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Old 02-05-2014, 09:53 PM   #31
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I can just picture a bum with a sign saying I will work for insurance.
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:04 PM   #32
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Republicans idea of working is sitting on their rear end telling other people what to do.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:56 AM   #33
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you didn't answer the question either


will YOU choose to work less rather than work at a part time job caused directly by Obamacare.

How can you choose to work more if your employer is only going to pay you for 29 hours?
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:57 AM   #34
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Republicans idea of working is sitting on their rear end telling other people what to do.
You just described your average democrat.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:02 AM   #35
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You just described your average democrat.
The person you are describing is neither a democrat nor a republican, but a bloated capitalist.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:07 AM   #36
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How can you choose to work more if your employer is only going to pay you for 29 hours?
Fucking idiots never seem to check their so called facts. JD...how can you be a teacher when you can't even understand the source you are citing projections?

http://news.msn.com/us/fact-check-will-obamacare-kill-23-million-jobs

CBO, Feb. 4: In CBO's judgment, there is no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA. On the one hand, there have been anecdotal reports of firms responding to the employer penalty by limiting workers’ hours, and the share of workers in part-time jobs has declined relatively slowly since the end of the recent recession. On the other hand, the share of workers in part-time jobs generally declines slowly after recessions, so whether that share would have declined more quickly during the past few years in the absence of the ACA is difficult to determine.
In any event, because the employer penalty will not take effect until 2015, the current lack of direct evidence may not be very informative about the ultimate effects of the ACA
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:36 PM   #37
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:26 AM   #38
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One thing you have to remember...the CBO is usually off by a factor of 3 so think seven million people losing their jobs.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:23 AM   #39
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One thing you have to remember...the CBO is usually off by a factor of 3 so think seven million people losing their jobs.
You mean 7 million people that have more options. One of which could include starting their own business.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:45 AM   #40
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You mean 7 million people that have more options. One of which could include starting their own business.
Of since you are looking for the "positives" of ObaminableCare .....


7 million job vacancies for 7 million illegal aliens who can vote for liberal candidates.
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Fucking idiots never seem to check their so called facts. JD...how can you be a teacher when you can't even understand the source you are citing projections?

http://news.msn.com/us/fact-check-will-obamacare-kill-23-million-jobs

CBO, Feb. 4: In CBO's judgment, there is no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA.
That's not a "fact" ..... that is an opinion. One of these days you'll figure out the difference.

The BLS doesn't count parttime employment in the employment numbers. So where does the CBO get it's opinion .................... like there is not a "smidgen of evidence of corruption" in the IRS .............. really? Another opinion from the law professor.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:50 AM   #42
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I can just picture a bum with a sign saying I will work for insurance.
The "bums" don't have to work for insurance. They get "Medicaid"!
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:12 AM   #43
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You mean 7 million people that have more options. One of which could include starting their own business.
If they start their own business they'd be working more hours.

We are subsidizing 7MM FTEs of lost productivity and the lost associated taxes.

BTW, probably all the lost 7MM FTE will be from doctors. Thanks Obama.
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That's not a "fact" ..... that is an opinion. One of these days you'll figure out the difference.

The BLS doesn't count parttime employment in the employment numbers. So where does the CBO get it's opinion .................... like there is not a "smidgen of evidence of corruption" in the IRS .............. really? Another opinion from the law professor.
One of these days you will figure out the difference between me pointing out the fact that you are cherry picking numbers and statements from a report and stating a report is factual.

The fact is you and others are using the God Damn CBO numbers as fact 2.5 million job loss! I merely pointed out what else the CBO report said.

None of it is fact. But me pointing out what was Cherry Picked out of the report was indeed fact.

So if you want to say "The CBO stated such and such..." and I counter with "The CBO also stated this..."

It is a fact that I am restating projections of the CBO , just as you are. You can't have it both ways. That is the God Damn fact. You're smarter than that, I should not have to point out subtle but obvious differences.

Did you tell the thread starter that ''That's not a "fact" ..... that is an opinion. One of these days you'll figure out the difference.''

You can't pick and choose what opinion are indeed facts.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:20 AM   #45
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You mean 7 million people that have more options. One of which could include starting their own business.
Quitting work because you can afford to and support yourself is one thing. Quitting so you can live off the hard work of others is wrong.
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