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08-18-2023, 11:45 PM
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Well kudos Tigbitties. You didn’t blame it on global warming and Republicans. Welcome back.
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08-19-2023, 01:05 AM
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Doesn't anybody read any more? There has been a drought for 6-8 months so things are dry. There were high winds due to low pressure area and a hurricane. A natural cause would be lightening or volcanic in nature or some such. Power line issues have caused fires in the U.S. Exact cause has yet to be determined but I know it won't be determined on this board.
@3-4000 acres burned. I'm not sure how someone would come up with 80% destroyed but probably same way they didn't know Hawaii is mostly (not in order of percentage) cities, volcanic rock, and different types of vegetation (trees (which burn slower than ground cover) included along with a wide variety of native and invasive plants that all burn).
Since the materials needed to rebuild will need to be sent by ship, an assessment needs to be made to know what to send, and Hawaii is pretty close to BFE, it's going to take a while
This link shows maps of the damage and satellite imagery where fires are still burning. It also contains general information as well as some possible causes of the fire. Downed power lines are one of the suspects. There were very high winds. A low pressure area at one end and a hurricane at the other side of the island.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...age-explained/
This link explains how the fire moved quickly.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...rricane-winds/
This link shows why it wasn't a DEW. All the images cited by the conspiracy people aren't from Hawaii or the current time frame.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-...ons/a-66556025
Since the last information that would be confirmed/discovered would be whether the government was involved or not and since I don't know who "they" are or where they are saying all these things, there is nothing to debunk (plus I would think if 80% of an island was in ruins it would have had to be one damn big bomb).
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Yeah, now go find a link where the people are happy with the Government response.
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08-19-2023, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigbitties38
Doesn't anybody read any more? There has been a drought for 6-8 months so things are dry. There were high winds due to low pressure area and a hurricane. A natural cause would be lightening or volcanic in nature or some such. Power line issues have caused fires in the U.S. Exact cause has yet to be determined but I know it won't be determined on this board.
@3-4000 acres burned. I'm not sure how someone would come up with 80% destroyed but probably same way they didn't know Hawaii is mostly (not in order of percentage) cities, volcanic rock, and different types of vegetation (trees (which burn slower than ground cover) included along with a wide variety of native and invasive plants that all burn).
Since the materials needed to rebuild will need to be sent by ship, an assessment needs to be made to know what to send, and Hawaii is pretty close to BFE, it's going to take a while
This link shows maps of the damage and satellite imagery where fires are still burning. It also contains general information as well as some possible causes of the fire. Downed power lines are one of the suspects. There were very high winds. A low pressure area at one end and a hurricane at the other side of the island.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...age-explained/
This link explains how the fire moved quickly.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...rricane-winds/
This link shows why it wasn't a DEW. All the images cited by the conspiracy people aren't from Hawaii or the current time frame.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-...ons/a-66556025
Since the last information that would be confirmed/discovered would be whether the government was involved or not and since I don't know who "they" are or where they are saying all these things, there is nothing to debunk (plus I would think if 80% of an island was in ruins it would have had to be one damn big bomb).
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Great post tigbitties with great links to go with it. I guess what amazes me is how the tin foil hat wearing brigade comes up with some of these conspiracy theories that are so easily debunked.
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08-19-2023, 07:58 PM
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Did he forget about it? That’s a rock solid Blue State that has yet to get aid from the Feds?
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Trying to keep up with #HeWhoShallBeNamed in delaying aid to Puerto Rico for years after hurricane devastated the island, charging taxes on what was shipped and other such things?
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09-02-2023, 12:43 PM
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How funny.
I posted a bunch of links that refuted your claims and cleared up your bullshit misinformation.
What does it matter whether or not the people are happy about the government response?
I didn't say anything about that. I posted links that showed how wrong you were, how lazy you were by not taking 10 minutes to research anything other than your DEW BS and your claims of what the locals were saying when you had no clue what had happened and why it happened.
It makes you mad when we point out and correct your BS. It makes you mad we don't take you at your word.
A little advice.
Stop lying. And when you whine about the government, include specific complaints. With a link.
Oh, stop claiming you're smarter than other people and then quickly proving you're not.
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Yeah, now go find a link where the people are happy with the Government response.
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09-03-2023, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigbitties38
How funny.
I posted a bunch of links that refuted your claims and cleared up your bullshit misinformation.
What does it matter whether or not the people are happy about the government response?
I didn't say anything about that. I posted links that showed how wrong you were, how lazy you were by not taking 10 minutes to research anything other than your DEW BS and your claims of what the locals were saying when you had no clue what had happened and why it happened.
It makes you mad when we point out and correct your BS. It makes you mad we don't take you at your word.
A little advice.
Stop lying. And when you whine about the government, include specific complaints. With a link.
Oh, stop claiming you're smarter than other people and then quickly proving you're not.
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Oh your links from Washington Post, just another Liberal rag of a publication and you think that's proof? I am sorry it isn't proof of shit.
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09-03-2023, 10:46 AM
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I'm with Levianon on this one. This fire doesn't pass the smell test. Boats on the water catching fire? They didn't blow the sirens. They shut off the water during the fire. They blocked the roads making it difficult for residents to leave. Local officials are resigning. They have surrounded the charred areas with black, no see through fencing. There is a media blackout on the area. No photography is allowed in the area. There is a drone flying ban currently in effect. What are they hiding? Where is the transparency that Hawaiians deserve? Why are Billionaires showing up like vultures trying to buy the property for pennies on the dollar? If you trust the corporate media and believe the government has your best interest, then YOU are the brain dead, crazy, tin foil hat, conspiracy theorist. How many times has Alex Jones been right? More times than you can count.
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09-03-2023, 11:30 AM
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I'm with Levianon on this one. This fire doesn't pass the smell test. Boats on the water catching fire? They didn't blow the sirens. They shut off the water during the fire. They blocked the roads making it difficult for residents to leave. Local officials are resigning. They have surrounded the charred areas with black, no see through fencing. There is a media blackout on the area. No photography is allowed in the area. There is a drone flying ban currently in effect. What are they hiding? Where is the transparency that Hawaiians deserve? Why are Billionaires showing up like vultures trying to buy the property for pennies on the dollar? If you trust the corporate media and believe the government has your best interest, then YOU are the brain dead, crazy, tin foil hat, conspiracy theorist. How many times has Alex Jones been right? More times than you can count.
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The following clip is of a City Council meeting where residence of Maui were present, voicing their concerns over the destruction of Maui. But of course to the Liberals who have their heads up the Governments ass this is misinformation because this was presented from Bitchute instead of a Liberal biased publication.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zd98UpSMD8Wv/
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09-03-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
The following clip is of a City Council meeting where residence of Maui were present, voicing their concerns over the destruction of Maui. But of course to the Liberals who have their heads up the Governments ass this is misinformation because this was presented from Bitchute instead of a Liberal biased publication.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zd98UpSMD8Wv/
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Less than .6% of Maui burned. Saying Maui burned is like all the dumbasses that say BLM and Antifa burned whole cities. What the fuck was the government supposed to do? Air drop billions of $$$ on the burned areas. It sucks what happened but like said before this will be a huge project to rebuild. Mega amounts of materials will have to be slow shipped or flow in. It isn't like they have thousands of temporary housing just laying around. In the mainland temp housing could be trucked on site in a matter of days.
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09-03-2023, 05:25 PM
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Less than .6% of Maui burned. Saying Maui burned is like all the dumbasses that say BLM and Antifa burned whole cities. What the fuck was the government supposed to do? Air drop billions of $$$ on the burned areas. It sucks what happened but like said before this will be a huge project to rebuild. Mega amounts of materials will have to be slow shipped or flow in. It isn't like they have thousands of temporary housing just laying around. In the mainland temp housing could be trucked on site in a matter of days.
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It's a little bit more than 5%.
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09-03-2023, 06:42 PM
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It's a little bit more than 5%.
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How about you back up what you are saying that it was 80% of Maui that burned by posting a link. And I am not talking about you referencing that tin foil hat wearing site bitchute that you so love to reference while you are hunkered down in your bunker.
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09-03-2023, 09:10 PM
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How about you back up what you are saying that it was 80% of Maui that burned by posting a link. And I am not talking about you referencing that tin foil hat wearing site bitchute that you so love to reference while you are hunkered down in your bunker.
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Whats a good source to find accurate information that isn't tainted by the Main Stream Media?
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09-03-2023, 09:21 PM
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You admitting you lied about the area you claimed that burned (by a factor of 16) gets no points from me. Going on the record as having lied doesn't make up for any of the proven lies you've told in the past.
To me, it's just "it's about fucking time!"
You lied, got caught, and when given the chance to correct your falsehood, you lied again.
Your claim of "a little more than 5%" is total bullshit too.
5% of Maui is 36.36 square miles (727.2 times .05 =36.36)
Did you notice I showed the numbers I used and how I got my answer?
On a math test, if you just supply an answer without how you arrived at it (like when your masters tell you what to reply if asked), you'll receive zero, zip, nada credit.
@10 square miles burned.
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It's a little bit more than 5%.
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09-03-2023, 09:38 PM
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From all your BS info, we thought you already had one. You provide statements all the time you present as facts. How can we help a person who uses bitchute as a credible source? People provide links you can't refute all the time.
Sorry we can't help you. It's Dunning-Kruger. Big time.
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Whats a good source to find accurate information that isn't tainted by the Main Stream Media?
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09-03-2023, 09:48 PM
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Whats a good source to find accurate information that isn't tainted by the Main Stream Media?
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My bet is that you have never been to Maui so you are totally clueless as to how much land burned. You hunker down in your basement along with the rest of the tin foil hat wearing comrades and think that bitchute is the gospel. :mf_microwa ve:
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