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Old 04-14-2022, 10:04 PM   #46
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This is the United States. At one time we were able to discuss anything topic without fear or retribution. Now, we have people like WTF and other lefties. Sounds like good old fashioned McCarthyism left over from the 1950s. The democrats like to talk about the "switch" but they don't see the real switch. From freedom loving hippies to rock hard authoritarians.
You mean like the demagoguery from the Republicans under McCarthy? Or how about the LOVE they have always had for authoritarians. Iran in 1953, or Guatemala in 1954 or maybe Chile in 1973. LEGITIMATELY elected Democracies overthrown for authoritarian dictators. Or maybe the bromance by Diaper Don with Kim. Maybe Diaper's obedience to Vlad. How about CPAC holding their next conference in Hungary where the AUTOCRAT has just about decimated all freedoms.
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:14 PM   #47
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No, but it should be split up. Donbas and Crimea should be independently recognized and Russia be given security and neutrality assurances from the rest. Short of that you’re pissing into the wind and untold deaths are forthcoming.
Exactly. This is not going to end well for Ukraine, if they don't surrender soon.
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Old 04-15-2022, 12:23 AM   #48
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Return to feudalism. Oligarchs in charge.

You boys don’t want freedom. You want Trump.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:38 AM   #49
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I don't think we CAN cede Ukraine to Russia. Its not ours to give away.

However, I have long thought we should give Puerto Rico to Cuba.
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Old 04-15-2022, 07:14 AM   #50
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Return to feudalism. Oligarchs in charge.

You boys don’t want freedom. You want Trump.
You were doing good until you just could not help yourself.

TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP……..

The consensus among my fellow conservatives seems to be…..”there is no way the Ukrainians can win against the mighty Russian Juggernaut”.

Maybe so. But I still think we should give the Ukrainians every thing they need to kill as many Russians as humanly possible.

Now, the big question arises. Who is paying for all of this. This isn’t “lend lease”.

Just one Javelin and it’s launcher cost around $170,000.

Investing in any company that furnished munitions for The United States Military might be a smart move.
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Old 04-15-2022, 07:21 AM   #51
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I don't think we CAN cede Ukraine to Russia. Its not ours to give away.

However, I have long thought we should give Puerto Rico to Cuba.
They still couldn’t afford it.
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Old 04-15-2022, 11:29 AM   #52
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Here are the 3 in a group photo. Putin, Wacko, and Bamb.


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Old 04-15-2022, 04:06 PM   #53
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You mean like the demagoguery from the Republicans under McCarthy? Or how about the LOVE they have always had for authoritarians. Iran in 1953, or Guatemala in 1954 or maybe Chile in 1973. LEGITIMATELY elected Democracies overthrown for authoritarian dictators. Or maybe the bromance by Diaper Don with Kim. Maybe Diaper's obedience to Vlad. How about CPAC holding their next conference inHungary where the AUTOCRAT has just about decimated all freedoms.

Been watching CNN and MSNBC huh? Yeah, the freedom loving Hungarians who you say have lost those freedoms just re-elected the guy for a fourth time. What Hungary has decimated is all this multi-cultural bullshit! Hungary for Hungarians! That is what really sticks in the craw of so called Progressives. Hungary has decided to remain neutral in the present conflict and it is easy to see why with both Brussels and Putin saying "you better do what we say".



To Progressives, anybody against open borders is an Autocrat.
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Old 04-15-2022, 04:08 PM   #54
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Exactly. This is not going to end well for the colonies, if they don't surrender soon.

Another quote from King George!


Give me liberty or give me death!
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Old 04-15-2022, 04:12 PM   #55
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I don't think we CAN cede Ukraine to Russia. Its not ours to give away.

However, I have long thought we should give Puerto Rico to Cuba.
I don't know about that but, the idea of buying Greenland was pretty good.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:19 PM   #56
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You mean like the demagoguery from the Republicans under McCarthy? Or how about the LOVE they have always had for authoritarians. Iran in 1953, or Guatemala in 1954 or maybe Chile in 1973. LEGITIMATELY elected Democracies overthrown for authoritarian dictators. Or maybe the bromance by Diaper Don with Kim. Maybe Diaper's obedience to Vlad. How about CPAC holding their next conference in Hungary where the AUTOCRAT has just about decimated all freedoms.

nonsense. the left hates Orban because he protects Hungary's borders.. let's look at their usual bullshit lies ...



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Been watching CNN and MSNBC huh? Yeah, the freedom loving Hungarians who you say have lost those freedoms just re-elected the guy for a fourth time. What Hungary has decimated is all this multi-cultural bullshit! Hungary for Hungarians! That is what really sticks in the craw of so called Progressives. Hungary has decided to remain neutral in the present conflict and it is easy to see why with both Brussels and Putin saying "you better do what we say".



To Progressives, anybody against open borders is an Autocrat.



correct! here are some of the usual suspects like The Atlantic and VOX rage whining.


It happened there: how democracy died in Hungary

A new kind of authoritarianism is taking root in Europe — and there are warning signs for America.


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...arianism-trump


The Hungary-Serbia border runs through a wilderness, tall grass flatlands ringed by imposing clusters of trees and thickets. When I visited a stretch of the Serbian side on a sunny day in June, the landscape would have been lovely — had it not been for the gigantic barbed-wire fence running straight through the middle of it.



The border fence had been built three years earlier on the Hungarian side, by the order of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who had sold it to the public as Hungary’s first line of defense against an “invasion” of asylum seekers during a massive surge in migration to Europe from conflict-ridden countries in 2015. Two years later, he sent a bill for the fence’s construction cost to Brussels, suggesting the European Union should repay Hungary for ”protecting all the citizens of Europe from the flood of illegal migrants.”



Hungary wants to protect its borders! fascism! bahhaaaaa not.



https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/07/viktor-orban-autocracy-hungary-election/619351/


The Autocrat’s Legacy


Defeating Viktor Orbán will be hard, but undoing Hungary’s democratic decline will be harder.


Several people I spoke with for this story, including friends and allies of Karácsony in Budapest, told me that he is, in many ways, the exact opposite of Orbán: While the Hungarian prime minister fits comfortably within the global far right, Karácsony hails from the green left. While Orbán is largely associated with the Hungarian countryside, where his core base resides, Karácsony is seen as part of the country’s cosmopolitan intelligentsia. Orbán is an illiberal strongman whose politics is defined by a rotating cast of enemies (among them Muslim migrants, LGBTQ people, the Hungarian-born financier George Soros, and Brussels); Karácsony is an environmentally friendly progressive who preaches consensus-building and compromise. Orbán is old and familiar; Karácsony, 12 years the prime minister’s junior, is a fresh face. “He is short and fat, and I am tall and slim,” Karácsony recently told The Economist—a gag for which he later apologized. (Orbán probably wouldn’t have.)


well there it is! illiberal automatically means fascist! no wonder the left is having such a conniption fit over this guy.



bahahhahahaaaaaa
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yasmin... shes cute but shes an anti-trumper.
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Old 04-16-2022, 04:23 AM   #60
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Mmm...your arguments sound so familiar, perhaps the Chicoms aren't such evil beings as some of our ignorant posters in this forum have alleged...




https://nationworldnews.com/chinese-...cherish-peace/
No, they're evil. Make no doubt about that. Just listen to the leaked video of people shrieking while locked up in their apartments. They're killing their cats and dogs for food. It's 1960 all over again except it is in the city. Slave labor, involuntary organ sales, mass murder, and well, you should get it. Pure evil and the American left is in bed with them.
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