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Old 04-25-2013, 09:49 PM   #31
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You post like it is an all or nothing choice; how about start with stopping the murderous late term and live birth abortions; something that most Americans think are abhorrent. ..............

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You evidently can't read.

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I do not believe in late term abortion. You believe that the morning after pill is murder, planned parenthood brlieves what they believe. You then want to eliminate all abortions, including the morning after pill. This is just political grandstanding by you limited government hypocrites. Taking a play from the NEVER MISS A GOOD CRISIS playbook, huh Whirly!
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Your irrational extension of "limited government" argument to this issue is fucked up.....by that logic I should oppose any state involvement in citizen upon citizen violence...a completely stupid argument.
I believe that you are trying to take a page out of the "Let no crisis go to waste'' playbook.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:28 PM   #32
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Even in an anarchy there would be consequences for killing another living human being. Limited government does not mean murder goes unpunished.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:29 AM   #33
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Frankly, WTF, ain't a one of them creative enough to come up with his (or slunt's) own theories. Most everything they post is cut and pasted from a dubious source, which tells a half truth at best.

What I find amazing is the shamelessness of their lies, falsehoods and misinformation.

It's bullshit like theirs that will all but guarantee the death of the conservative movement as they want it to be.

let 'em rave. This is probably the only place these douchebags can hold court.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:34 AM   #34
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So, killing babies born alive is ok with you, is that correct, Assup? I mean, you're attacking a person who thinks that babies born alive should NOT be killed, so the only conclusion one can reach is that you support killing babies, human beings, born alive. Most places would call that "murder".
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:38 AM   #35
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In the case of a preemptive war, the parties involved all participated (Senate and House voted for it) but it looks like some of these preemptive abortions (what the hell is a preemptive abortion?) had a mother who did not want to complete the procedure. Hell of a difference.


FuckZup is one of yours too.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:18 AM   #36
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Even in an anarchy there would be consequences for killing another living human being. Limited government does not mean murder goes unpunished.
I like Kant's view.

I would call your version more of a republic.


Immanuel Kant on anarchy
The German philosopher Immanuel Kant treated "Anarchy" in his Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View as consisting of "Law and Freedom without Force". Thus, for Kant, anarchy falls short of being a true civil state because the law is only an "empty recommendation" if force is not included to make this law efficacious. For there to be such a state, force must be included while law and freedom are maintained, a state which Kant calls republic.[50][51]

As summary Kant named four kinds of government:
A. Law and freedom without force (anarchy).
B. Law and force without freedom (despotism).
C. Force without freedom and law (barbarism).
D. Force with freedom and law (republic
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