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03-21-2024, 07:55 AM
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Louder for the people in the back... trump never had the border secure, either. All he did was take a few photo ops of ICE agents being horrible to asylum seekers, separating parents from children unnecessarily, putting kids in cages... and that was enough apparent cruelty to satisfy his base of hate mongers.
The few photo ops aside, trump's border wasn't secure either.
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No president has effectively secured the border.
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03-21-2024, 08:12 AM
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You fellas are hysterical. Illegal immigration is up 300% under Biden. There were Walking Dead-esque hordes of indigents waiting for the “election” results because they, like everyone else, knew that Biden = a free pass and lots of goodies on the other side. They were right, your refusal to admit the obvious notwithstanding.
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03-21-2024, 08:32 AM
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Some folks act like trumpf completely stopped the illegals.
Total falsehood. It's worse now yeah. But no president has secured the border. Not trump not Ike not washington.
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03-21-2024, 09:25 AM
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You fellas are hysterical. Illegal immigration is up 300% under Biden.
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Illegal immigration .vs immigration?
I'm not sure I'm completely following your line here. Are you saying that the amount of undocumented asylum seekers is up 300%? OR
Are you saying that the amount of illegal entries is up 300% overall?
Reason is- the border patrols have been still gathering up same as before- and although the amount of ppl trying to get in have increased. We still deport those who are non documented asylum seekers, so that's not new; Numbers are up because the places they are fleeing are increasingly bad.
End of day- we need to minimize the amount of asylum seekers being granted access and allowed into the country while awaiting a judges ruling on their request, and we need WAY more judges to get through the pool of requests. That takes money and laws to allow more judges to be hired and limits on the level of folks coming in. (despite EO's that have been constantly sued and lost- due to not being a legislative process.) ((Similar to EO's that were to discharge student debt- if that helps to understand the limits on EO's vs. legislation decisions))
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03-21-2024, 09:32 AM
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Hell anyone with any semblance of common sense knows the border was under control with Trump’s policies, which Biden blew up on day one.
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Under control- isn't really quantitative. Plus weren't those policies partly due to the pandemic and the limitations that were legally allowed due to the pandemic? Some policies that Trump had were good such as remain in Mexico- but no policies on separation of families has EVER been good. BTW- "Leftists" are not in favor of allowing hordes of people into the country either. Apparently that's a talking point on some fringe right news' source. We are all for fair immigration and legal asylum to the US, as is MOST conservatives to my understanding.
Immigration needs a serious over-haul to be Fixed under any administration, policies etc.,- be damned.
There are legal flaws in those terms and they need to shored up to be able to legally deport those who break the immigration laws.
Interpretation of those laws shouldn't be ambiguous in any way, as it seems to be today, with one court ruling in favor or against the current end-state. Jurisdiction seems to be muddling in with state rights vs. federal rules and laws. That could be a fairly easy fix; or with the current congress, an impossible one. Feckless all of them.
Isn't that agreeable?
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03-21-2024, 02:27 PM
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Its our country and our border, landmines are agreeable to me.
OH, that's so horrible right?
They figure about 1K people have died this year trying to illegally enter this country.
Those lives were wasted, why not utilize a thousand lives a year as a detterent?
IF, a few illegals went Kaboom, do you think that would act as a detterent?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Sheeit, "Cops on the border" featuring footage only of the mined areas and nothing else would become a hit overnight.
Costs less than fencing too.
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03-21-2024, 02:39 PM
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Frightening rhetoric above
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03-21-2024, 02:44 PM
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Frightening rhetoric above
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Unbelievable
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03-21-2024, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
BTW- "Leftists" are not in favor of allowing hordes of people into the country either.
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Utterly false
Just look what Senile Biden and the leftists in DC have done to allow hordes of illegals to invade our country
Leftists are totally in favor of it - just look at their actions
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03-21-2024, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Devo
Its our country and our border, landmines are agreeable to me.
OH, that's so horrible right?
They figure about 1K people have died this year trying to illegally enter this country.
Those lives were wasted, why not utilize a thousand lives a year as a detterent?
IF, a few illegals went Kaboom, do you think that would act as a detterent?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Sheeit, "Cops on the border" featuring footage only of the mined areas and nothing else would become a hit overnight.
Costs less than fencing too.
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Interesting idea. You can just see AOC and other namby pamby leftists crying now
I previously suggested one idea that would work when some leftists asked for ideas how to stop it - automated machine guns on top of the border wall. When someone gets within X yards the guns fire warning shots between them and the border along with warnings over a loud speaker to not advance. At that point, they know if they get any closer, well they are now running into the path of gunfire and were adequately warned
Would cut the number of illegals trying to cross to virtually zero
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03-21-2024, 04:02 PM
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I can’t wrap my head around someone being gleeful that law enforcement is disallowed from stopping foreigners from illegally entering the country. WTF is wrong with you people?
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Their likely people living off the government, someone in education, someone employed by a local, state or federal government.
Their scared so bad they may lose an election their supporting millions of illegals for future votes to stay in power.
What some don’t get the more people dependent upon the government their benefits and or wages and lifestyle will eventually be lowered. I say have at it they’ll pay the price one day and complain the most and blame everyone else.
A saying by Forest Gump’s mother fits these people!
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03-21-2024, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Devo
Its our country and our border, landmines are agreeable to me.
OH, that's so horrible right?
They figure about 1K people have died this year trying to illegally enter this country.
Those lives were wasted, why not utilize a thousand lives a year as a detterent?
IF, a few illegals went Kaboom, do you think that would act as a detterent?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Sheeit, "Cops on the border" featuring footage only of the mined areas and nothing else would become a hit overnight.
Costs less than fencing too.
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This is exactly right. A lethal border would save thousands of lives.
My existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
-Col Jessup
-A Few Goon Men
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03-21-2024, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
Frightening rhetoric above
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... Too right, mate.
It'd surely be more humane to did some moats there.
Fill 'em with water... Add some crocs or gators
to "patrol the waters"...
Glad to see the Supreme Court side with Texas!
#### Salty
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03-22-2024, 05:32 AM
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they are comming here for the free biden ride to the promised land.cartel drops them off.
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03-22-2024, 06:06 AM
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