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Old 08-08-2023, 11:15 AM   #46
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As I understand it the brawl began when a group of white boaters engaged in a discussion with a black dock worker turned physical as one of them hit him. A group of white people beating on a black employee because their boat could not be docked quickly that erupts into a brawl will be hard to frame as hate crimes against white people.


Exactly. The black employee was just trying to do his job. Then he was attacked by more than one person. It seems that Winn Dixie has left out some facts.
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Old 08-08-2023, 06:03 PM   #47
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All of the videos I've seen contain guideline infractions.
One white male was fighting another man when suddenly anybody that was white was brutally attacked and the crowd cheered.
Wrong is wrong. This was hate crimes
Winn, Three white men were just charged for assault on the black dockworker. Where are you getting your information from?
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Old 08-08-2023, 06:17 PM   #48
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I finally saw this video today, actually just the beginning where the white dudes looked like the ones in the wrong. WD, perhaps you can share a link of what you are referring too. It’s dead wrong no matter what their color when that many gang up on just one man. Those ain’t bad assets ,those are cowards.
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Old 08-08-2023, 06:21 PM   #49
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Montgomery police have stated that there is not enough evidence to charge people for a hate crime. Just a bunch of drunk people doing stupid chit.
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Dang gentlemen. You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. (Not you Golfer Guy.)

Again, please see the link here for a pretty balanced view of what happened, in terms of the video, not necessarily the commentary.

https://youtu.be/-YUSZW5Px6o

Or if you want to see exactly what Winn Dixie is upset about, see this video,

https://twitter.com/mickeywon234/sta...nt-brawl-memes

Here's another one. The video in the left pane shows the pontoon boaters attacking the riverboat captain. The videos on the right show the vengeance of the crowd.

https://twitter.com/shannonsharpeee/...a-reactions%2F

This may not have started out about race, but it looks like it ended up that way.

And, a third time, I believe the boaters are just as culpable as the guy slinging the deck chair. Although they may have a bad excuse, like they're drunk assholes.

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Old 08-08-2023, 07:29 PM   #51
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Tiny I can understand your outrage as well as WD but as we all have our opinion but the only one that matters is with the Montgomery DA and police and both have stated that there was not enough evidence to charge the people with hate crimes. To be honest I have seen much worse while in the military as well as college.
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Old 08-08-2023, 08:15 PM   #52
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My views on hate crimes are closer to Jacuzzme's than Winn Dixie's GolferGuy. And I didn't see behavior in the videos that would cause me to believe people should be convicted of felonies, unless people went to the hospital, with more than a bloody nose. People posting here have no idea what Winn Dixie's talking about, and it's because they haven't seen the entire video coverage of the incident. Yes, I understand his outrage.
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Old 08-08-2023, 09:34 PM   #53
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I'll say it again. The white boaters were in the wrong.

What happened next.... All about race. Which is a hate crime.

I can tell who has actually seen the entire incident and who hasnt.


The da office ain't gonna do whats right here. This is being heralded as a huge woke win. Being another juneteenth and Boston tea party on social media. If this was the other way around. Doj and Garland would be there and lsm would be denouncing the South. Along with nation wide riots.


Antifa and blm have posts up saying ya,ll sure you want another civil war
with SNIPPET clips of whites being outnumbered and beaten at the dock.

The incident and attitudes on social media across the country is very concerning and disgusting.
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I'll say it again. The white boaters were in the wrong.

What happened next.... All about race. Which is a hate crime.

I can tell who has actually seen the entire incident and who hasnt.


The da office ain't gonna do whats right here. This is being heralded as a huge woke win. Being another juneteenth and Boston tea party on social media. If this was the other way around. Doj and Garland would be there and lsm would be denouncing the South. Along with nation wide riots.


Antifa and blm have posts up saying ya,ll sure you want another civil war
with SNIPPET clips of whites being outnumbered and beaten at the dock.

The incident and attitudes on social media across the country is very concerning and disgusting.
There was a segment on CNN an hour ago that played up the assault on the Riverboat captain and mostly ignored what happened afterwards. YouTube appears to be making it hard to view the part where the crowd goes wild and the guy bangs people over the head with a chair. But not the initial assault on the captain.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Otherwise I’d figure the mainstream media was on target.

And agreed, the pontoon boaters were in the wrong. The instigators probably deserved what they got. But still, people should be civil, regardless of race, creed or color.

The instigators will not be charged with hate crimes, according to the police chief, because there’s no evidence to do so.
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Old 08-08-2023, 10:57 PM   #55
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Dang gentlemen. You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. (Not you Golfer Guy.)

Again, please see the link here for a pretty balanced view of what happened, in terms of the video, not necessarily the commentary.

https://youtu.be/-YUSZW5Px6o

Or if you want to see exactly what Winn Dixie is upset about, see this video,

https://twitter.com/mickeywon234/sta...nt-brawl-memes

Here's another one. The video in the left pane shows the pontoon boaters attacking the riverboat captain. The videos on the right show the vengeance of the crowd.

https://twitter.com/shannonsharpeee/...a-reactions%2F

This may not have started out about race, but it looks like it ended up that way.

And, a third time, I believe the boaters are just as culpable as the guy slinging the deck chair. Although they may have a bad excuse, like they're drunk assholes.

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This is proof society has . It will probably only get worse before it gets better. But I won't blame any of the individuals involved because they are just stupid and nothing significant was accomplished. I blame the Government. Don't be fooled this is what they like to see. As long as we act stupid amongst ourselves they can better control each and every one of us. Incidents like this can negatively effect the whole entire country. They want a good excuse to initiate Martial Law, riots, mass disturbances, mayhem in general is all they need and the dumbest fucks amongst us are giving it to them.
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This is proof society has . It will probably only get worse before it gets better. But I won't blame any of the individuals involved because they are just stupid and nothing significant was accomplished. I blame the Government. Don't be fooled this is what they like to see. As long as we act stupid amongst ourselves they can better control each and every one of us. Incidents like this can negatively effect the whole entire country. They want a good excuse to initiate Martial Law, riots, mass disturbances, mayhem in general is all they need and the dumbest fucks amongst us are giving it to them.
Yes, people should get along. This gives government an excuse to clamp down on freedom. And as we've seen in the past, it can hurt businesses, workers, and the taxpayer who has to pay for incarceration and the like.
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Yes, people should get along. This gives government an excuse to clamp down on freedom. And as we've seen in the past, it can hurt businesses, workers, and the taxpayer who has to pay for incarceration and the like.
Civility is all that's required. You aren't required to like any group of people. What is required is to keep your hands to yourself and your mouth shut.
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Old 08-09-2023, 02:10 PM   #58
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Civility is all that's required. You aren't required to like any group of people. What is required is to keep your hands to yourself and your mouth shut.
Well said!
It's that simple.
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Old 08-12-2023, 06:49 AM   #59
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I'll say it again. The white boaters were in the wrong.

What happened next.... All about race.............
What happened next would never had happened if the white boaters could take direction from someone who did not look like them.
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What happened next would never had happened if the white boaters could take direction from someone who did not look like them.
They attacked the white deck hand too, who ended up going to the hospital. That assault may have occurred out of view of the cameras.
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