I blame OBAMA

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Uncle Han

Why would it make sense to you Kcoc Rider? It's too complicated for you to understand. Just go back to sucking donkey cum out of Obama's ass. LOL!

Is that you, Marshy?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by Uncle Han

Another useful idiot talking about things which are too complicated for him to understand! LOL! These radical ass-clowns are too funny!

Hey Uncle Han, what is so complex about a simple accounting problem? The expense of Government spending is greater than the Revenue from taxes collected. Bush had a gift surplus from Clinton( for the last government fiscal accounting year) it did not take long for Bush to blow that. Lowering tax percentages for everyone (all seven tax brackets) and starting two wars (one completely fabricated) is about as stupid as you can get. Bush went to Harvard MBA, it did not do him much good, He ran the Texas Rangers into the ground and then he ran the USA into the steepest recession since the Great Depression. Of course Dick Cheney would make the same decision with Iraq, he has a $300,000 no show job from Haliburton, their way of saying thanks for getting that no compete bid million dollar contract with the government to feed the soldiers. He has 300,000 reasons to make the same decision. Everything that Bush did, nothing was paid for includeing ("no child left behind"). So far Uncle Han, your bark has been larger than your bite.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

So far Uncle Han, your bark has been larger than your bite.

So was Marshy's!

[Uncle Han]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Hey Uncle Han, what is so complex about a simple accounting problem? The expense of Government spending is greater than the Revenue from taxes collected. Bush had a gift surplus from Clinton( for the last government fiscal accounting year) it did not take long for Bush to blow that. Lowering tax percentages for everyone (all seven tax brackets) and starting two wars (one completely fabricated) is about as stupid as you can get. Bush went to Harvard MBA, it did not do him much good, He ran the Texas Rangers into the ground and then he ran the USA into the steepest recession since the Great Depression. Of course Dick Cheney would make the same decision with Iraq, he has a $300,000 no show job from Haliburton, their way of saying thanks for getting that no compete bid million dollar contract with the government to feed the soldiers. He has 300,000 reasons to make the same decision. Everything that Bush did, nothing was paid for includeing ("no child left behind"). So far Uncle Han, your bark has been larger than your bite.

Why you think I am a Bush supporter is beyond me. He was a better president than obama according to Bill Clinton. LOL!

You have many factual errors in your post. I can tell you are just another useful idiot who only watches Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews. LOL!

You cousin fuckin rainbow rednecks have ruined your country and the world laughs at you. LoL!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire

What a fucking bastard he is...

+1

"After adjusting for inflation, the Dow was higher in 2000 than it is today. It was also higher in 2007. It would need to rise another 10 percent [15680] or so to hit an all time high in real (i.e., inflation-adjusted) terms."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/...ter-if-it-were

"The Dow Jones industrial average plunged 217 points, its biggest drop in six weeks, to close at 14,960 Wednesday [5 June 2013], a loss of 1.4 percent."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3391948.html

Originally Posted by flghtr65

G.Q. good post. The other companies that received TARP loans are doing well too. GM, Chrysler, AIG have turned around and making a profit now. The banks are stable now. Mitt campaigned that he would get the unemployment rate to 6%. It is 7.5% right now and going down. There were 165,000 jobs added in April. Let's see what happens over the next few months. From the front page of May 29th edition of the USA Today, 12.8 Trillion of new STOCK WEALTH produced in the broad market since March 9, 2009 or a 155% gain in the Wilshire 5000 index. The Wilshire 5000 index has over 5000 companies. Clearly, the means of production is not controlled by the state, the socialist tag for Obama does not apply. The economic recovery has been slow but the USA is recovering. Unfortunately it won't be long before IBH and the other right wingers will try to spin this.

U.S. Suffers Biggest Pay Drop On Record, As Workers Squeezed Tighter

The economic "recovery" just keeps getting worse for the average worker: U.S. employers squeezed their employees even harder than usual in the first quarter, leading to the biggest drop in hourly pay on record.

Hourly pay for nonfarm workers fell at a 3.8 percent annualized rate in the first quarter, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Wednesday [5 June 2013]. This was the biggest quarterly decline since the BLS started keeping track in 1947.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D323874

Originally Posted by flghtr65

COF, you did not mention any issue. I picked one(Benghazi) for you. Fast and Furious, although IBH still thinks Obama is at fault here, clearly the ATF agents in Arizona started the FAST & FURIOUS gun walking/running program for NINE MONTHS before they sent .

Odumbo and Holder are at fault: Fast and Furious happened on their watch – not W’s. Even Holder has admitted that; yet, you ignorantly persist to state otherwise.

"In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair. ....'In his eagerness to blame the previous administration, Attorney General Holder got his facts wrong.'"
http://washingtonexaminer.com/holder...rticle/2500157


Further:


"On October 26, 2009, a teleconference was held at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. to discuss U.S. strategy for combating Mexican drug cartels. Participating in the meeting were Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden, Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer, acting ATF Director Kenneth E. Melson, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Michele Leonhart, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Robert Mueller and the top federal prosecutors in the Southwestern border states."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

Originally Posted by flghtr65

CC, you can split hairs on this if you want to. Yes, the programs were executed at different times, but they were both GUN RUNNING/GUN WALKING programs. Fast and Furious walked more guns and there were no tracking devices used. Calling Operation Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious totally different, would be like calling Microsoft's Windows Version 7 operating system totally different from Windows Version 8.

There's no splitting hairs involved, flighty. Even the libertard MSM outlet ABC stated that Odumbo and Holder lied when they claimed Fast and Furious started under W!

President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program “Begun Under the Previous Administration” "Asked about the Fast and Furious program at the Univision forum on Thursday, President Obama falsely claimed that the program began under President George W. Bush....
In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency." http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...dministration/

Originally Posted by flghtr65

...The reason the USA is broke is because Bush lowered taxes for everyone (all seven tax brackets) and started two wars....

Just a reminder, Flighty, these are the facts. 1) It was Al Qaeda that attacked the U.S. on 9/11 2001 -- W didn't start the war. 2) There was no "peace treaty" formally ending the Gulf War, and Saddam Hussein violated the terms of the subsequent cease fire agreement that allowed him to remain in power. Hence, it was Hussein who "renewed" hostilities -- W didn't start a war. 3) It was the housing bubble that was initiated during Slick Willie the Perjurying Sexual Predator's regime that rendered the U.S. "broke."

[Yssup Rider]

My God! Look who's back!

Coroy, I am sad you still hate America, it's people, it's president, it's culture.

Why not just go away... For good this time.

Was there ever a formal declaration of war against Iraq? By either Bush? Thats a fact, too, Corpy.

But as long as you're back wallowing in Anti-American blather, remember you still owe us a couple of explanations!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bigtex

So was Marshy's!

I think you pegged it BT.

[CuteOldGuy]

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

+1

"After adjusting for inflation, the Dow was higher in 2000 than it is today. It was also higher in 2007. It would need to rise another 10 percent [15680] or so to hit an all time high in real (i.e., inflation-adjusted) terms."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/...ter-if-it-were

"The Dow Jones industrial average plunged 217 points, its biggest drop in six weeks, to close at 14,960 Wednesday [5 June 2013], a loss of 1.4 percent."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3391948.html


IBH, 175,000 jobs were added in May 2013. The DJIA went up by 207 points and closed at 15,248 on
June 7,2013. So just 400 points away from the inflation-adjusted all time high. Obama is cleaning up the mess that Bush left behind.



JU.S. Suffers Biggest Pay Drop On Record, As Workers Squeezed Tighter

The economic "recovery" just keeps getting worse for the average worker: U.S. employers squeezed their employees even harder than usual in the first quarter, leading to the biggest drop in hourly pay on record.

Hourly pay for nonfarm workers fell at a 3.8 percent annualized rate in the first quarter, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Wednesday [5 June 2013]. This was the biggest quarterly decline since the BLS started keeping track in 1947.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D323874
IBH, CEO's keeping more of the profits for themselves. The president can not control that.

Odumbo and Holder are at fault: Fast and Furious happened on their watch – not W’s. Even Holder has admitted that; yet, you ignorantly persist to state otherwise.

"In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair. ....'In his eagerness to blame the previous administration, Attorney General Holder got his facts wrong.'"
http://washingtonexaminer.com/holder...rticle/2500157


Further:


"On October 26, 2009, a teleconference was held at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. to discuss U.S. strategy for combating Mexican drug cartels. Participating in the meeting were Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden, Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer, acting ATF Director Kenneth E. Melson, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Michele Leonhart, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Robert Mueller and the top federal prosecutors in the Southwestern border states."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

IBH, Did you read your own link? Holder was not at this conference. Gun walking as an option to catch the Cartels was not discussed at the conference. The field agents in Arizona, without direction from the White House decided to use Gun Walking approach. The Gun walking started in Oct, 2009. The operation did not even have a name until two months later in December, when the agents noticed that the buyers worked in an auto body shop and raced cars on the street. Thus the name "Fast and Furious" after the movie with Vin Dissel. Holder did not receive the first email from the Arizona agents until early 2010. The guns were walking at least three plus months before he could know about it. The name Fast and Furious evolved two months after the agents started walking the guns. You have NOTHING. Go re-read paragraph 3 under Fast and Furious.Thanks for the link.

There's no splitting hairs involved, flighty. Even the libertard MSM outlet ABC stated that Odumbo and Holder lied when they claimed Fast and Furious started under W!

President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program “Begun Under the Previous Administration” "Asked about the Fast and Furious program at the Univision forum on Thursday, President Obama falsely claimed that the program began under President George W. Bush....
In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency." http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...dministration/

The concept of GUN WALKING started with Bush. The president said Bush had a gun walking program. The Agents did not name Fast and Furious until December 2009, two months after they started the operation. This comes from your own link.


Just a reminder, Flighty, these are the facts. 1) It was Al Qaeda that attacked the U.S. on 9/11 2001 -- W didn't start the war. 2) There was no "peace treaty" formally ending the Gulf War, and Saddam Hussein violated the terms of the subsequent cease fire agreement that allowed him to remain in power. Hence, it was Hussein who "renewed" hostilities -- W didn't start a war. 3) It was the housing bubble that was initiated during Slick Willie the Perjurying Sexual Predator's regime that rendered the U.S. "broke."

IBH, I have never disputed the USA going to AG. I have posts to back that up. Bush told the American People that we are invading Iraq because Iraq has WMD's. Do you remember Colin Powell's Powerpoint presentation before the United Nations? There were suppose to be warehouses full of WMD's. No WMD's were ever found and no link to Al-Quaida was ever found in Iraq. Also, since he lowered taxes he did not a way to pay for EITHER war. Last thing, No regulations for Wall Street caused the Wall Street meltdown. Clinton, did not process fraudulent mortgage loans. Clinton did not group the mortgages into securities and then print a fraudulent prospectus. Clinton did not give the mortgage back securities a rubber Stamp "AAA" rating, which allowed them to get saturated in to the market. The justice department is sueing Standard and Poors for granting "AAA" to worthless securities. The Seagel Glass act was a factor but not the most important thing. Lehman Brothers did not merge with anyone they just sold securities and lost just as much money as AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae. You left out a lot of facts.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

What was the growth rate of the economy in the last four years? The highest was 2.4% with is about a third of what it was during the Reagan recovery.

How many people are still out of work since the start of the recession? About 9 million people are still out of work. Reagan's recovery created 25 million jobs, Obama hasn't arrived back at zero yet.

.

The recession that Obama came into office with was much steeper than the one Reagan came into office with. Reagan raise taxes and he raised the debt ceiling 18 times. When was the last time GM, Chysler, AIG, Lehman Brothers, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Citygroup, Chase Bank, Merril Lynch, Morgan Stanley all went Bankrupt at the same time? The answer is it has never happened before. In may we added 175,000 jobs. Unemployment rate is 7.5%. The recovery has been slow but the economy is improving.

[Yssup Rider]

Uh Plywood Whiny... Why not link to that statement, so we can put in into context.

Disingenuous sack of shit.

Did Clinton say this before or after Obama slaughtered 4,000 innocent children? I suppose you aren't going to ever address that bit of outrageous bullshit either, are you?

[R.M.]

I blame Obama's dad for not pulling out.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by R.M.

I blame Obama's dad for not pulling out.

Couda, woulda, shoulda!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

IBH, I have never disputed the USA going to AG. I have posts to back that up. Bush told the American People that we are invading Iraq because Iraq has WMD's. Do you remember Colin Powell's Powerpoint presentation before the United Nations? There were suppose to be warehouses full of WMD's. No WMD's were ever found and no link to Al-Quaida was ever found in Iraq. Also, since he lowered taxes he did not a way to pay for EITHER war. Last thing, No regulations for Wall Street caused the Wall Street meltdown. Clinton, did not process fraudulent mortgage loans. Clinton did not group the mortgages into securities and then print a fraudulent prospectus. Clinton did not give the mortgage back securities a rubber Stamp "AAA" rating, which allowed them to get saturated in to the market. The justice department is sueing Standard and Poors for granting "AAA" to worthless securities. The Seagel Glass act was a factor but not the most important thing. Lehman Brothers did not merge with anyone they just sold securities and lost just as much money as AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae. You left out a lot of facts.

Simply put, you're wrong, flighty. It was the collapsing housing bubble that sent the U.S. into a tail-spin: short and simple. The housing bubble was fanned by Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator's repeal of Glass-Steagall. Without Glass-Steagall, government pressure on bankers to award risky mortgages, via the Community Reinvestment Act, gave rise to the fraudulent housing loan market.

[Yssup Rider]

Simply put, Corpy?

EVERYTHING YOU POST is Simply put.

How about simply posting a link to MY poll?