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Old 02-07-2013, 01:58 AM   #31
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You must not be aware of the fact that your profile page shows the last time you logged in.........these retards have been watching you watching them since this started.....your silence has been deafening to them.

Trust is a precious commodity.......once it is gone, it is next to impossible to get it back.

Where do you go from here? Do you use your modtard abilities to censor your detractors? Do you act like it never happened and force your local forum to live with it?

I don't know if you did any of the stupid shit you are accused of. I do know you put yourself in a position where the accusations have traction......then, sat in silence......waiting to see if there were any accusers........now, you come forward with some belated indignation?

You would have been better served to climb on your war horse during the heat of battle.
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01-23-2013 10:37 AM

lets play a guessing game????????
well he did take a break from logging on when I posted this in the AR sandbox. First date was last post till this post. Second date was last log in. Before that 2nd date was logged in almost daily. Wish I keep a record of that now
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:04 AM   #32
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Has there been "one provider" speak in offense.... "first hand"?
No. Absolutely no. Your point has been made repeatedly and is understood. You are the ablest defender. Will you stake your reputation that nothing said is true?
Do you have the confidence to refute all that has been said? That is the crux of this issue. Does anyone have that confidence? Confidence is important in any position of trust.
I will put my money where my mouth is. If you will say, "I know beyond the shadow of a doubt these allegations are false," Just your opinion. I will guest my account and never again appear on this board in any guise. This is a golden opportunity.
Do you have the confidence to take it?
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:04 AM   #33
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WKing is not Giz's strong suit.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:28 AM   #34
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. . . . Will you stake your reputation that nothing said is true? No... I have no reference of proof!
Do you have the confidence to refute all that has been said? No... but I have the confidence to question, without proof!

I will put my money where my mouth is. If you will say, "I know beyond the shadow of a doubt these allegations are false," Just your opinion. I will guest my account and never again appear on this board in any guise. This is a golden opportunity. Do you have the confidence to take it? * NO.... I do not! * But, do you have the confidence to say "I know beyond a shadow of a doubt these allegations are true?"
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:36 AM   #35
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What I am saying is what you are saying. We don't have confidence in this moderator, but we should have.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:50 AM   #36
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WRONG !!
We are not saying the same thing!

I have witnessed a few questionable moderators. . . . on more than this one relatively "new" website. But I have always waited to actually "witness" questionable behavior, before buying into popular condemnation by others.

The only real fact that remains, is.... NOBODY has come forth to put their name (or handle) on the line to "validate" any/or all of the alleged charges.

If I ever receive any depositions from supposed victims. . . I will assess.

Until that happens.... well.... you know.....

BTW.... you haven't answered my last question.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:09 AM   #37
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well he did take a break from logging on when I posted this in the AR sandbox. First date was last post till this post. Second date was last log in. Before that 2nd date was logged in almost daily. Wish I keep a record of that now

All you would have to do is log out and you could come here daily and no one would know.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:06 AM   #38
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All you would have to do is not log out and you could come here daily and no one would know.
Fixed that for you
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:30 AM   #39
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All you would have to do is not log out and you could come here daily and no one would know.
Fixed that for you
yup, the fixed quote it right

mmmmmmm we seem to be back at errrr never mind for now
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:14 AM   #40
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"Coed Discussions - Arkansas Hobby-related discussions belong here. Let's keep these discussions on-topic, thought-provoking, and more importantly...entertaining!"

ahhhhhh A+ on entertaining
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:29 AM   #41
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Why have "certain parties" only informed a "certain few"?

I guess you missed that memo to be in the loop on this one.

But really I have no idea.

And I'm sticking to that one.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:46 AM   #42
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Certainly where there is smoke, there is fire. Also, silence may be viewed as gult or acceptance. However, niether of these are finite. I agree that the moderators must have the board's trust in order to moderate effectively. However, these are mere accusations of wrongdoing and violations of power. They are serious, but accusations. Several of us have not heard anything related to this wrongdoing.

A lady must step forward and tell their story. Not to the board, but to a mod. There needs to be an answer if the members are to move past this. Second and third hand accounts never have credibility because they are either often wrong or misleading. If the lady has told you a story, she is telling you the story she wants you to hear.

I do not think the AR board will implode, but without a resolution, it might.

What really steams my clams is that this hobby world is supposed to be fun, and this topic is not. It is a shitty witch hunt without evidence. Maybe the prudent way to proceed is to quietly investigate and then take decisive public action.

At the end all we have is mere speculation.

"The mother of all evil is speculation" -- Gordon Gekko
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:49 AM   #43
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Maybe I should stay in Ohio, there seems to be a lot of drama in Arkansas.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:24 AM   #44
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Certainly where there is smoke, there is fire. Also, silence may be viewed as gult or acceptance. However, niether of these are finite. I agree that the moderators must have the board's trust in order to moderate effectively. However, these are mere accusations of wrongdoing and violations of power. They are serious, but accusations. Several of us have not heard anything related to this wrongdoing.

A lady must step forward and tell their story. Not to the board, but to a mod. There needs to be an answer if the members are to move past this. Second and third hand accounts never have credibility because they are either often wrong or misleading. If the lady has told you a story, she is telling you the story she wants you to hear.

I do not think the AR board will implode, but without a resolution, it might.

What really steams my clams is that this hobby world is supposed to be fun, and this topic is not. It is a shitty witch hunt without evidence. Maybe the prudent way to proceed is to quietly investigate and then take decisive public action.

At the end all we have is mere speculation.

"The mother of all evil is speculation" -- Gordon Gekko
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:30 AM   #45
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Certainly where there is smoke, there is fire. Also, silence may be viewed as gult or acceptance. However, niether of these are finite. I agree that the moderators must have the board's trust in order to moderate effectively. However, these are mere accusations of wrongdoing and violations of power. They are serious, but accusations. Several of us have not heard anything related to this wrongdoing.

A lady must step forward and tell their story. Not to the board, but to a mod. There needs to be an answer if the members are to move past this. Second and third hand accounts never have credibility because they are either often wrong or misleading. If the lady has told you a story, she is telling you the story she wants you to hear.

I do not think the AR board will implode, but without a resolution, it might.

What really steams my clams is that this hobby world is supposed to be fun, and this topic is not. It is a shitty witch hunt without evidence. Maybe the prudent way to proceed is to quietly investigate and then take decisive public action.

At the end all we have is mere speculation.

"The mother of all evil is speculation" -- Gordon Gekko



Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.--Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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