Sexual Addiction

[captnzen]

Sex addict? Puts me in mind of one of the Jurassic Park films where the park's hunter/gameskeeper is trying to stalk a raptor...thinks he's got one in his sights and has the situation under control.....and another raptor sticks its head through the underbrush just a few feet from our hero. He gets to say "clever girl"...just before the raptor rips him limb from limb...

[Maggie McNeill]

The Honest Courtesan wrote her column on this today: http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2...-nor-epidemic/

Here's a really good quote from it:

…The sex-addiction concept is a belief system, not a diagnosis; it’s not a medically supported concept. The science is abysmal…over the past year or two, [proponents of the sex addiction model] have started trying to use brain science to explain it. They’re now talking about morphological changes that supposedly happen in the brain as somebody watches porn or has too much sex. The reality is, careful scientists will tell you they are absolutely unable to identify any brain differences between these alleged sex addicts and non-sex addicts…[and] that the brain changes constantly — any behavior that a person engages in, especially repetitively, changes your brain. So, identifying changes related to this sexual behavior and distinguishing it from anything else is absolutely ridiculous…They are typically unable to put forth a healthy model of sexuality, and when they do, it is so transparently conservative and religiously driven that it’s frightening. Most of the leaders of the sex-addiction movement are themselves recovering supposed sex addicts and religious folks…what they’re advocating for is a moral system, not a medical one. For a while, they were pushing the idea that if you had an orgasm once a day, every day, that made you a sex addict...For every one of the behaviors they raise as addictive — whether it’s porn, strip clubs, masturbation, infidelity, going to prostitutes — I can present 10,000 people who engage in the exact same behavior and have no problems, and they can’t explain why that is…This is a moral attack on sexuality…They [want] people to…develop fear of sex. Because they think that if we’re not afraid of sex, people are going to go out and have lots of sex. God forbid.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by LadyRed

I'm not an addict but if I was arrested it would be my defense..I don't deserve fines or jail. I need therapy! Get me in that 12 guy program!!!

Would there be a 12 lady program for the fucktards? Please send a web linck.

[Fast Gunn]

Thanks for that point of view, Angel.

There may be some controversy regarding the subject, but I would recommend that you read the article in Newsweek Dec 5 issue, that presents a more balanced report.

The stories of numerous people whose lives were destroyed by sex addiction are chronicled.

One of the interesting points made is that sex addicts are similar to drug addicts in that they form a dependency on the pleasure-center neurotransmitter, dopamine.

[Naomi4u]

I'm with Carrie on this one. While I enjoy sex, I am not compulsive about it.
In fact, I do not have sex in my personal life and haven't for months.
The only sex I have is as an escort (by choice). The poll is telling. I also believe there
are a few that are sex addicts and don't even know it and those are the most dangerous ones. The first step to diagnosing a problem is admitting that you have one.

[bigdaddy354369]

The main reason a man becomes a hobbies is. Because he's not being taken care of at home. Then it starts. He finds out how easy it is to get what he wants. Woman take care of your man he will stay home if then provider will.

Its fun being single now no ball and chain to hold me down. Life to short enjoy every minute of it

[Fast Gunn]

I think you head the nail on the nail, Zarah. The person who has the problem is sometimes the last one to admit it or even recognize it.

I think that is why that tongue-in-cheek comment was made earlier on this thread by the lady that quipped "I can stop anytime I want to".

. . . To be successful, a life needs balance, but just about anything can be used as a crutch to avoid dealing with one's inner demons.

Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

I'm with Carrie on this one. While I enjoy sex, I am not compulsive about it.
In fact, I do not have sex in my personal life and haven't for months.
The only sex I have is as an escort (by choice). The poll is telling. I also believe there
are a few that are sex addicts and don't even know it and those are the most dangerous ones. The first step to diagnosing a problem is admitting that you have one.

[London Rayne]

Addiction is not only defined by something that puts you in the poor house. I am addicted to Malboro Lights but it's never come before paying my mortgage lol. When something consumes your mind to the point of it affecting how you work, act, and think that's a problem.

When you can no longer look at a woman without taking her clothes off in your mind, you have a small problem. Porn and the hobby both add to those thoughts, as we are constantly bombarded with these images. I won't go into a Biblical explanation, but for those who want to stop thinking about something, they need to think about something else.

Addiction of any form, starts and ends in the MIND...always has. You can't really do something without a tiny thought happening first, then you have 2 choices...go with the thought and focus on it, or do on purpose to think about something else. Where the mind goes the man follows. If you are on a diet and all you think about is hot fudge and pizza, odds are you are going to end up calling Papa Johns. Same with sex...if all you do is think about it, you're going to end of acting on it.

Adultery does not "start" when the guy puts his weenie in you..it started with a thought he continued to focus on and eventually allowed that thought to drown out proper judgement. If more people had control over their emotions and impulses instead of letting them control their body, we would not have so many addictions. Free will...it is a biaaatch.

[guest010313]

I'm definitely a sexual compulsive. And the more sex I have, the more I want. While this could potentially get me into trouble, between work and a couple of reliable fuck buddies I'm not ruining my life running around trying to get laid.

I will say that it has gotten me in trouble in the past. I have made some DUMB decisions but I came out of it all with a better sense of where my lines are.

[Booster]

I chose the first option, because that is ..

[TexTushHog]

Most serious clinicians don't believe that there is any such thing as sex addiction. It was considered and rejected as a diagnosis for the on going revisions of the Fifth Edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V). If a sexual fixation disrupts one's life sufficiently, some clinicians will list it under Sexual Disorder Not Otherwise Specified, but even that very much is up in the air.

If you're actually interested in some of the real science, rather than pop psychology, here is a brief interview that is unfortunately very superficial, but will acquaint you with the issues.

http://life.salon.com/2011/11/29/don...ddiction_hype/

And AngelOK, for the record, the quote that you except is actually from the Salon.com article I have posted. It was quoted, with proper attribution, by Honest Courtesan in her commentary on this subject. I doubt you meant to mislead, but one might infer from your quote that she wrote what you excerpted, whereas in her blog, she was careful to attribute it to the actual author, David Ley, a clinical psychologist in Albuquerque, NM who has published widely on this topic.

[London Rayne]

So what if "they" don't believe it...it's obvious many people have fked up their lives because of the need to screw anything with a pulse. Call it whatever you want, but it's still a problem for many people...thus the reason for the damn hobby!

[Fast Gunn]

Personally I believe that sexual addiction is a very real problem even if some doctors want to quibble about the precise definition.

I do not think that 9 million people out there are just "faking" symptoms when their lives are falling apart because of this uncontrollable urge they are compelled to quench.

Most teenagers, I think qualify as sex addicts, but thankfully, most of us grow out of it once our hormones come back into balance.

The adults that continued their addiction are using sex as other drug addicts do their drugs to escape the harsh reality of life and seek pleasure.

It's insidious because it just doesn't feel like a problem at first because it seems normal and virile, but pretty soon you live only to feed the monster.

. . .Now it has got you by the balls!

[shorty]

This is no different than any other addiction. Granted a sexual addiction can lead to sexual exploitation of young girls and boys. Once this happens, then their a threat to society and be dealt with accordingly by LE.

[Maggie McNeill]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Personally I believe that sexual addiction is a very real problem even if some doctors want to quibble about the precise definition.

I do not think that 9 million people out there are just "faking" symptoms when their lives are falling apart because of this uncontrollable urge they are compelled to quench.

Most teenagers, I think qualify as sex addicts, but thankfully, most of us grow out of it once our hormones come back into balance.

Fast Gunn, look at what you're saying! If you believe that "most" of any group qualifies as something, it cannot by definition be pathological! It's not the "precise" definition that's in question; these fake "therapists" are inventing a syndrome that doesn't exist. And those people aren't "faking symptoms", they're being convinced they have problems when they don't. If I make up a bunch of criteria then define it as a "pathology", I can draw those lines wherever I want to include as many people as I want, but that doesn't make it real.

Most so-called "sex addicts" are neurotic people who are using sex to take their minds off of their real problems, and that isn't at all the same as an "addiction". And the rest of them are just normal men who have been convinced by sex-phobic American society that there's something "wrong" with them when in reality they are acting exactly as Nature designed them to act. You might as well call a cat "cruel".

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

And AngelOK, for the record, the quote that you except is actually from the Salon.com article I have posted. It was quoted, with proper attribution, by Honest Courtesan in her commentary on this subject. I doubt you meant to mislead, but one might infer from your quote that she wrote what you excerpted, whereas in her blog, she was careful to attribute it to the actual author, David Ley, a clinical psychologist in Albuquerque, NM who has published widely on this topic.

Oops, you're right; sorry about that! I was in a rush and failed to attribute it properly. Mea culpa!