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Old 10-04-2020, 06:51 AM   #31
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Would not put it past him.
His little video was either a fake or he’s “playing it down”.
Won’t matter he’s a loser either way.
Fingers crossed he’s not faking and doesn’t make it
You DPST's are going to choke on your grief when Trump beats COVID-19 and doesn't die.

That which doesn't kill Trump makes him stronger.
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Old 10-04-2020, 06:56 AM   #32
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Well actually from what I've heard from Doctors Covid-19 has never been isolated and purified to establish a Gold Standard for which to compare test results, thus the reason for so many false positives. So if Trump tested Positive for Covid, could it be he tested positive for some sort of virus but not specifically Covid-19? Or maybe he doesn't have anything at all. Most everything we are told from the media is worthy of questioning.

From - the proceedings of 'teh' national Academy of Science

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/17/9241



Materials and Methods

The Global Initiative on Sharing Avian Influenza Data (GISAID) was founded in 2006, and, since 2010, has been hosted by the German Federal Ministry of Food, Agriculture and Consumer Protection. GISAID has also become a coronavirus repository since December 2019. As of 4 March 2020, the cutoff point for our phylogenetic analysis, the GISAID database (https://www.gisaid.org/) had compiled 254 coronavirus genomes, isolated from 244 humans, nine Chinese pangolins, and one bat Rhinolophus affinis (BatCoVRaTG13 from Yunnan Province, China). The sequences have been deposited by 82 laboratories listed in Dataset S1, Supplementary Table 1. Although SARS-CoV-2 is an RNA virus, the deposited sequences, by convention, are in DNA format. Our initial alignment confirmed an earlier report by Zhou et al. (7) that the pangolin coronavirus sequences are poorly conserved with respect to the human SARS-CoV-2 virus, while the bat coronavirus yielded a sequence similarity of 96.2% in our analysis, in agreement with the 96.2% published by Zhou et al. We discarded partial sequences, and used only the most complete genomes that we aligned to the full reference genome by Wu et al. (8) comprising 29,903 nucleotides. Finally, to ensure comparability, we truncated the flanks of all sequences to the consensus range 56 to 29,797, with nucleotide position numbering according to the Wuhan 1 reference sequence (8). The laboratory codes of the resulting 160 sequences and the bat coronavirus sequences are listed in Dataset S1, Supplementary Table 2 (Coronavirus Isolate Labels).
The 160 human coronavirus sequences comprised exactly 100 different types. We added to the data the bat coronavirus as an outgroup to determine the root within the phylogeny. Phylogenetic network analyses were performed with the Network 5011CS package, which includes, among other algorithms, the median joining network algorithm (3) and a Steiner tree algorithm to identify most-parsimonious trees within complex networks (9). We coded gaps of adjacent nucleotides as single deletion events (these deletions being rare, up to 24 nucleotides long, and mostly in the amino acid reading frame) and ran the data with the epsilon parameter set to zero, and performed an exploratory run by setting the epsilon parameter to 10. Both settings yielded a low-complexity network. The Steiner tree algorithm was then run on both networks and provided the identical result that the most-parsimonious trees within the network were of length 229 mutations. The structures of both networks were very similar, with the epsilon 10 setting providing an additional rectangle between the A and B clusters. The network output was annotated using the Network Publisher option to indicate geographic regions, sample collection times, and cluster nomenclature.
Data Availability.

The nucleotide sequences of the SARS-CoV-2 genomes used in this analysis are available, upon free registration, from the GISAID database (https://www.gisaid.org/). The Network5011 software package and coronavirus network files are available as shareware on the Fluxus Technology website (https://www.fluxus-engineering.com/).


L-17 - au contraire - the wuhan virus genome has been meticulously studied in many publications - and there are sub-types and variations - as would be expected in a mutable virus from' te'h coronavirus family.

The information is easily accessible - even on a leftist skewed google search.
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Old 10-04-2020, 07:12 AM   #33
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...I say this Trump COVID diagnosis is fake news, until I'm shown proof.

Fake news. Hmm. I like it.

Weighing in with conspiracy theories now. Are you? Thought that was a right-winger thinger? Changing flags now?
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Old 10-04-2020, 07:19 AM   #34
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You DPST's are going to choke on your grief when Trump beats COVID-19 and doesn't die.

That which doesn't kill Trump makes him stronger.
He’s a cockroach and could survive a nuclear blast.

His brownshirted, goose stepping minions, not so much.

But as you always point out, JL, it’s all about Trump. Never about the people. Never about you.
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Old 10-04-2020, 07:45 AM   #35
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Thought for the day: If "money can't buy me my health", then why have Doctors and hospitals?
Money can buy you some really good doctors and round the clock care like Trump is currently receiving.

But the best medicine is prevention. For any disease.
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:11 AM   #36
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You're not suspicious CT, you're paranoid.
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:29 AM   #37
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:49 AM   #38
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the problem with the test they're using. it can't tell a difference between a live virus or dead virus.


lets just hope trump had just dead viruses that's passing thru his bio system.


chunny is letting his imagination run wild.
Well that was my whole point. Anyone can have a virus in their system at any point in time. I would think the point of the Covid-19 test would be to specifically detect and confirm virus activity within a person specifically caused by the SARS-Cov2 virus. So could a positive test be putting out a random indicator for viral activity not necessarily caused by Covid-19?
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:12 AM   #39
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My post explains my change of heart. The past 24 hours has been a flood of subterfuge, conflicting statements, and a realization of how much Trump stands to benefit. Kennedy, Roosevelt and Eisenhower lied much more about health conditions, why wouldn't Trump, a proficient Liar, do the same?

Your turn. Do you believe Trump caught Covid? I don't think you will be honest, now that I am vectored in agreement with your previous assertion.
Who am I to argue with the professional opinion of dozens of healthcare officials (doctors, nurses, specialists, etc.) that disagree with you Tran. You're that little boy crying in the darkness that the Great Pumpkin will show up this Halloween.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:18 AM   #40
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I don't think he faked it but desperate people do desperate things. Someone as fucked up as Trump will do anything to get reelected so any scenario is plausible with that jackass IMO. I wouldn't put anything past that scumbag to get what he wants.

He is a man with absolutely no moral compass so nothing he does surprises me.
Desperate people like the DNC? I wouldn't put it past them to put Biden or someone in like a Trojan horse to infect Trump. A lot of people from that debate stage are sick now. Remarkable coincidence. I'll give you the name of Dan Savage. He is a radical, left wing, gay personality who writes columns. In 2000, he wrote that while suffering from a rather virulent strain of the flu he tried to infect as many people as possible at Gary Bauer's campaign office by licking or spitting on as many things lying around as he could. Bauer was running for president as a conservative republican. Don't think that germ warfare is beneath the DNC, think again.
We all know that Biden is expendable.
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Old 10-04-2020, 10:37 AM   #41
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He did not fake it,but I think he is trying to play it for sympathy.

Trump is up there with about 20 doctors and all that high dollar medicine.Plus think of all the tests they burned through at the White House in last 6 months when regular people could not get a test.

Right now alot of people have lost jobs and insurance.Plus alot of people have Covid and need care.

Do you guys think it looks good and is now a good time to push to do away with the Affordable Care Act ?

I don't think so.
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Old 10-04-2020, 10:49 AM   #42
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Desperate people like the DNC? I wouldn't put it past them to put Biden or someone in like a Trojan horse to infect Trump.
Here is our Conspiracy Kook!
I am simply suspicious. I haven't decided Trump is faking. Trust but verify. Like any good Republican would do

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He did not fake it,but I think he is trying to play it for sympathy.

Do you guys think it looks good and is now a good time to push to do away with the Affordable Care Act ?

I don't think so.
Nope. We need to do away with Trump. Those of us who pay more than $750 in taxes each year, are paying for Trump's medical care, his team of Doctors, who obviously took the Hypocritical oath, based on their press briefing an hour ago.

By the way, a new NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden leading by 14 points! Huge jump after the debate, but before the Covid positive test. The voters saw that Trump was destroyed in the debate.
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:06 PM   #43
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You DPST's are going to choke on your grief when Trump beats COVID-19 and doesn't die.

That which doesn't kill Trump makes him stronger.



Many people are saying he is pungent
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Old 10-04-2020, 01:11 PM   #44
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Here is our Conspiracy Kook!
I am simply suspicious. I haven't decided Trump is faking. Trust but verify. Like any good Republican would do



Nope. We need to do away with Trump. Those of us who pay more than $750 in taxes each year, are paying for Trump's medical care, his team of Doctors, who obviously took the Hypocritical oath, based on their press briefing an hour ago.

By the way, a new NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden leading by 14 points! Huge jump after the debate, but before the Covid positive test. The voters saw that Trump was destroyed in the debate.
Funny you should use the word verify...so where I'd your verification for your delusion?
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Old 10-04-2020, 01:17 PM   #45
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Funny you should use the word verify...so where I'd your verification for your delusion?
You mean ''is'' and not ''I'd'', I presume?

I'm suspicious. That is not the same as delusion. I have not concluded Trump faked the virus. I asked the question.
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