19th amendment annulled

[Grace Preston]

No-- it is not a law.


It is common practice, however. Sometimes the doctors will cite "hospital policy" and sometimes they're willing to say its their own policy. The point is to illustrate the way women are still often viewed as little more than property-- needing "permission" to make permanent changes.



Hell-- we have only been guaranteed the right to bank accounts and credit cards for less than 50 years now.



I do not have faith in the powers that be-- because time and time again they (as a collective) have shown their disdain for my abilities to govern myself. I mean-- hell-- look at the board we're on. How many new laws have been created to try to make it harder for me to conduct business? Fuck bodily autonomy with abortion, as that can easily be argued as there is a second body involved-- why is it that I cannot have the autonomy to fuck someone and get paid for it if that is my choice??

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

No-- it is not a law.


It is common practice, however. Sometimes the doctors will cite "hospital policy" and sometimes they're willing to say its their own policy. The point is to illustrate the way women are still often viewed as little more than property-- needing "permission" to make permanent changes.



Hell-- we have only been guaranteed the right to bank accounts and credit cards for less than 50 years now.



I do not have faith in the powers that be-- because time and time again they (as a collective) have shown their disdain for my abilities to govern myself. I mean-- hell-- look at the board we're on. How many new laws have been created to try to make it harder for me to conduct business? Fuck bodily autonomy with abortion, as that can easily be argued as there is a second body involved-- why is it that I cannot have the autonomy to fuck someone and get paid for it if that is my choice??

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

It's about time another sister chimes in. You know girl, you crossed my mind. Where ya' been?

Bitches get tired of holdin' it down.

dilby, your artistic assesment?

meh.. its so so....

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

I'd love to have faith.

But we still live in a country where if a woman decides she does not want children-- she can still be denied a tubal ligation unless she already has two children AND her spouse consents. And that's even if she is self pay-- this isn't an insurance issue.

Meanwhile-- men need no such qualifications for a vasectomy....

hmm.. in some states, men need to get permission from their wives for that procedure.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Please tell me more about who is denying this. Are you saying this is federal law of some kind? Or state law since you say it isn't insurance related.

My wife's best friend was told when she was in her mid 20's that the Doctor would not perform the operation. More than anything, it's the Dr. trying to avoid a future lawsuit by a woman who will claim she wasn't "aware" that it would mean no more children.

You can blame the lawyers not the Doctors for their refusal.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by timmystool

IF women cant decide their own health choices, this is great reasoning to take away their right to vote!


Passed by Congress June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th amendment granted women the right to vote. The 19th amendment legally guarantees American women the right to vote. Achieving this milestone required a lengthy and difficult struggle—victory took decades of agitation and protest.




IF R V Wade is overturned, then is the next step




FYI:

I dont agree with any removal of rights,
its a women's body, her choice

A rather stupid post and a farcical understanding of the Constitution and the law. Overturning Roe V Wade does not take away ANYONE's rights. First and foremost, it says that federal government is out of the abortion business where the government took rights away from the unborn. Oh, it was the GOP who gave women the right to vote...you're welcome.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

No-- it is not a law.


It is common practice, however. Sometimes the doctors will cite "hospital policy" and sometimes they're willing to say its their own policy. The point is to illustrate the way women are still often viewed as little more than property-- needing "permission" to make permanent changes.



Hell-- we have only been guaranteed the right to bank accounts and credit cards for less than 50 years now.



I do not have faith in the powers that be-- because time and time again they (as a collective) have shown their disdain for my abilities to govern myself. I mean-- hell-- look at the board we're on. How many new laws have been created to try to make it harder for me to conduct business? Fuck bodily autonomy with abortion, as that can easily be argued as there is a second body involved-- why is it that I cannot have the autonomy to fuck someone and get paid for it if that is my choice??

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Grace...thanks to the democrats and woke mobs, women don't count anymore. Anyone can get pregnant. Any man can say that he is a woman and...viola' he is.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

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Grace...thanks to the democrats and woke mobs, women don't count anymore. Anyone can get pregnant. Any man can say that he is a woman and...viola' he is.

Yeah-- you cannot blame that on Democrats and the "woke mobs". This has been the status quo far longer than either of those entities have had a spotlight.



Republicans are ever at the forefront of laws that try to make it harder for me to work-- or harder for me to maintain a bank account (there are girls who are only camgirls.. which is fully legal.. who have had bank accounts closed down for being sex workers).



It is not a matter of party-- it is a matter that the powers that be still treat women as though we cannot govern ourselves. As I said in my previous post-- forget abortion for a moment.. because at least in that case, there is a reasonable argument as to a second body being involved.... I'm taking it very basic to illustrate why I may not trust that those who wish to completely ban abortion are doing so with the purest intentions towards the sanctity of life.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Life does. But women can't vote if you're an originalist. Er go Visa Versa Hippo Campus - Bada Boom, no rights.















Not Human.

For their next trick.

Ok, let's see if we come to that bridge.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by WTF

Crazy narratives?

Is it not fact that Mitch McConnell has not already discussed a national ban on abortion.

So on one hand Republicans argue it a state right and yet on the other they argue it is a Federal right.

If the SCOTUS opinion holds, and Antifa/BLM doesn’t kill a couple justices, then McConnell is shit out of luck because the ruling will prevent that from happening.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by texassapper

My wife's best friend was told when she was in her mid 20's that the Doctor would not perform the operation. More than anything, it's the Dr. trying to avoid a future lawsuit by a woman who will claim she wasn't "aware" that it would mean no more children.

You can blame the lawyers not the Doctors for their refusal.

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[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

...Hell-- we have only been guaranteed the right to bank accounts and credit cards for less than 50 years now...

O I C. So going back to say 1972, you say? Maybe unrelated but uhhmm...






Cause <---> Effect ??

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Yeah-- you cannot blame that on Democrats and the "woke mobs". This has been the status quo far longer than either of those entities have had a spotlight.



Republicans are ever at the forefront of laws that try to make it harder for me to work-- or harder for me to maintain a bank account (there are girls who are only camgirls.. which is fully legal.. who have had bank accounts closed down for being sex workers).



It is not a matter of party-- it is a matter that the powers that be still treat women as though we cannot govern ourselves. As I said in my previous post-- forget abortion for a moment.. because at least in that case, there is a reasonable argument as to a second body being involved.... I'm taking it very basic to illustrate why I may not trust that those who wish to completely ban abortion are doing so with the purest intentions towards the sanctity of life.

I'd sure be interested in knowing what those laws were that were passed by republicans. The right to vote, I can point to the votes cast in the House and Senate and prove that it was the GOP who carried the water and the day of the Women's Suffrage movement.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Yeah-- you cannot blame that on Democrats and the "woke mobs". This has been the status quo far longer than either of those entities have had a spotlight. ...

So you are saying that a long time ago this human to computer interaction was common place?

Hey Google: can men get pregnant
Top two search results, not counting ads

Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think.

Or are you saying that the below emoji is from days long gone by in black and white??

[timmystool]

this thread went downhill fast


oh supreme court is trying to take away more rights?


how expected


-contraceptives
-same sex marriage


all this because a president not elected by the majority of the people due to electoral collage
put in 3 lying justices who do what the GOP wants done


the SC is about politics, not about right vs wrong