Let's Get It Straight - Just Who Are the Real Fascists?

[Bighoo1]

word semantics is a classic leftists way to prove nothing
he knows they didn't "take it over" correct wording would be tried to burn it down however ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN did have footage of the molotov cocktails that his comrades threw at the building and expolded in flames
Or was that some Hollywood Magic never mind the man behind the curtains
There was no info on Hillarys server that's why we destroyed it and bleach it etc etc etc etc
and the fun never stops

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by LayingPipe

Portland protesters by barricading federal officers inside a courthouse controlled (took over) who went in or out and tried to set the building on fire


https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/portla...ficers-inside/

Did you read the article. The barricade was report by tweets to a high school newspaper. That’s some intrepid reporting from the NY Post right there. No wonder you guys make the looniest claims. You’ll literally believe anything.

Never heard this called a “take over”. Never. Ever. I knew the statement was dubious but WOW.

[winn dixie]

It happened! Youre baiting trying to play word games.
Have you forgotten neighborhoods under siege as well by these same terrorists?

These are "The Real Fascists".

[1blackman1]

Word games? I am not the one that said the federal courthouse was taken over. Ya know, because it wasn’t. The people that keep making these statements can just admit the lied or was misinformed or whatever. But sadly y’all are incapable of just admitting that you get bad information and keep spreading lie after lie. If it’s not a lie and is true, that woulda been big news and as such a link would be easy to find.

No one took over a federal courthouse or any federal building for that matter, unless you’re referring to Jan 6 because there they took over the building with force. But that’s a totally different discussion.

[Lucas McCain]

Sorry 1b1. You are wrong! If Fox reported it and especially if Fucker Carlson said it, everyone knows it's a fact!

The fact of the matter is most of the people commenting don't even fucking know what a true fascist society or party even is.

[1blackman1]

My bad man. I forgot how the Trumpys get information. A political talking head needs to fill their little minds.

[chefnerd]

Would these characteristics suffice on what is Fascism?

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
   Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
   Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
   The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military
   Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism
   The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media
   Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security
   Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
   Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected
   The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

[Lucas McCain]

LOL, chef. Like I said, most of the people like the OP don't even know what the damn word even means. They are just parroting what they hear from the goofballs on Fox or whatever Trump tells them to believe.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

LOL, chef. Like I said, most of the people like the OP don't even know what the damn word even means. They are just parroting what they hear from the goofballs on Fox or whatever Trump tells them to believe.

And are terrified of a group that is anti-fascism...


Too bad more anti-fascism didn't occur in the late 1930's in Germany. Maybe they are afraid of the gazpacho because MTG told them to be.

[chefnerd]

Well, I will admit that #5 is not quite as rampant as it once was given the number of unqualified female judges put forth. Gee did they succumb to the advances of DD?


Although I do wonder how long it will be before the ignorant try to tell me. like in the past that these are socialist or communist tetets

[Tiny]

Based on a little searching on the internet, Chefnerd's list was written by Laurence Britt, and is something Britt basically just made up.

Here's the definition of fascism from Wikipedia,

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

With all due respect to posters here, neither party is fascist.

[chefnerd]

Perhaps you should go a little deeper into your research. Wikipedia is not always known as the know all knowledge although it can be useful. Britt did not just MAKE THIS UP. It is a comparison of the common characteristics of the following governments"
Hitler (Germany)
Mussolini (Italy)
Franco (Spain)
Salazar (Portugal).
Papadopodoulos (Greece).
Pinochet (Chile)
Suharto (Indonesia)
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/54/54_48-49.pdf

[chefnerd]

Now another individual to perhaps read on this subject would be Umberto Eco. He grew up under Mussolini and to my knowledge would know a great deal about this subject. However, from what I understand, his writings are not something you can understand in an evening. Been trying to find his writings but oh yeah, the Trustees of my local library system or of the ILLEGAL mindset that they have the right to tell me what I can and cannot read

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Word games? I am not the one that said the federal courthouse was taken over. Ya know, because it wasn’t. The people that keep making these statements can just admit the lied or was misinformed or whatever. But sadly y’all are incapable of just admitting that you get bad information and keep spreading lie after lie. If it’s not a lie and is true, that woulda been big news and as such a link would be easy to find.

No one took over a federal courthouse or any federal building for that matter, unless you’re referring to Jan 6 because there they took over the building with force. But that’s a totally different discussion.

... Hee Hee! : Keep telling us, mate.
You got us all laughing... "Bad information" ...

Nobody lit the police houses a-fire, either...

"Show me a link!" ... "Here ya go!" ...

Blimey! ... I surely thought YOU were gonna call it
"Russian Dis-information"...

#### Salty

[chefnerd]

Other than your head which is obviously a perfect match for a dunce cap do you actually a legitimate point?