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09-04-2011, 11:24 AM
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You seemed to give a shit when you assert Obama's supreme intelligence and assail Bush's; until your BS is questioned, then you resort to "you think i give a fuck"...........
I think your a fucking moroon who can't prove his point with facts, links or reasoning..............:lightn ing:
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Do you really think I give a fuck?
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09-04-2011, 11:37 AM
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It is very similar to Alinsky's Rule #5: Which we know Obama employs regularly......and his ECCIE zombies follow suit.
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
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It's called the Delphi Method/Technique. They can't answer the question, because they lose momentum. They may not even be aware they are using the delphi method, but they have been taught how to manipulate the argument to gain the advantage. The statistics that we all see are not being used to show fact, they are only being used to shape your opinion. They know that if they persist that even a lie can become an opinion based truth and their opinion is the only truth (in their own mind). Some people are extremely susceptable to this technique like some people can be hypnotized and some people can't.
To show this technique at work, look at the R debates and straw polls. Who, in general, wins the straw polls, but is marginalized by the pundits and "national" polls? Ron Paul wins the majority of all straw polls but they are pushing establishment R's like Perry. The only people that actually like Huntsman, that I have seen, are the left wing pundits. I haven't met anyone on the right that actually likes Huntsman, but the left tell you that the only candidtate that can beat Obama is someone like Huntsman. They are trying to shape the opinion of the listener to shape the policies of the next election. It's fairly obvious that the incumbent can't win so they want someone who leans left to advance their ideology, because if the next president doesn't tow the establishment line, he will lose a reelction bid just like Bush 41.
The power of the Delphi method in gaining consensus is first that comments are anonymous, on a SHMB is easily obtainable, which helps the OP avoid defending their original position. It also allows them to be gradually swayed by the majority but without undue direct social pressure. Being able to see what others have said or scored and then rethinking your own position can act as a very effective influence.
Those of us who don't follow one of the "2" party lines call the people who do, "sheep."
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09-04-2011, 11:40 AM
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It doesn't exist...at least with respect to the economy.........
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Good grades do not mean anything. I want to see a policy that Obama has championed that demonstrates an understanding of the free market economy and how it works. Bush had flaws, we all know that so put it in the past. Show me anything that Obama is doing that is an improvement over the past.
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09-04-2011, 11:41 AM
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It is very similar to Alinsky's Rule #5: Which we know Obama employs regularly......and his ECCIE zombies follow suit.
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
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Apparently you don't read the majority of your own posts.
Golf? Teleprompters? "Odumbo" anyone?
And which rule references the carpet bombing of message boards because you have no life, and your opponents just won't be able (or don't care to) keep up with your nonsense?
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09-04-2011, 12:32 PM
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Corporate profits are currently the highest this year since 1947. Yet the corps still are not hiring in the US and shipping more jobs overseas.
Obama may be US President but he doesn't control the corps.
IMHO, all the corps should be called out as unpatriotic.
And if you say that the corps are only maximizing profits to please the shareholders, then you should point the finger at them, but certainly not Obama. He has no control over jobs, but he gets the criticism. . . . .
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Hey Chuck.... how do you you pronounce "corps" ?
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Those of us who don't follow one of the "2" party lines call the people who do, "sheep."
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It appears you are pretty blinded by idol worship. Have you fainted in his presence yet or do you get a tingle up your leg when he reads from a teleprompter? Bleet much?
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09-04-2011, 01:30 PM
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Laz
If I did not already own a business, I would sure want to go out and start one after reading what you wrote........NOT
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09-04-2011, 02:28 PM
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If I did not already own a business, I would sure want to go out and start one after reading what you wrote........NOT
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This post makes no sense. Owning a business is worth it, but starting one isn't?
It's good enough for me, but i'm gonna tell everyone else it would suck for them and they shouldn't want any part of it. Yeah, ok.
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09-04-2011, 03:08 PM
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Still waiting for the proof of Obam's supposed intellect....can somebody point me to his IQ tests, academic records, or other exhibits that.........
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I think Obama has been a miserable failure because he won't fight and keeps caving in to the Republicans. So I don't disagree about the overall premise. But you don't make law review at Harvard by being a dummy. Period.
That being said, I have no idea how you explain his flawed behavior. I think he thinks that the next election is a swing election, not a base election. He is wrong.
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09-04-2011, 03:34 PM
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ummm. did you use spellcheck? hard to get past that.
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09-04-2011, 05:31 PM
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Hey Chuck.... how do you you pronounce "corps" ? ![Laughing1](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/laughing1.gif)
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I think you're educated enough to realize that context is everything: "corps" can be pronounced with the "p" when talking in an abbreviated way about corporations; when talking about a group of people, you drop the "ps" and pronounce it as "cor."
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I think Obama has been a miserable failure because he won't fight and keeps caving in to the Republicans. So I don't disagree about the overall premise. But you don't make law review at Harvard by being a dummy. Period.
That being said, I have no idea how you explain his flawed behavior. I think he thinks that the next election is a swing election, not a base election. He is wrong.
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Yeah, I agree. Obama had a hell of a mandate that he never exercised (385/173 EVs).
Bush, OTOH, squeaked by (286/251 EVs) and announced he had political capital that he was going to spend. And then proceeded to do so. Dumb-ass Democrats never really challenged him.
And Obama, with his mandate, should have passed every policy in which he had uttered a promise, brought out boys home (he'll burn in hell for their deaths), and closed Guantanamo. The terrorists should have been tried in NYC anyway. It was the Constitutional situs for the case.
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09-04-2011, 06:01 PM
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Political Terrorism
Thanks for posting that interesting article.
I knew the debt ceiling debate was brutal, but I had not heard of it described as political terrorism, but that is exactly what it was.
Sadly, the good of the country is not really the focus of the Republican party, they are only interested in gaining power by whatever means, fair or foul and it has been foul more often than not.
. . . President Obama has a very tough fight ahead of him and he must outmaneuver the GOP just to do the right thing for this country.
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09-04-2011, 06:35 PM
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I think you're educated enough to realize that context is everything: "corps" can be pronounced with the "p" when talking in an abbreviated way about corporations; when talking about a group of people, you drop the "ps" and pronounce it as "cor." . . . . .
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Oh , I agree!!* I am; most certainly, educated enough to understand the proper context!!* The obvious point is... The POTUS , is not... especially in relation to military context!!
Commander In Chief? * Competent?* I think, not!!
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09-04-2011, 06:56 PM
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A different perspective is that some republicans, mainly those aligned with the tea party, see that we are on course for a financial catastrophy in this country. The only way to prevent it is to change and change quickly. Those patriots, not terrorists, are forcing the irresponsible politicians in both parties to change.
The FAA funding is a good example of dems wanting to continue subsidizing airports that had no real economic value. We have to quit all of that nonsense now.
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09-04-2011, 06:58 PM
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Great article!!!
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