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Old 12-30-2021, 08:35 PM   #451
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if you believe the "official" numbers then you also believe China's numbers .. the source of the scamdemic and a nation of 1.4 BILLION .. 4 times the US easily .. that only 4,636 deaths? at the very epicenter of the outbreak? in a city with 8 MILLION people? yeah, that's believable, right??


those numbers are as cooked as you leftanistas claim Trump tax returns are


BAHHAHHAAAAAA
Believing one number doesn't automatically mean I believe another to be true. Don't be hilarious.
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Old 12-30-2021, 09:11 PM   #452
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Believing one number doesn't automatically mean I believe another to be true. Don't be hilarious.
Which one do you believe? It’s the same virus. Don’t be hilarious
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Old 12-30-2021, 09:26 PM   #453
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As for the OP, we don't know the answer just yet but it will be larger than the number of people in 2020. Amazing! With all the vaccines, therapeutics, and mandates Biden lost more people than Trump did. I wonder what Biden feels about people who lose 200,000 or more American lives on their watch?
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:18 PM   #454
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Trump 400,000 vs biden 800,000
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:25 PM   #455
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united states coronavirus stats https://g.co/kgs/jP2CC5


I think the good doctor has it over me. Is Fauci a valued member?

Do we have to wait until the end of day? Can you do the math?








There can only be one winner Chiquito.

Eight hundred and twenty-two FUCKIN' THOUSAND!
I guess we should wait until the final numbers are up for December 31, but Eccieuser's undoubtedly going to win this one.

You have to give Adav8s28 a ton of credit though. He's probably going to be closest to the number of people who ultimately die from COVID 19, counting deaths after December 31, 2021. And he and Eccieuser would be neck and neck if we were looking at Excess deaths, being the number of additional people who died because of the COVID epidemic in 2020 and 2021. And finally Adav8s28 went out on a limb. We all made fun of him, and he ended up closer to the truth than everyone, except Eccieuser and Dr. James Lawler.

Preliminary congratulations to the winner, Eccieuser, and Honorable Mention Adav8s28!
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:43 PM   #456
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lawler was the closest to the number in 2020 and by half for 2021. so why should e9500 get the nod?

ada wasnt even close, but his numbers comes close to 2020/2021 totals combined.

anything on the number of cases for 2020/2021?
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lawler was the closest to the number in 2020 and by half for 2021. so why should e9500 get the nod?

ada wasnt even close, but his numbers comes close to 2020/2021 totals combined.

anything on the number of cases for 2020/2021?
The idea was to guess the number of deaths up through and including December 31, 2021, so that’s for 2020 and 2021 combined. The contest wasn’t to guess the number of deaths in 2020 or 2021 alone.

Unfortunately Lawler’s professional reputation would suffer if he were awarded first place in a death guess game on a hooker board. And eccieuser’s accomplishment is greater because he has no background we know of in epidemiology, statistics, virology or immunology
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The idea was to guess the number of deaths up through and including December 31, 2021, so that’s for 2020 and 2021 combined. The contest wasn’t to guess the number of deaths in 2020 or 2021 alone.

Unfortunately Lawler’s professional reputation would suffer if he were awarded first place in a death guess game on a hooker board. And eccieuser’s accomplishment is greater because he has no background we know of in epidemiology, statistics, virology or immunology

so since i'm too lazy to dig into your thread post the numbers again. don't bother with mine, those i know. what did they post? one i thnik was some huge number over 2 million the other closer to the "fake" numbers being reported. so who came closer to the "cooked" numbers?
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Trump 400,000 vs biden 800,000
Kinda like the Electoral College, huh?

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Like the election of 2020, we're never really going to know. Many people died of other causes but were found to have Covid. Covid with a death rate among normal people of less than 1%. Still, Covid was put down on the death certificate as a contributing factor. Like the guy who fell off a house and died. Turned out he had Covid but was asymptomatic. The die hards say that he probably fell because he was feeling bad.
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Old 12-31-2021, 12:28 AM   #461
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Kinda like the Electoral College, huh?



No.
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down boy... yr ur over-fapping.
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so since i'm too lazy to dig into your thread post the numbers again. don't bother with mine, those i know. what did they post? one i thnik was some huge number over 2 million the other closer to the "fake" numbers being reported. so who came closer to the "cooked" numbers?
See Eccieuser's post #448, one page back in this thread. Eccieuser predicted 323,001 deaths, adav8s28 predicted 1,569,600.

Your guess was "less than 63,000." I believe I tried to get you to provide a single number, to be able to compare to other entrant's numbers.

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Like the election of 2020, we're never really going to know. Many people died of other causes but were found to have Covid. Covid with a death rate among normal people of less than 1%. Still, Covid was put down on the death certificate as a contributing factor. Like the guy who fell off a house and died. Turned out he had Covid but was asymptomatic. The die hards say that he probably fell because he was feeling bad.
As to the numbers being fake (The Waco Kid) and people dying of other causes (Barleycorn), you need to explain why there were 503,000 more deaths in 2020 than 2019, while the CDC only chalked up 345,000 deaths in 2020 to COVID. See the table in this link to the Journal of the American Medical Association network,
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

The estimates of "official" record keepers of COVID deaths, like CDC and Johns Hopkins, are lower than excess deaths.

That's why I said if we were counting the number of excess deaths attributable to the COVID pandemic in the USA, adav8s28, with the highest guess (1,569,600) might be the winner.





While we didn't have a contest for the total number of people infected, I bet Dilbert's guess, 90 million, was pretty darn good. The reported number is 54 million cases, but count the people who had COVID and never went in for a test and 90 million may be close to the mark.
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The idea was to guess the number of deaths up through and including December 31, 2021, so that’s for 2020 and 2021 combined. The contest wasn’t to guess the number of deaths in 2020 or 2021 alone.

Unfortunately Lawler’s professional reputation would suffer if he were awarded first place in a death guess game on a hooker board. And eccieuser’s accomplishment is greater because he has no background we know of in epidemiology, statistics, virology or immunology










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As to the numbers being fake ....


The estimates of "official" record keepers of COVID deaths, like CDC and Johns Hopkins, are lower than excess deaths.
When one receives supplemental income and tax break/credits for reporting certain "facts" based on the number of "facts" reported, then there is a motivation to "over" report the "facts" particularly when the reporting party has control of the documentation to substantiate the "facts" reported.

There is a distinctive scientific/medical difference between dying OF Covid (or any disease/illness) and dying while having been tested "positive" for Covid (or any disease/illness).

Now ... one of the physician-scientist-experts posting on Eccie .. please list the physical parts of the body that Covid attacks to result in the death of any given person. Thank you!

That academic exercise is similar to the medical examiner rendering an opinion as to "the manner" of death as opposed to a physician rendering an opinon as to "the cause" of death. There is a distinction with a difference. A critical difference.

Another completely different topic:

"Omicron" .... the CommunistSocialistDNC newly created "PANDEMIC" to justify controlled elections.

I heard a report just the other day that a person died of it in Houston! Died of "Omicron"!!!!

That will be a "scientifc-medical" historical event .... someone died of a sore-throad.
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