionage has become "more brazen, [and] more damaging."
"China's government has the global reach and presence of a great nation, but it refuses to act the part and too often uses its capabilities to steal and threaten, rather than to cooperate and build," he argued. "That theft, those threats, are happening right here in America, literally every day."



Just the News reached out to both the Justice Department, to confirm whether Penn ever officially lobbied the DOJ directly, and also to the university itself. Neither institution responded.
Penn has long ties to both the Biden family and China. Its former president, Amy Gutmann, for instance, was named by the president in 2021 to be his ambassador to Germany.
During her Senate confirmation, Gutmann acknowledged the university took money from Chinese interests but insisted it did not affect the school's values and that the university even rejected creating a Confucius Institute on campus funded by entities tied to the Chinese government.
"What I do know, and what I make sure of, is that no gifts, no contracts, to the University of Pennsylvania are allowed to threaten academic freedom, are allowed to threaten national security," she testified. "We do no classified research."


Penn is in the limelight now after the revelation Monday that classified documents from Biden's vice presidency — including top secret items and intelligence on Ukraine and Iran — were found last November in Biden's old office at the Penn Biden Center think tank, where he worked in D.C. from 2017 to 2019.
The White House claimed the memos were found by lawyers cleaning out Biden's old office. Multiple news organizations reported Wednesday that more classified documents were found at a second location used by Biden.
The university has said it did not solicit any donations specifically to fund the Penn Biden Center, funding it out of its operating budget while also paying Biden a handsome sum to be an honorary professor who did not teach classes but made occasional appearance or lectures.
Biden's tax returns reviewed by Just the News show Penn paid the future president $911,644 between spring 2017 and spring 2019, when he stepped aside to run for president.


Reports compiled by the conservative watchdog group National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC) from disclosures to the Department of Education showed that Penn collected more than $67.6 million in donations and contracts from China between 2013 and 2019. The vast majority of that money, $47.7 million, flowed during the three years Biden was employed by the university, the records show.
The Chinese money poured in most rapidly in the four months after Biden opened the center in February 2018, a period during which nearly $20 million came through, including a $14.5 million anonymous gift on May 28, 2018, according to a complaint the NLPC filed with the Department of Education in May of 2020. The complaint requested that the department investigate all the Chinese gifts to Penn and the Penn Biden Center, alleging that the gifts listed as anonymous were "in clear violation" of the Higher Education Act's requirement that "all gifts or contracts exceeding $250,000 must disclose the foreign ownership and control of the gift or contract."
"The University of Pennsylvania and the Penn Biden Center are particularly vulnerable to China government influences due to the large amounts of China donations and contracts," the NLPC alleged in the complaint.
The NLPC filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on Tuesday seeking "all documents, including but not limited to emails, text messages, communications, memoranda, and photographs, that refer to the discovery and handling of classified and other presidential records that were in a closet at the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement."



"They do get money from China, either directly or indirectly," NLPC counsel Paul Kamenar told Just the News. "With Hunter [Biden], it was directly from an energy company. It's a fact that UPenn has received some $60 million in Chinese donations, $22 million of which is anonymous. The actual donors should be disclosed. Not simply that it's 'from China.'"
The watchdog group filed a complaint with the DOJ in October 2020 urging that the center be investigated for failure to register as "foreign agents" under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. The university has denied any wrongdoing.
Penn has been very "opaque" when confronted with these discrepancies, and "it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to realize the money from China to the school is not going to Pennsylvania's music department," said Kamenar. "It's going to UPenn's international program, of which the Biden Center is one of the top beneficiaries."
Kamenar also raised several other questions and concerns, including how the classified documents in question ended up in the Biden Center in the first place when it didn't even open its doors until two years after the former vice president had left office.



Noting that the White House is claiming Biden was vacating the Penn-Biden Center office space, Kamenar said he spoke with the leasing manager of the building, who said the center still had 4-5 years left on its lease.
"Why would you have high powered attorneys be your movers?" Kamenar asked. "That's a high price to pay for a mover. What were the lawyers doing there in the first place? I'd like to know their names."
Penn boasts numerous programs in China, including "currently [having] over 20 international partnerships with Chinese institutions, including Shanghai Jiao Tong University, with whom Penn first entered into an agreement in 1980," according to its website. "Faculty from all of Penn's 12 schools have reported over 350 research projects and instructional activities in China, including many of the projects presented at the annual Penn China Research Symposium."
Several security experts interviewed by Just the News said the loss of the China Initiative after pressure from schools like Penn was a serious blow to the FBI's ability to fight Chinese espionage threats in the academic world.


"This may be the best $67 million investment the CCP has ever made," retired FBI intelligence chief Kevin Brock told Just the News. "By donating a stunning amount of money to an American university with deep ties to Joe Biden, China was able to have a major impediment to its strategy of targeting American academic researchers across the country completely removed courtesy of Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland.
"Bottom line," Brock added, "the FBI's China Initiative worked against a known national security threat. The idea that it was racially biased is absurd and certainly less so than the common practice of admissions discrimination against Asian American students so common in many Ivy League schools."
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton said the Biden DOJ's closing of the FBI counterintelligence program was "a huge mistake" and that arguments by universities like Penn that the program was racist were preposterous.
"It obviously has nothing to do with race," Bolton said on the John Solomon Reports podcast Wednesday. "There's long been great relations between the people of China and the people of the United States. And the past 70-plus years, it's been the communist government of China. That's been the problem. And they're the ones that were conducting the espionage. They've been all over American universities."


Among Congressional investigators, there is a broader concern that the Penn Biden Center and the flow of Chinese money to the host university may have been part of a larger China influence operation targeting the Biden family, one that U.S. banks began flagging with suspicious activity reports to the Treasury Department in 2013 — after Hunter Biden joined his father on a trip to Beijing and began scoring overseas business deals.
In the 2017-18 time period, while the center was set up, Hunter Biden was deep in negotiations with a Chinese energy company called CEFC on a deal to route U.S. natural gas and energy assets to the Chinese. The deal included the Biden family getting a $5 million no interest, forgiveable loan from Chinese sources, according to a document found on a laptop seized by the FBI.
The loan arrangement, confirmed in documents previously obtained by Just the News and information released by Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), shows that CEFC Beijing International Energy Company Limited understood the transaction would greatly benefit Joe Biden's family (referred to as "BD family" in emails).
In one case uncomfortably close to the first family, Patrick Ho, one of Hunter Biden's business partners in the CEFC China energy deal, was charged with using a U.S. think tank to carry out a scheme to bribe officials in Africa over energy deals.


Patrick Ho, a CEFC executive who worked closely with Hunter Biden before his arrest, was eventually convicted in a federal court in Manhattan of multiple felonies and sentenced to three years in prison.
The DOJ alleged that Ho also tried to broker arms transactions and other business with Iran in violation of Western sanctions. Ho wrote an email in 2014 — before he connected with the Biden family — saying that "Iran has money in a bank in China which is under sanction" and that it wished to purchase precious metals through a bank in Hong Kong, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court.
At least one of the classified documents that Joe Biden's lawyer found at his private think tank office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington involved intelligence on Iran, according to multiple media reports.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

https://justthenews.com/accountabili...nd-fbi-program

University that housed Biden center pressed to end FBI China spy probe after big Beijing donations


University of Pennsylvania, which hosted the Penn Biden Center where classified documents were found in November, received $47.7 million from China in the three years when Biden was affiliated with it.

The University of Pennsylvania, the Ivy League institution which collected tens of millions of dollars from China while paying Joe Biden and hosting his foreign policy think tank, successfully pressured the Biden Justice Department to end an FBI counterespionage program targeting Beijing's increasing influence within U.S. academia.


Attorney General Merrick Garland shut down the FBI's so-called China initiative in February 2022 shortly after more than 160 members of the University of Pennsylvania faculty signed and made public an open letter demanding the program be shuttered, on the grounds that it amounted to racial profiling. The faculty letter was part of a

larger university battle

against the program.





"We acknowledge the importance to the United States of protecting both intellectual property and information that is essential to our national and economic security," read the letter made public on Feb. 9. "We understand that concerns about Chinese government sanctioned activities including intellectual property theft and economic espionage are important to address.
"We believe, however, that the China Initiative has deviated significantly from its claimed mission: it is harming the United States' research and technology competitiveness and it is fueling biases that, in turn, raise concerns about racial profiling."
A handful of left-leaning universities, including Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard, had also previously appealed to the DOJ to close down the program.



Two weeks after the letter was sent, Garland announced the termination of the program, sending shockwaves through federal law enforcement.
The DOJ's own website still includes, to this day, a lengthy recitation of criminal cases the 4-year-old program had brought against members of academia who were working with China — either on espionage charges or failure to disclose foreign monies, as is required by law.
Just a month prior to the Garland decision, FBI Director Christopher Wray traveled to the Reagan presidential library to give a speech pleading for the government to devote more attention and resources to combating China's devastating influence inside the United States. He specifically cited cases where Beijing had used university academics to do its bidding. The FBI boss claimed China's espionage has become "more brazen, [and] more damaging."
"China's government has the global reach and presence of a great nation, but it refuses to act the part and too often uses its capabilities to steal and threaten, rather than to cooperate and build," he argued. "That theft, those threats, are happening right here in America, literally every day."



Just the News reached out to both the Justice Department, to confirm whether Penn ever officially lobbied the DOJ directly, and also to the university itself. Neither institution responded.
Penn has long ties to both the Biden family and China. Its former president, Amy Gutmann, for instance, was named by the president in 2021 to be his ambassador to Germany.
During her Senate confirmation, Gutmann acknowledged the university took money from Chinese interests but insisted it did not affect the school's values and that the university even rejected creating a Confucius Institute on campus funded by entities tied to the Chinese government.
"What I do know, and what I make sure of, is that no gifts, no contracts, to the University of Pennsylvania are allowed to threaten academic freedom, are allowed to threaten national security," she testified. "We do no classified research."


Penn is in the limelight now after the revelation Monday that classified documents from Biden's vice presidency — including top secret items and intelligence on Ukraine and Iran — were found last November in Biden's old office at the Penn Biden Center think tank, where he worked in D.C. from 2017 to 2019.
The White House claimed the memos were found by lawyers cleaning out Biden's old office. Multiple news organizations reported Wednesday that more classified documents were found at a second location used by Biden.
The university has said it did not solicit any donations specifically to fund the Penn Biden Center, funding it out of its operating budget while also paying Biden a handsome sum to be an honorary professor who did not teach classes but made occasional appearance or lectures.
Biden's tax returns reviewed by Just the News show Penn paid the future president $911,644 between spring 2017 and spring 2019, when he stepped aside to run for president.


Reports compiled by the conservative watchdog group National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC) from disclosures to the Department of Education showed that Penn collected more than $67.6 million in donations and contracts from China between 2013 and 2019. The vast majority of that money, $47.7 million, flowed during the three years Biden was employed by the university, the records show.
The Chinese money poured in most rapidly in the four months after Biden opened the center in February 2018, a period during which nearly $20 million came through, including a $14.5 million anonymous gift on May 28, 2018, according to a complaint the NLPC filed with the Department of Education in May of 2020. The complaint requested that the department investigate all the Chinese gifts to Penn and the Penn Biden Center, alleging that the gifts listed as anonymous were "in clear violation" of the Higher Education Act's requirement that "all gifts or contracts exceeding $250,000 must disclose the foreign ownership and control of the gift or contract."
"The University of Pennsylvania and the Penn Biden Center are particularly vulnerable to China government influences due to the large amounts of China donations and contracts," the NLPC alleged in the complaint.
The NLPC filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on Tuesday seeking "all documents, including but not limited to emails, text messages, communications, memoranda, and photographs, that refer to the discovery and handling of classified and other presidential records that were in a closet at the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement."



"They do get money from China, either directly or indirectly," NLPC counsel Paul Kamenar told Just the News. "With Hunter [Biden], it was directly from an energy company. It's a fact that UPenn has received some $60 million in Chinese donations, $22 million of which is anonymous. The actual donors should be disclosed. Not simply that it's 'from China.'"
The watchdog group filed a complaint with the DOJ in October 2020 urging that the center be investigated for failure to register as "foreign agents" under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. The university has denied any wrongdoing.
Penn has been very "opaque" when confronted with these discrepancies, and "it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to realize the money from China to the school is not going to Pennsylvania's music department," said Kamenar. "It's going to UPenn's international program, of which the Biden Center is one of the top beneficiaries."
Kamenar also raised several other questions and concerns, including how the classified documents in question ended up in the Biden Center in the first place when it didn't even open its doors until two years after the former vice president had left office.



Noting that the White House is claiming Biden was vacating the Penn-Biden Center office space, Kamenar said he spoke with the leasing manager of the building, who said the center still had 4-5 years left on its lease.
"Why would you have high powered attorneys be your movers?" Kamenar asked. "That's a high price to pay for a mover. What were the lawyers doing there in the first place? I'd like to know their names."
Penn boasts numerous programs in China, including "currently [having] over 20 international partnerships with Chinese institutions, including Shanghai Jiao Tong University, with whom Penn first entered into an agreement in 1980," according to its website. "Faculty from all of Penn's 12 schools have reported over 350 research projects and instructional activities in China, including many of the projects presented at the annual Penn China Research Symposium."
Several security experts interviewed by Just the News said the loss of the China Initiative after pressure from schools like Penn was a serious blow to the FBI's ability to fight Chinese espionage threats in the academic world.


"This may be the best $67 million investment the CCP has ever made," retired FBI intelligence chief Kevin Brock told Just the News. "By donating a stunning amount of money to an American university with deep ties to Joe Biden, China was able to have a major impediment to its strategy of targeting American academic researchers across the country completely removed courtesy of Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland.
"Bottom line," Brock added, "the FBI's China Initiative worked against a known national security threat. The idea that it was racially biased is absurd and certainly less so than the common practice of admissions discrimination against Asian American students so common in many Ivy League schools."
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton said the Biden DOJ's closing of the FBI counterintelligence program was "a huge mistake" and that arguments by universities like Penn that the program was racist were preposterous.
"It obviously has nothing to do with race," Bolton said on the John Solomon Reports podcast Wednesday. "There's long been great relations between the people of China and the people of the United States. And the past 70-plus years, it's been the communist government of China. That's been the problem. And they're the ones that were conducting the espionage. They've been all over American universities."


Among Congressional investigators, there is a broader concern that the Penn Biden Center and the flow of Chinese money to the host university may have been part of a larger China influence operation targeting the Biden family, one that U.S. banks began flagging with suspicious activity reports to the Treasury Department in 2013 — after Hunter Biden joined his father on a trip to Beijing and began scoring overseas business deals.
In the 2017-18 time period, while the center was set up, Hunter Biden was deep in negotiations with a Chinese energy company called CEFC on a deal to route U.S. natural gas and energy assets to the Chinese. The deal included the Biden family getting a $5 million no interest, forgiveable loan from Chinese sources, according to a document found on a laptop seized by the FBI.
The loan arrangement, confirmed in documents previously obtained by Just the News and information released by Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), shows that CEFC Beijing International Energy Company Limited understood the transaction would greatly benefit Joe Biden's family (referred to as "BD family" in emails).
In one case uncomfortably close to the first family, Patrick Ho, one of Hunter Biden's business partners in the CEFC China energy deal, was charged with using a U.S. think tank to carry out a scheme to bribe officials in Africa over energy deals.


Patrick Ho, a CEFC executive who worked closely with Hunter Biden before his arrest, was eventually convicted in a federal court in Manhattan of multiple felonies and sentenced to three years in prison.
The DOJ alleged that Ho also tried to broker arms transactions and other business with Iran in violation of Western sanctions. Ho wrote an email in 2014 — before he connected with the Biden family — saying that "Iran has money in a bank in China which is under sanction" and that it wished to purchase precious metals through a bank in Hong Kong, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court.
At least one of the classified documents that Joe Biden's lawyer found at his private think tank office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington involved intelligence on Iran, according to multiple media reports.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

I find it curious that no one responds to the suggestion that what's good for the goose is good for the gander other than lame arguments about shades of gray.....fuck, they're both too gray for the office. Can't say Biden is at fault without also saying that Trump is at fault as well and vice versa.

They are indeed the same shade of grey.

President Trump has been talked about here in connection with the Mar Alago materials at great length already. Lets set that aside for the moment.

I would note that Mr. Biden has been deeply immersed in the political rackets in Washington DC for forty years and should have full knowledge of what is proper handling of classified information and what constitutes secure storage.

Instead, he asserted in a public statement that the level oof security proper for his vintage sports car is equivalent to the level of security proper for classified documents. What I am seeing is that these papers were no more secure than my 20 year old pickup truck.

[LayingPipe]

The first batch of documents were discovered Nov 2 and AG Garland was notified Nov 4 He hid the story to interfere with the midterm elections on Nov 8 even after Biden pledged to be a transparent administration


https://nypost.com/2023/01/10/gop-ra...fter-midterms/

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LayingPipe

The first batch of documents were discovered Nov 2 and AG Garland was notified Nov 4 He hid the story to interfere with the midterm elections on Nov 8 even after Biden pledged to be a transparent administration


https://nypost.com/2023/01/10/gop-ra...fter-midterms/

Had Trump done the same , instead of obstructing justice and lying , he'd not be in the pickle he was in.

[ICU 812]

Trump is not a sitting president.

Trump had stuff locked up and the proper authorities had access to it with full co-operation. Mr. Trump's garage housed no classified documents.

President Biden has had experience in managing classified information for the past forty years. He should know that properly storing classified papers has a higher standard of security than storing a vintage sports car.

[ICU 812]

Pickle? We will see what kind of a pickle results from the investigation that is to come.

I speculate that the string-pullers no longer want a second Biden term. Nor do "they" want VP Harris to step up to the presidency.

If I were writing this novel of political intrigue, it would follow the pattern of the Nixon presidency in broad outline.

This could get ugly if Hillery Clinton still wants the top job.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by WTF

Had Trump done the same , instead of obstructing justice and lying , he'd not be in the pickle he was in.

He’s not in a pickle, show raid notwithstanding.

[LayingPipe]

Originally Posted by WTF

Had Trump done the same

Apples and Oranges

President Trump had the authority to declassify documents

Vice President Biden did not

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LayingPipe

President Trump had the authority to declassify documents

But there is a process that must be followed for even Trump, as POTUS, to declassify documents. He can't declassify by thinking about it.

"In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said."

https://www.americanbar.org/news/aba...ial-authority/

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

But there is a process that must be followed for even Trump, as POTUS, to declassify documents. He can't declassify by thinking about it.

"In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said."

https://www.americanbar.org/news/aba...ial-authority/

Try not and confuse them with facts.

[WTF]

Here is wtf Trump said about classified information in 2016...sure sounds like 2016 Trump would imprison 2023 Trump over his handling of classified documents.


https://youtu.be/ThCMjd7irLM


.

[nevergaveitathought]

what is somewhat revealing is all the talking idiots and reporters on the left lamenting the idea that trump got lucky and is now off the hook due to biden's classified document troubles

that can only mean they know in their hearts that the doj cant now treat trump the way the doj would have because they know the doj would never treat biden that way...

all besides how the doj treated hellary...and of course the doj has already ignored the fact trump had special powers as president and how other presidents were treated

although merrick garland might have gotten in his best one-sided shot at trump...

i heard one speaker claim garland restricted the special counsel he appointed for biden's case to look no further than the specific document issue while with trump its a wide open whatever theory of attack that might hurt trump sort of investigation

so maybe all this stuff about the chinese and the fbi being pressured to stop any spy probe at the biden think tank (now there's a knee slapper, a biden "think" tank) may never be looked at, nor anything else like the biden crime family etc etc etc

some sleuth here might find those charge letters to see if there are any differences...usually dilbert is good at things like that

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

what is somewhat revealing is all the talking idiots and reporters on the left lamenting the idea that trump got lucky and is now off the hook due to biden's classified document troubles

that can only mean they know in their hearts that the doj cant now treat trump the way the doj would have because they know the doj would never treat biden that way...

all besides how the doj treated hellary...and of course the doj has already ignored the fact trump had special powers as president and how other presidents were treated

although merrick garland might have gotten in his best one-sided shot at trump...

i heard one speaker claim garland restricted the special counsel he appointed for biden's case to look no further than the specific document issue while with trump its a wide open whatever theory of attack that might hurt trump sort of investigation

so maybe all this stuff about the chinese and the fbi being pressured to stop any spy probe at the biden think tank (now there's a knee slapper, a biden "think" tank) may never be looked at, nor anything else like the biden crime family etc etc etc

some sleuth here might find those charge letters to see if there are any differences...usually dilbert is good at things like that

How long you gonna whine about poor ole Trump being picked on?