Lawrence v Texas- Cops cannot set up escort sting without warrant!!

[texan361]

Under your theory anyone who advertises an illegal activity can put a "no law enforcement allowed" which then would require the police to obtain a warrant to enter the premises to arrest the person committing the illegal activity. You would be right if when the police (or undercover) is not allowed into the location, and thus no allowed to commit a crime or witness criminal activity inside the location. But if the person committing the crime allows the police or undercover to enter and commits a crime they can be arrested right then and will not have a viable argument in regards to a warrantless arrest argument. Clearly no violation of the 4th Amendment.

Your entrapment argument makes more sense. It will be defeated, however 90% of the time as it is fact dependent and relies on the totality of the circumstances. Typically the cops have to make a brazen mistake in order for you to prevail on this argument.

[1980saguy]

Originally Posted by frontman667

[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]I made a decision to learn from militia members, sovereign citizens, and patriots.

The same militia members, sovereign citizens and patriots who get laughed out of court and often times are arrested (see generally the IRS tax protesters) for their wildly inaccurate reading of the law?

[frontman667]

Sovereign Citizens, militia members, patriots, tax protester, etc. are the people you want in the hobby and escort community. They get sting by the cops in an escort-hobby sting and then hell will break loose.

You want anti-government people in the hobby and escorting community who will delay court proceedings, file common law liens, file lawsuits, etc. That will make the other side think twice. The sovereign citizen, patriots, militia member, etc. legal theories may not 100% correct but the application of the legal theory creates a legal mess.

Yes, the attorneys may be 100% correct in their legal advice and application of legal theory but it doesn't make the sting team think twice before doing a sting. When the government knows these radicals are in the hobby and escorting community, then they will have to make sure they are very careful and think twice.

Fighting over right to sex work is a better use of resources than fighting over traffic regulations. If you met an sovereign citizen, militia members, patriots, etc., ask them to switch over to escort-hobby litigation. This will occupy their time so they are not going to have time to litigation over traffic regulations.

[jframe2]

Are you FRICKIN' kidding me! I do not want any of this kind in the hobby. All you do is attract attention. And not in a good way.

This whole movement is losing ground; civil clerks are refusing to accept their paperwork; judges and attorney's are wising up and stopping them before they cast their shadow in court.

Just take this drivel somewhere else and stay out of my hobby!

Or better yet, practice what you preach and go get yourself busted, try your out-of-this world theories and let us know how it turns out.

Self-edited the rest because it was definitely going to get me pointed.

Originally Posted by frontman667

Sovereign Citizens, militia members, patriots, tax protester, etc. are the people you want in the hobby and escort community. They get sting by the cops in an escort-hobby sting and then hell will break loose.

You want anti-government people in the hobby and escorting community who will delay court proceedings, file common law liens, file lawsuits, etc. That will make the other side think twice. The sovereign citizen, patriots, militia member, etc. legal theories may not 100% correct but the application of the legal theory creates a legal mess.

Yes, the attorneys may be 100% correct in their legal advice and application of legal theory but it doesn't make the sting team think twice before doing a sting. When the government knows these radicals are in the hobby and escorting community, then they will have to make sure they are very careful and think twice.

Fighting over right to sex work is a better use of resources than fighting over traffic regulations. If you met an sovereign citizen, militia members, patriots, etc., ask them to switch over to escort-hobby litigation. This will occupy their time so they are not going to have time to litigation over traffic regulations.