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Old 10-01-2020, 09:51 AM   #31
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Wired or Unwired is immaterial.

The emotions and beliefs run so high that smart ordinarily reasonable people are ignoring some hardcore political realities here.

Trump and Trumpers - Do Not Have the Votes !!

They are not there this time.
It's over as far as a fair and equitable election.

It only remains to be seen as to whether it will be close enough for Trump to have the gall to challenge the results.
Which knowing him he will probably do so even if he loses in a landslide.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:09 AM   #32
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this election should not be about the candidates for President, or Vice President for that matter. Both Biden and Trump have demonstrated who they qare with regards to character ethics and integrity. In my view, neither of them are any better or worse than any of our previous presidents since 1932 with the possible exception of Jimmy Carter.


Rather, we should vote for the party as a whole; their stated policies and goals with attention paid to what they actually do, the actions they take and what they allow to be done.

With that in mind, please consider the following:


This is No Longer Our Father's Democratic Party


The Democratic party of today is not the party of yur Fathers. The Democratic Party of 2020 is different from what we remember from the past . . .even the recent past.

It is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman who lead us through WW-II. It is not the party of President Kennedy or President Johnson. It is not the party of George McGovern or Hubert Humphrey. It is not the party of President Carter who brokered a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. None of these leaders would support or endorse the Democratic Party of today.

It is not today the party that sought to remake America through legislative programs such as The New Deal, The Great Society or The War on Poverty'. It is not the party that said, " . . .ask not what your country can do for you . . ."

This is not the party of Barbara Jordan or Caesar Chavez, both of whom championed minority rights and opposed illegal immigration. The Democratic Party in 2020 is not the party of Viola Liuzzo or Medger Evers, who each died alone in the cause of civil rights. It is no longer the party of John L. Lewis who lead the march over the bridge at Selma. Nor is it the party of Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young or Jessie Jackson, all of whom knelt over the bleeding body of Martin Luther King as he lay dying of an assassin's bullet.

This is not the party that demanded that the protections and freedoms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights be applied for all persons regardless of their point of view or the color of their skin . . . . and then amended The Constitution to explicitly ensure that universal application of those rights occurred.

Now, as we stand on the threshold of the third decade of the 21st Century, the Democratic Party has moved away from its' liberal roots of the late 20th Century, to become the party of avowed Marxist-Socialists such as Bill de Blasio, Alexandra Ocassio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. The Democratic party of 2020 has endorsed and given massive financial support to violent radical groups, such as Back Lives Matter and Antifa, whose announced intention and goal is to dismantle our society through violence if necessary.

The Party has turned its back on its 20th Century liberal ideals and has instead embraced the radical legacy of Angela Davis, Stokley Carmichael and H. Rap Brown along with Bobby Seal and Abby Hoffman. This is no longer the party of Head Start or The Peace Corps. The Democrat Party has turned away from the non-violent principles of Gandhi as embraced by Dr. King. It has rather turned to the examples of the Weather Underground.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examine of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if that is what they themselves actually stand for today.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:18 AM   #33
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Wired or Unwired is immaterial...
Is it? Why no curiosity of who is crafting those words? Didn't you want to know who was behind the curtain in The Wizard of Oz either? You probably believe those Instagram photos of the gals are real too.


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...It's over as far as a fair and equitable election...
Not yet it ain't. More and more cheating will only close the gap just so much. More are getting caught and the real battle has yet to begin on that front. Shoot howdy, you don't even know who Trump is actually running against with your lack of curiosity to want to know who is pulling the strings, i.e. whispering in Joe-mentia Hiden's ear.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:58 AM   #34
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Trump is the one who has a gap to close.

Are you indicating that more and more cheating by Trump will close the gap just so much ?

My curiosity does not come into play.The American electorate does not have the level of interest or curiosity that you and I may have.

Many of these mundane observances put forth on here do not resonate with the general American electorate.

Trump does not have the votes.
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Old 10-01-2020, 11:07 AM   #35
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Default Talk about conspiracy and collusion

Now even the Michigan State Police are in on the fakery

Michigan State Police locate 25 missing children from Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties with Operation MISafeKid

Michigan State Police, with assistance from the Special Investigation Division Fraud Unit, located 25 missing children from Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties in Operation MISafeKid II. The sweep is part of a strategic plan launched by the MSP Second District to prioritize locating at-risk youth and missing children, MSP wrote in a Twitter post Wednesday.

Troops tracked down background names, photos and last known locations to locate the youth.

The recover cases included a 9-year-old runaway from foster care, as well as two teen girls who may have been victims of sex trafficking...

To be fair, that is only a single article/example of the hundreds of similar operations and arrests that have been occurring regularly over the last 3 years.




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Old 10-01-2020, 11:16 AM   #36
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These annual sweeps for missing and exploited kids started well before Trump became President.
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Old 10-01-2020, 11:24 AM   #37
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:00 PM   #38
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These annual sweeps for missing and exploited kids started well before Trump became President.

yes, but not to the extent we are now seeing.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:06 PM   #39
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looks like the moderator is on the prowl for inappropriate shits.


WYID, I thought you were better than that.



i'd expect mole to be flaming stupid to post crap like that.
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Old 10-02-2020, 09:40 AM   #40
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As AE posted - "Do not feed the Trolls".
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Old 10-03-2020, 10:31 AM   #41
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i perused this thread for the first time today just to see some positive thoughts about voting for geriatric joe . im having an open mind saturday for a change unlike the indoctrinated commie socialists without a clue haters .

sorry , supposed to stay positive (smiley face) forget the above for a sec

anyway other than hating trump (hate is always a good motive for doing anything and always works out well for the hater)
i havent seen a single reason for voting for gjoe on this thread and come on man this is your thread biden bums .

theres three reasons for this empty thread ,

1. bojoe is a stooge and a front for the left and the money democrats , anything he might say isnt necessarily what they want and who they want in front, BUT , hes more sellable than bernie or camel la. Also the hope is he wont look too bumbling and weak so they hope to just keep it as simple as possible so as not to confuse the clown. Anything he might say or believe is irrelevant anyway since hes just a prop and has trouble looking like a leader. Its better to just attack rather than state anything since trump will diffuse it with facts and reality.

2.Everything the left supports doesnt help america or americans, their beliefs are costly and are nothing but power grabs . they will cost trillions, take away freedoms and a government controlled left will intrude in every aspect of your life

The indoctrinated left knows whats behind the curtain and what they entail but they are entralled with some greater good mind fog stirred by emotional pricks. They dont want the fence sitters and the uninformed to see their plans so they change the name , or rebrand or just deny their plans. Its better just to throw out distortions and fears like , they will destroy medicare or preexisting conditions will be gone. Nothing new here they use the same tactic every election hoping people forget.


3. They love their arrogance and that mind fog again of believing they are brains of this country . They accept as fact they are smarter than the average joe so why put it out there. The pawns will project and the media will affirm .Just like the posters on this site they underestimate the hearts , minds and the spirit of america and ignore the freedoms they wish to destroy .

Its open mind saturday so you commies (sorry) take a good read of this post , its an opportunity to get from behind that curtain.
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Old 10-03-2020, 11:48 AM   #42
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100% true ,,,, some kinda collective delusions that the dim-wits got it this time after 50-70 years of failures
Dems want , green deal, socialized med, abortion on demand , open borders, abolishing electoral college, packing the court there way, and ending FREE SPEACH.
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I don't understand how ANYONE CAN AGREE
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Old 10-03-2020, 12:02 PM   #43
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Orange man bad
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Old 10-03-2020, 01:19 PM   #44
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I'm voting for Biden because he will eliminate the payroll tax cut. He will implement the 2 trillion dollar green new deal, which lacks any clear plan. He will raise taxes. He will unite BLM and Antifa. He will suck China's and Russia's cock. He will put America third or second. Free healthcare to illegal immigrants. Open boarders. Increase spending to foreign countries. Plus, he will be taking orders from a woman vice president.
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All good reasons for DPST's to go for a permanent vacation in Venezuela.
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