What do you providers base their rates on?

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by grtrader

guess the 2 lines following it mean zero to you right.

Which two lines? Given the number of times you have edited and re-written your posts, I need a GPS for this thread.

In politics they call it it the Potomac Two-Step. If you took a bit more time watching your spelling and grammar, it might be a clever read. Instead, I need an aspirin and some Pepto Bismol for the acid feeling in my gut from reading all of your misogyny.

I know. . .I will just go out and find a ECCIE lady, that will clear my head.



The shameless pun was intended.

[VeronicaMoore]

Dude... you have obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. Your last post pretty much just proved it. LOL

Tell ya what, since you know so much about becoming a successful escort, why don't you just open up an escort consulting company. You take all their earnings and "invest" it for them. Put them up in a place to live (you know, to save money). And keep them from spending too much of their money by giving them the clothes they need and an allowance. hell, you could even save them money on gas by driving them to and from their appointments!

Boy, that sure sounds like a great idea. You'd better jump on it before some other folks get in on it.


OR

How about you just stop trying to give ladies "business lessons." I'm sorry to break it to you, but we're not all elementary school drop outs. I know this doesn't fit into your narrow little fantasy world, but it's true. We can actually read and research things we'd like to know about ON OUR OWN without guidance from some big smart man. Some of us are in school for business management, marketing, finance, etc... some of us have FINISHED school.

I think most of us are pretty intelligent enough to figure out how to set our prices. And those that aren't still know that consulting a HOBBYIST on this is akin to consulting a fox on how to secure a hen house. That's what the ladies advice boards are for.

The tone of this, and so many of the "Why do providers price themselves ____" "Why are there so many broke providers" "Why do/are/should/could providers blah blah blah something something money" threads is completely patronizing. Like us stupid stupid silly little women can't think for ourselves and we need a nice strong smart man to think for us.

Well, gee, mister! Thanks so much for giving us your thinly veiled agenda (what is this website you're trying to get people to join??) ONCE AGAIN being passed off as "advice." I don't know HOOOOOW so many of us managed for SO LONG without consulting you. I have now seen the error of my ways and will now let YOU, Mr. Hobbyist, set my rate so that it fits YOUR specific budget, and Mr. Hobbyist, please tell me exactly who... oh, I'm sorry (that's not a pronoun designated for objects such as grapes, myself and gasoline)... WHAT I should be and how I should act.

[tramp76137]

+1, I like this ladies attitude!

[allofamber]

Originally Posted by VeronicaMoore

Dude... you have obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. Your last post pretty much just proved it. LOL

Tell ya what, since you know so much about becoming a successful escort, why don't you just open up an escort consulting company. You take all their earnings and "invest" it for them. Put them up in a place to live (you know, to save money). And keep them from spending too much of their money by giving them the clothes they need and an allowance. hell, you could even save them money on gas by driving them to and from their appointments!

Boy, that sure sounds like a great idea. You'd better jump on it before some other folks get in on it.


OR

How about you just stop trying to give ladies "business lessons." I'm sorry to break it to you, but we're not all elementary school drop outs. I know this doesn't fit into your narrow little fantasy world, but it's true. We can actually read and research things we'd like to know about ON OUR OWN without guidance from some big smart man. Some of us are in school for business management, marketing, finance, etc... some of us have FINISHED school.

I think most of us are pretty intelligent enough to figure out how to set our prices. And those that aren't still know that consulting a HOBBYIST on this is akin to consulting a fox on how to secure a hen house. That's what the ladies advice boards are for.

The tone of this, and so many of the "Why do providers price themselves ____" "Why are there so many broke providers" "Why do/are/should/could providers blah blah blah something something money" threads is completely patronizing. Like us stupid stupid silly little women can't think for ourselves and we need a nice strong smart man to think for us.

Well, gee, mister! Thanks so much for giving us your thinly veiled agenda (what is this website you're trying to get people to join??) ONCE AGAIN being passed off as "advice." I don't know HOOOOOW so many of us managed for SO LONG without consulting you. I have now seen the error of my ways and will now let YOU, Mr. Hobbyist, set my rate so that it fits YOUR specific budget, and Mr. Hobbyist, please tell me exactly who... oh, I'm sorry (that's not a pronoun designated for objects such as grapes, myself and gasoline)... WHAT I should be and how I should act.

I think I love you....nope scratch that..(tapping foot on floor...looking at your avatar intensely...light bulb going off)..... I WORSHIP you!!! Marry me, we will run the world....

[dirty diana]

Originally Posted by grtrader

I would have been more interested in a reply that stated a method they actually use to calculate there earnings and growth potentials and what they use to determine when a market movement is need in their pricing.

lmao @ how you actually believe that you can dictate how we answer you.

Frankly, I've had plenty flat out tell me already about all they do is jump on the website they are using and try and stay some were in an average of it.
some came of replies about how much hotter than they thought they were than x .... so they asking more. It may or may not be true if they are hotter. It wasn't point it was if they are using any sound basis for proving their pricing and doing any accurate data collection on it.

because you know every provider in the world right?

From what I seen as replies on here, I doubt the data I have collected is going to be over shadowed by some great number that will go I use this method or this one.

rotflmao! do you work for the census bureau?

Sure we are in a down turned market. What will come out of this is a lot of new self made wealth in the end. Always works that way. For those people who decide to take the opertunity and venture a little it can pay off a lot.

While her list is full for stuff she does in a lot really isn't what you would base any value toward your marketable rate. ie Shopping unless your getting paid to be a shopper.

PHP - programming. most escorts have trouble with html CSS and few know even what xml is. But I do say this is a cost factor she can attribute the time she spends setting up page or ads and stuff marketing herself.

right, because most escorts are the same right? you just keep the degrading comments coming don't you

Most don't have accounts and you hire one or few then they should be working for you. Few know the difference between a 401K and a 501K and the difference between and conventional IRA and Roth IRA is not of interest because they haven't the funds to put in it.

The cold fact is most escorts aren't what I would call success at being escorts or they aren't getting wealthy doing it.

this may be hard for you to believe, but we are people. individual people. we come in different shapes, sizes & colors and each individual lady has her own personal measure of success. nobody gives a shit what you would call success, especially after this epic fail of a thread

[grtrader]

Originally Posted by dirty diana

he thinks what we do on a daily basis is a joke. much like most of us think he's an even bigger, more cruel joke. you know, more often than not the ones who wanna talk about money all the time, don't really have any. (or they do but are very cheap)

I personally have never heard anyone question the price of a service that they could afford and enjoyed receiving, unless they couldn't really afford it

Actually, I don't think what you do is a joke by any stretch or means. First, this is a business you are running and that has its work. Top that with a large number doing this are single moms. That is a job in itself I know I'm a single dad. But doing laundry shopping all just part of everyday life we all have to do it clean the hole nine yards. If you are posting on face book or CL you check it a number of times a day to see where you ad is place on the first page. If it is to low or on the back page you decide if you need to run another ad. If you are not getting any calls you consider if you want to lower that price or leave it.... It's a cycle you are doing in between meeting clients who have attitudes bad breath hygiene issue and whatever else. A lot of them are struggling to make ends meet and keep the roof over their heads and food on the table especially for their kids. Between all that yes you have to schedule in those house hold chores change sheets do laundry, go shopping. All while trying to keep yourself presentable. Am I at the 10% mark yet? Yes, throw in all the managine other websites and so on. Getting your car oil changed if you are doing out calls you need it making sure it is legal while you are managing the bills and so on. Again part of everyone's life but still counts.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could make more money and had to work less?
Knowledge is the only answer going to make that change.

Let me ask this how many women have you show how to create a profile and say something as simple as load an image. 1,2,3,4 a dozen or more?
If women are having trouble doing that you honestly expect them to have the knowledge and information on how to properly market themselves.

[ANONONE]

I think he needs a shovel to go with his pick axe.

GR, do you hear that sound? That is the sound of hundreds of ladies putting you on their DNS list. We tried to help you. . .

[atlcomedy]

wow...lot of emotion today....

1) The market is actually pretty darn efficient & corrects itself pretty well.

2) Despite all of your databases and monitoring of websites, your analysis of what is "undervalued" is still just your subjective view of what is important or attractive in a provider. Not good or bad; just yours. Similarly, two shoppers could go into the same grocery store and leave convinced they found great deals even though their shopping carts are completely different.

3) You seem to spend a lot of time at the lower end of the market (CL/BP). Nothing wrong with that per se, but when talking about those gals being undervalued know that there is an inherent discounting in price due to buyer beware/caveat emptor/TGTBT. Because they are not properly credentialed they are worth less (can command less). They could be beautiful, brilliant and the best fuck ever, but this doesn't make them undervalued they are simply priced at market with an appropriate risk discount applied.

[dirty diana]

dude, what the hell are u talking about now? just so you know, lots of us stay away from cl at all costs. and lots of us have degrees that we aren't using because being an escort is more lucrative, so save the whole knowledge is power speech. and uploading pics? come on! we're so dumb we can't even upload a pic now?

[dirty diana]

if you wanna be a bottom feeder, more power to ya! it's your life, live it how u see fit. but don't come here acting like you know it all based on your experience as a bottom feeder

[grtrader]

Originally Posted by VeronicaMoore

Dude... you have obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. Your last post pretty much just proved it. LOL

Tell ya what, since you know so much about becoming a successful escort, why don't you just open up an escort consulting company. You take all their earnings and "invest" it for them. Put them up in a place to live (you know, to save money). And keep them from spending too much of their money by giving them the clothes they need and an allowance. hell, you could even save them money on gas by driving them to and from their appointments!

Boy, that sure sounds like a great idea. You'd better jump on it before some other folks get in on it.


OR

How about you just stop trying to give ladies "business lessons." I'm sorry to break it to you, but we're not all elementary school drop outs. I know this doesn't fit into your narrow little fantasy world, but it's true. We can actually read and research things we'd like to know about ON OUR OWN without guidance from some big smart man. Some of us are in school for business management, marketing, finance, etc... some of us have FINISHED school.

I think most of us are pretty intelligent enough to figure out how to set our prices. And those that aren't still know that consulting a HOBBYIST on this is akin to consulting a fox on how to secure a hen house. That's what the ladies advice boards are for.

The tone of this, and so many of the "Why do providers price themselves ____" "Why are there so many broke providers" "Why do/are/should/could providers blah blah blah something something money" threads is completely patronizing. Like us stupid stupid silly little women can't think for ourselves and we need a nice strong smart man to think for us.

Well, gee, mister! Thanks so much for giving us your thinly veiled agenda (what is this website you're trying to get people to join??) ONCE AGAIN being passed off as "advice." I don't know HOOOOOW so many of us managed for SO LONG without consulting you. I have now seen the error of my ways and will now let YOU, Mr. Hobbyist, set my rate so that it fits YOUR specific budget, and Mr. Hobbyist, please tell me exactly who... oh, I'm sorry (that's not a pronoun designated for objects such as grapes, myself and gasoline)... WHAT I should be and how I should act.

I don't recall ever saying you or any other person didn't know what to do with your money. Frankly I am amazed at how resourceful a lot of ladies are with the limited income they have currently.

Now that said, The topic I was address was the idea of how to force a up hill climb in your profit area even during a market down turn.

Please for give me but could you please point out where I said all. Or perhaps did I use other terms like most, many, a number, some you know those terms that are not all inclusive. Did I also not use them in sentence structures evolving around specific topics again not all encompassing?

If I did I sincerely apologise. But I don't think you will find any. Not like the comments you just left for me putting words in my mouth I did not say and going to a irrational argument I also did not even come close to entertaining. But maybe I am wrong, which as you see at the beginning of this paragraph I apologised for just in case in advance.

[ANONONE]

You know what this thread needs?

A theme song:

MR. BOMBASTIC

[dirty diana]

more like puddle of mudd 'she fuckin hates me'

"i tried too hard and she tore my feelings like i had none, and ripped em away"

[wackatronic]

Originally Posted by grtrader

Another person who attacks with out actually reading. Wow.
It got shit to do with women charging to much it is more about ones charging to little.

Dam hard to believe there are so many illiterate people on here or just lazy and full of assumptions. What is this the womens thing stereo type every guy as if he is trying to get a few bucks off on you.

George

Sounds like a lot of bitter providers! If you don't like the business then GTFO. <------- Using your so eloquent language!

That's two providers that I will never visit regardless.

[dirty diana]

awww, that's so cute. you actually think i care! so effin cute!