demand for GFE vs non-GFE

[CarolinaGent]

I agree, very nice list. Except for the 30 min session part. I usually go for 2 hours these days, except for first time. I usually only book an hour for the first date just to see if they click with me or not.

And as far as in it for the long run we can always hope, but alot of the time it doesn't work out that way. At least we get to enjoy it while it lasts.

[Guest011914-1]

very well stated....a GFE is so much more than just the time you are together...I add my own personal GF touch depending on the gentleman's situation and with each recurring date the mutual trust,respect and intimacy improves within boundaries of course...A hobbyist can tell with the first few minutes if he has a true GFE or a wanna be.....just my thoughts.....

Originally Posted by topsgt38801

I guess my definition of GFE is more so a lady that will engage in conversation, LFK, DFK, cuddling, and not going into a rush of mish, cg, rcg, greek, bbbj,hj, etc. As stated, that is my personal definition and I know many others will have different views on what constitutes a GFE experience. That is also the reason I do not want a 1/2 hour or 1 hour session because it does not give me time to get to know the lady and share some of the intimacies I enjoy prior to really getting into the chase.

The sexual part of it is most enjoyable, but I do love to be able to kiss a lady, caress a lady, talk to a lady and engage in more than sex. All of the items I list for GFE set the stage in my opinion for a better bcd experience. I guess at my level of maturity, sex is icing on the cake and the prepartion for icing the cake is what makes all of it enjoyable. If they are not GFE, I have no problem with that, but that is the reason I check ladies offerings carefully before I will engage in any communication with them or request for a rendevous.

No GFE, no Top!

Top

[incognito isis]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

If a lady told me that up front or in session... just assuming that I wouldn't be able to control myself and get "clingy"...... that session would come to a screeching, halt on the spot. One would have to be awfully full of themselves to assume that would automatically happen and would most certainly go on MY DNS list.

I would never tell a client during the appointment: "if you ask for OTC time I will put you on my DNS list."
-But I do have a stipulation on my advertising website that explains in a respectable way, that I am a paid companion only. Due to safety and privacy reasons, I request all men to respect that and to please understand I'm not here to be your GF. "If you ask me for a relationship or for an unpaid date, I will immediatly stop seeing you." I explain this in a tactful, kind way. Why do I have that stipulation there?? Because of the never ending clingy clients I've had problems with. I'm even having a problem with a client now. Hey I don't know why these guys like me so much, but I will tell you this, my Eccie persona is NOT like my escort one. I will tell you that. I make men feel loved and accepted and satisfied. Ever since I started this gig, I've had nothing but men want more from me. So I don't think there is anything wrong with letting the clients know that I am not here seeking a relationship. If that is offensive to you or anyone else, then so be it. But my privacy and safety comes first. And thats all I'm trying to do with trying to avoid the clingsters from latching on. I put my mouth where my money is and stick to my guns. I've had regulars ask me to go out with them, I said no. So they asked for our usual weekly date, I said sorry Sweety, you asked me to be your GF. It's time for you to find a new lady to meet. Things are obviously out of hand.

Originally Posted by Valerie

The demand for GFE really just depends on the location, in my opinion....In the states, most guys want GFE....In London, they want PSE all the way....

Interesting!

Originally Posted by BabyDallas

Im not full GFE by choice and I know it does put a dent on my buisness SOME, but not much. There is people that tell me they will not see me unless Im full GFE, but Im not changing for anyone. If I do ever decide to be full gfe it will be on my terms not anyone elses. I do what I feel good about doing, If I dont enjoy doing it , it will show in my sessions that Im being fake and that is worse than doing it in the first place. As far as attraching different clientele...You can never say what you may get, its like a box of chocolates you never know what your going to get... lol....You would be surprised! I had a clean older surgeon who would see me 4 times or more a week payed over my asking and wanted BB everything, I refused and he stopped seeing me. I would`ve never expected that from him ,it just goes to show you never know... Just depends on the person and what they like. I have alot of guys that love seeing me cause im so safe, so I guess it evens out for me..

Was he by any chance an Indian man or Asian?

[SweetAlisa20]

Well the term GFE was origanally created to express to the Hobbyist that this experience with her woud not feel like a professional companion, but rather a Girl Friend Eperience...Which most hobbyist prefer, but the term can be misinterpreted...

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

I would never tell a client during the appointment: "if you ask for OTC time I will put you on my DNS list."
[B]-But I do have a stipulation on my advertising website that explains in a respectable way, that I am a paid companion only. Due to safety and privacy reasons, I request all men to respect that and to please understand I'm not here to be your GF. "If you ask me for a relationship or for an unpaid date, I will immediatly stop seeing you." I explain this in a tactful, kind way.

Taking off my mod hat here....Hobbyist hat on....
You can say it or write it anyway you want, but there is no tactful way to get there. For me, there is no way to take that statement other than you assume I will become some blithering idiot with no self-control when I enter your presence. One that can't help but want to shuck everything to be with you forever rather than just be a good fuck for an hour. Pulllleezze! Its an offensive statement anyway you slice it. I don't think most guys are looking for a GF when seeing providers.

This particular subject has been brought up before. And you sure do seem to get really worked up over this one. It also gives me a much deeper look into your feelings towards men in general.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

I would never tell a client during the appointment: "if you ask for OTC time I will put you on my DNS list."
-But I do have a stipulation on my advertising website that explains in a respectable way, that I am a paid companion only. Due to safety and privacy reasons, I request all men to respect that and to please understand I'm not here to be your GF. "If you ask me for a relationship or for an unpaid date, I will immediatly stop seeing you." I explain this in a tactful, kind way. Why do I have that stipulation there?? Because of the never ending clingy clients I've had problems with. I'm even having a problem with a client now. Hey I don't know why these guys like me so much, but I will tell you this, my Eccie persona is NOT like my escort one. I will tell you that. I make men feel loved and accepted and satisfied. Ever since I started this gig, I've had nothing but men want more from me. So I don't think there is anything wrong with letting the clients know that I am not here seeking a relationship. If that is offensive to you or anyone else, then so be it. But my privacy and safety comes first. And thats all I'm trying to do with trying to avoid the clingsters from latching on. I put my mouth where my money is and stick to my guns. I've had regulars ask me to go out with them, I said no. So they asked for our usual weekly date, I said sorry Sweety, you asked me to be your GF. It's time for you to find a new lady to meet. Things are obviously out of hand.

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Taking off my mod hat here....Hobbyist hat on....
You can say it or write it anyway you want, but there is no tactful way to get there. For me, there is no way to take that statement other than you assume I will become some blithering idiot with no self-control when I enter your presence. One that can't help but want to shuck everything to be with you forever rather than just be a good fuck for an hour. Pulllleezze! Its an offensive statement anyway you slice it. I don't think most guys are looking for a GF when seeing providers.

This particular subject has been brought up before. And you sure do seem to get really worked up over this one. It also gives me a much deeper look into your feelings towards men in general.

So going back on thread... will it take a half hour or a full hour to work this out!?

[Still Looking]

People should treat each other with dignity and respect. Beyond that acting a certain way when you don't feel that way? Fake orgasms, passion and compliments... what a waste of time! But hey if a provider wants to fake something, how about you fake needing the money! Refuse it or give it back! Now there is some bull shit I would enjoy!

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

.. "If you ask me for a relationship or for an unpaid date, I will immediatly stop seeing you." I explain this in a tactful, kind way
.....but I will tell you this, my Eccie persona is NOT like my escort one. I will tell you that (phew!! good thing!!)....

So, if I want to date your ECCIE persona (because you are so friggin' interesting!!), can I still go BCD with your escort persona (because well...you know)??

And exactly which persona is GFE?? How many people you got in there anyway??

[surcher]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

I will tell you that. I make men feel loved and accepted and satisfied. Ever since I started this gig, I've had nothing but men want more from me.

But my privacy and safety comes first. And thats all I'm trying to do with trying to avoid the clingsters from latching on. I put my mouth where my money is and stick to my guns. I've had regulars ask me to go out with them, I said no. So they asked for our usual weekly date, I said sorry Sweety, you asked me to be your GF. It's time for you to find a new lady to meet. Things are obviously out of hand.

This is so funny! A regular asks you to have a drink or whatever with him and you consider that asking to be your girlfriend, so you drop him as a client!! Here you're abrasive and bitter towards men, but your escort persona has them dropping at your feet? Get over yourself.

I agree with Chica, it says a lot about how you feel about men.

[Katharine Butler]

How have I never thought to look at the National discussion boards before, there is some Excellent stuff being talked about here, from both ladies and gents!
I'm see'n three topics.
GFE activity based and why say you're a GFE provider if you don't do X, Y, or Z activity? Now, I personally only have intense conversation with you. But, let's pretend more than that happens. I Love all the usually noted GFE activities And I like fetish and fantasy play and greek isle trips, nasty talk and doin it on the balcony and etc... So GFE+PSE would be my category. BUT, I often object to fingers in me if your cuticles are rough. Or, at some points in the month we are more "shallow", oww. I LOVE to kiss. I do Not love to have your whole tongue in my mouth like an eel. I Love daty, but, prefer it harder as opposed to more romantical. So, there are reasons like these that things can happen in a visit or not. yes?
Now GFE non physical. This is why I prefer multi hours and luckily a majorityof my clients do as well. If you only see me for an hour I want to talk to you, get to know you, pet on the couch a little. But, then, do you think i'm trying to run the clock out on conversation?? Do you want to "get to it"? But, if I after 5 min or less of chit chat I'm sliding into something naughty and jump'n on you...do you then feel rushed and non gfe?
It's a tricky thing to manage from this side of the lingerie, let me tell ya!
Then, there's OTC time. *sigh* Very tricky. In my opinion, let Her offer. Let Her ask if you'd like company at lunch or if you want to go for a beer. Or, if you must offer, convey to her that's it a totally open offer, no penalty to her if she refuses. And, mean it. And, take it, if she offers, for the compliment it is and don't expect it again. If I'm comped once at a hotel, I may ask again, but, I don't Expect it. And, the more often I stay, the more likely that comp is......just say'n.
Kat