No not Trump not ever..

[Guest010619]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

There was no reason for the Gulf wars. But is was great for Halliburton and other defense contractors, and the banks who create money and lend at interest. Which "friend" was Nixon trying to help? Why did Reagan lie about trading arms for hostages? What did Cheney and Bush say before the 911 Commission? Why was Bush not allowed to testify by himself? What's in the 28 redacted pages?


Gary Johnson is more of a self made wealthy person than the Donald. Johnson didn't start on third base and then brag about hitting a triple. He took his business acumen to New Mexico for two terms, and lowered taxes and reduced government. No hint of scandal. He wants government out of our lives. He's not perfect, but he's not a liar. Trump, Cruz and Hillary are all liars. Trump will never be President. It will be Hillary or Biden. If you vote for a Democrat or Republican, you will be wasting your vote, because nothing will change.


Your tireless defense of all things Republican reminds me of Fluffy's continual defense of Obama, regardless of facts.

I’d say the last election brought about plenty of change, and not for the better.

[CuteOldGuy]

Can't disagree. Government has been on a downward slide for decades. Each President worse than his predecessor. That won't change. The next President, Democrat or Republican, will be worse than Obama.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

There was no reason for the Gulf wars. But is was great for Halliburton and other defense contractors, and the banks who create money and lend at interest. Which "friend" was Nixon trying to help? Why did Reagan lie about trading arms for hostages? What did Cheney and Bush say before the 911 Commission? Why was Bush not allowed to testify by himself? What's in the 28 redacted pages?


Gary Johnson is more of a self made wealthy person than the Donald. Johnson didn't start on third base and then brag about hitting a triple. He took his business acumen to New Mexico for two terms, and lowered taxes and reduced government. No hint of scandal. He wants government out of our lives. He's not perfect, but he's not a liar. Trump, Cruz and Hillary are all liars. Trump will never be President. It will be Hillary or Biden. If you vote for a Democrat or Republican, you will be wasting your vote, because nothing will change.


Your tireless defense of all things Republican reminds me of Fluffy's continual defense of Obama, regardless of facts.

The First Gulf War was about Hussein invading Kuwait and threatening the oil fields of Saudia Arabia. You will say that SA should defend it's own oil fields but we've defended the area and their military has not gone much beyond being a toy for some Saudi prince. It can't fight an army.

The Second Gulf War was because Hussein did not hone the cease fire he signed and he claimed to have WMDs.

You can argue if they were necessary but that is why they were fought. It's another broken record to blame Halliburton. Pick a new song.

The "friends" that Nixon tried to help were the idiots who broke into the DNC offices. Nixon never authorized it but felt that they did it for him and so he tried to run interference...and crossed a line.

You really don't want the world to know that you paid off terrorists do you?

What exactly do you think Bush and Cheney should have testified to? Don't leave us hanging. What do you want to hear?

Sounds like your describing John Kasich but that can't be because you said that ALL politicians are liars. Wait! Johnson is a politician by your own admission...so he must be a liar. Ready to retract your statement?

A vote for someone who can't win is a good vote? I don't get that logic. How about making a $1000 bet on a team that can't win the Super Bowl. How does that strike you?

[i'va biggen]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...yn-kellys-show

The Trumpster, and his obsession.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

where do you live? clarksville? = jewville. because you live there. Turd.

You're a despicable bigot, WaKKKo KKKid. And you deserve to have your ass beaten by someone's bare fists.

We'll see where this goes. Maybe all the way to Israel, where JL defected. Maybe your terroristic rhetoric will result in other action.

Heil Trump, right?

To quote my co-religionist Richard Friedman -- They ain't making Jews like Jesus anymore.

[i'va biggen]

Maybe the will ban the antisemitic prick for good on that one.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You're a despicable bigot, WaKKKo KKKid. And you deserve to have your ass beaten by someone's bare fists.

We'll see where this goes. Maybe all the way to Israel, where JL defected. Maybe your terroristic rhetoric will result in other action.

Heil Trump, right?

To quote my co-religionist Richard Friedman -- They ain't making Jews like Jesus anymore.

so you are admitting you aren't up for the job eh old man? never send an old man to do a young man's job yeah? TURD.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Maybe the will ban the antisemitic prick for good on that one.

don't hold your stink breath on that dicknose. well, actually DO keep your mouth shut, we're tired of smelling your ass every time you speak.

how many times have i affirmed Israel's right to exist in this forum? can you count that high littleEva? probably not.

AssupRider is the one who needs to watch out. he knows what he did. maybe if i give a fuck i'll report him to the mods. would that make you happy KansASS Chimp?

[IIFFOFRDB]

All the way to Israel, Urinal Lips the Scat Aficionado... Bare fists are not a problem, Urinal Lips the Scat Aficionado...


WHY ISRAELI JEWS ARE CONSERVATIVE AND AMERICAN JEWS ARE LEFTIST

The Left lost in Israel, but still rules over American Jews.
March 17, 2016 Daniel Greenfield

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.

The Israeli left as a democratic political movement is dead. That piece of bad news was delivered by a recent survey which shows that only 8% of Israeli Jews identify with the left, 55% with the center and 37% with the right.

In the last election, the establishment Labor Party had to dress up as a wolf in Zionist centrist clothing by renaming itself the Zionist Camp (it still lost). The left had to create two other fake centrist parties to stop Netanyahu, but just ended up having to roll them into his center-right coalition.

The Israeli left still controls the usual undemocratic elitist outposts of the Deep State, media, academia, popular culture and the judiciary, but it can no longer even call itself the left and still hope to win. All it can do is undermine the will of the people and sabotage the country out of selfishness and spite.

The situation in Israel stands in sharp contrast to the United States where 49 percent of Jews lean to the left, 29 percent tend to the center and only 19 percent identify as conservative.

It’s a popular and simplistic conclusion on both the left and the right to attribute this split to terrorism. But if Muslim terrorism made people move to the right, New Yorkers would all be Republicans. And until the latest Knife Jihad, the Israeli right’s policies had ended Islamic terrorism as an everyday problem.

The Israeli left’s disastrous peace process with terrorists, which killed more Israelis than the Six Day War, helped discredit it, but it’s far from the whole story. The Israeli left didn’t suddenly implode because of PLO deal. It made the deal with the terrorists because it had been losing elections left and right.

The Israeli left had gone from dominating Israeli politics for thirty years to losing its grip in the seventies. By the eighties, the Israeli left was dying. For the last fifteen years, every Israeli prime minister has come out of the conservative Likud party (even if he didn’t always stay there.)

The rise of the Israeli right was fueled by immigrants. It still is. The Israeli left had set up its Socialist utopia of intertwined labor unions, collective farms, social welfare and political organizations in which your ability to earn a living depended on your political ties to the left. Holocaust survivors were violently assaulted by leftist thugs as soon as they reached the shore if they didn’t belong to the left. Middle Eastern Jewish refugees encountered a bigoted leftist system that viewed them as only slightly better than animals. Russian Jews fleeing the USSR often found an equally hostile welcome waiting for them.

These groups helped topple the left from power. The Holocaust survivors had been fleeing National Socialism. Middle Eastern Jews had fled Arab Socialist dictatorships. Russian Jews had escaped the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Socialism had few positive connotations for them. And the discrimination they encountered from the left as soon as they arrived convinced them to join the right.

The left had always understood that Jewish immigration to Israel posed the biggest threat to its rule. It needed immigrants, but it also hated and feared them. And they learned to hate it back. In the United States, first-generation and even second-generation immigrants make up a much smaller proportion of the American Jewish population than they do in the Israel. And, like their Israeli counterparts, first-generation Jewish immigrants in America from the USSR or Syria tend to be politically conservative.

That’s part of the story. But it’s also not the whole story. To see the rest of it, we have to look at American Jews. You can predict the politics of American Jews based on their religiosity.

60 percent of Jews who attend weekly religious services disapprove of Obama. Only 34 percent approve. Among those who don’t attend religious services, approval stands at 58 percent to 38 percent. In Israel, the left finds its greatest support among secular Jews and the right hits its best numbers among religious Jews. left-wing identification in America is 50% higher among Jews of no religion. The number of American Jews of no religion has tripled since 2001. Meanwhile the Israeli secular population is declining.

Twice as many Israeli Jews as American Jews believe in G-d. What do American Jews who don’t believe in G-d believe in? Usually the answer is Obama. Or in Israel, a fantasy of peace with Islamic terrorists.

Secularism does not in and of itself translate into leftist politics. Even secular Israelis are more likely to identify with the right than with the left (though by a much smaller margin). But secularism does create a vacuum that the left is quite adept at filling with its cults of personality, political messianism, pseudoscientific doomsdays and apocalyptic struggles for the future of mankind.

The American Jewish left is the product of a spiritual vacuum. It is a decadent movement of the directionless, of the neurotically unhappy needing validation and narcissists clamoring for attention. It has no real challenges to grapple with and so it immerses itself in borrowed sufferings and ennobles itself by lecturing others. There is nothing Jewish about the Jewish left. That is the whole point.

American and Israeli Jews exist in fundamentally different political, economic and religious contexts.

Both American and Israeli Jews have an immigrant narrative, but their narratives are very different. The Israeli immigrant narrative began with a pioneer story of settlers clearing land for settlements and fighting off savages. This resembles the American pioneer narrative, but has little in common with an American Jewish narrative of modern urban immigration. While American Jews also went west, built cabins, farmed, mined and were scalped, their narratives were discarded for social justice reasons.

To many American Jews, land is not finite and there is no reason to fight anyone over it. But tell that to a Jewish farmer or herder on a plot of land overlooking a terrorist encampment. His life has less in common with New York than with a Texas outpost before a Comanche Moon or Afghanistan.

The next phase of the immigrant narrative ended very differently in America and Israel. In America, the left won its struggle with poor religious Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe whose descendants became secular leftists raised to think of the Democratic Party as their religion. In Israel, the left lost its struggle with poor religious Jewish immigrants from the Middle East despite using every dirty trick.

The fall of the left in Israel reflects a country where the struggle between religion and the left, between immigrants and political elites, ended with a fundamentally different outcome than it did in America.

Generations of American Jews have been indoctrinated to think of left-wing ideas as elementally Jewish. They are unaware of any conflict between their ideas and their origins. But to many Israeli Jews, left-wing agendas are antithetical to Jewish values. Middle Eastern Jewish refugees and Soviet Jews had to defy the left to remain Jewish.

Finally in the economic context, Israel has opened up economic opportunities by moving away from the left to a more open economy. Americans have never lived under Socialism and so are more willing to believe the empty promises than people who have suffered under the real thing.

American Jews define themselves by a progressive narrative of struggling for equality. In Israel, the struggle for equality for a majority of Jews was a struggle against the left. The left has taught many American Jews to view religious devotion and nationalism as evils. In Israel, they are virtues.

All of these combined created very different cultural contexts. American and Israeli Jews both felt vulnerable, but the former responded to it by becoming less Jewish and the latter by becoming more Jewish. Israeli Jews have found strength in becoming more Jewish. American Jews have only found neurosis and spiritual emptiness in becoming more leftist.

And so the left lost in Israel, but still rules over American Jews.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2621...iel-greenfield

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The First Gulf War was about Hussein invading Kuwait and threatening the oil fields of Saudia Arabia. You will say that SA should defend it's own oil fields but we've defended the area and their military has not gone much beyond being a toy for some Saudi prince. It can't fight an army.

The Second Gulf War was because Hussein did not hone the cease fire he signed and he claimed to have WMDs.

You can argue if they were necessary but that is why they were fought. It's another broken record to blame Halliburton. Pick a new song.

The "friends" that Nixon tried to help were the idiots who broke into the DNC offices. Nixon never authorized it but felt that they did it for him and so he tried to run interference...and crossed a line.

You really don't want the world to know that you paid off terrorists do you?

What exactly do you think Bush and Cheney should have testified to? Don't leave us hanging. What do you want to hear?

Sounds like your describing John Kasich but that can't be because you said that ALL politicians are liars. Wait! Johnson is a politician by your own admission...so he must be a liar. Ready to retract your statement?

A vote for someone who can't win is a good vote? I don't get that logic. How about making a $1000 bet on a team that can't win the Super Bowl. How does that strike you?

You're simply a yellow dog Republican with no greater intellectual capacity than eatfido or Fluffy. Keep twisting my words. Then you're like WPF. Oh, and keep believing Fox News. It will keep you "fair and balanced".


I will vote for who I think will do the worst job of destroying my country. As it stands, any Republican or Democrat will do a very good job of destroying my country. I won't vote for them. But you keep your rose-colored glasses on, and ignore the truth, and happily vote for whoever the RNC tells you to. Welcome to Amerika.

[i'va biggen]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b065e2e3d7ee82


Barnum and bully.

[CuteOldGuy]

In Trump's defense, even though I don't support him, he is not inciting violence at his rallies. Many of those "protesters" are paid rent-a-mobs hired by the left. Trump supporters don't want violence. They want to listen to him.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I am not voting for Clinton because she is a liar. I am not voting for Clinton because she is a known criminal as well.


Jim

You see her as a known criminal?

I guess that makes sense coming from a guy who sees himself as a fiery comet.
Perfect sense since a comet is made up of mostly rocks, ice, and frozen gases.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

In Trump's defense, even though I don't support him, he is not inciting violence at his rallies. Many of those "protesters" are paid rent-a-mobs hired by the left. Trump supporters don't want violence. They want to listen to him.

Some people will defend anything, even if they can't document it. Are you a closet Trumpazoid dull knife?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

You see her as a known criminal?

I guess that makes sense coming from a guy who sees himself as a fiery comet.
Perfect sense since a comet is made up of mostly rocks, ice, and frozen gases.

You should read your post a few times over. It really sounded stupid. Clinton is a criminal, don't be fooled by that bitch.


Jim