Democrats Lawfare is American Fascism.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by lustylad

^^^ There it is, folks! The end justifies the means. Got that? We must destroy our democracy and our institutions in order to "save" them.

Thanks for being so open and candid about your support for American fascism.

Indeed !!!

That is exactly what the left is doing - destroying our democracy because they think the end justifies the means

As I mentioned earlier - the Senile Biden regime is no different than a third world dictator. They are both fascists and as lawless as they can get away with, and choose the maximally authoritarian options available to them to attack their opponents. Democracy, rule of law, etc. be damned

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

If you're really interested in being honest, is it that Democrats are making many law breakers accountable, or is it just the ONE man who has cronicly (sic) been a law breaking liar and being fined equally -that is the problem?

Here's a thought - why don't the Dems just pass as many laws as possible that contain a special provision saying "this law applies only to one citizen - Donald Trump - and cannot be used to prosecute anybody else".

Ya thinks that would be Constitutional? Ya thinks it would be consistent with a judicial system that purports to believe in "equal justice under the law"?

Just be honest and up-front about what you're doing here.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Here's a thought - why don't the Dems just pass as many laws as possible that contain a special provision saying "this law applies only to one citizen - Donald Trump - and cannot be used to prosecute anybody else".

Ya thinks that would be Constitutional? Ya thinks it would be consistent with a judicial system that purports to believe in "equal justice under the law"?

Just be honest and up-front about what you're doing here.

LOL!!! Holy shit... wow...

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Don't be too cocky. They'll just invent another "crime" to fit your situation.

Let me know when they do... unless they get you first

[lustylad]

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

—Martin Niemöller


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...the-socialists

[HDGristle]

Fuck luck. You're my human shield.

[berryberry]

Jeb Bush has lots of reasons to bash Donald Trump after Trump owned him in 2016. So when Bush co-writes a WSJ op-ed criticizing the New York judgment against Trump as unfair and bad for business, well you know Senile Biden's and the Democrat's fascist lawfare is out of control

[DNinja69]

If Jeb Bush is a Republican worth listening to I would offer this:

"The President has provoked the disgusting events at the Capitol today. He has gone from creating chaos to inciting insurrection. Mr. President, accept your defeat, go home to Florida and let our elected officials do their jobs and rebuild confidence in our democracy."

With regard to the size of judgement and whether any victims exist I would offer this:

$168 million from lower interest rates, which were based on Trump’s personal guarantee to repay loans based on his false statements of net worth.

$126.8 million in profit from converting the Old Post Office building in Washington, D.C. into a hotel, under a contract obtained through his use of false financial statements.

$60 million in “windfall profit” from selling Ferry Point golf course in the Bronx, whose license agreement relied on his false financial statements, to Bally’s Corp.

No question there is political motivation for this case being pursued but with regard to the amount of judgement it only seems extreme because most people don't have the ability to make a million dollars in profit by lying on a loan application much less 100 million. As for a victim are we really trying to sell the idea that financial crimes where people manipulate systems the rest of us have to live by are victimless?

The OP here seeks to label these charges and the judgement against Trump as a fascist effort to wage political warfare using the court system against a Presidential candidate and there is some truth to their motivation but this article seems more intent on defending what Trump did as ok.

The article claims the 'damage' from this judgement could 'cascade through the country' so are they actually defending what Trump did as acceptable? They question who the victim is which sounds to me like an argument to allow the conduct which would then be good for the economy?

[berryberry]

The government under Senile Biden is entirely corrupted. He is using entire agencies and bureaucracies to take out political enemies of the regime.

Trump learned how corrupt some of these agencies were in his last term.

A successful four years for Trump begins and ends with him massive firings and cleaning house just like Milei has done in Argentina

[DNinja69]

Again trumpeting the 'Biden is all powerful' chant and zero commentary on whether Trump DID or DID NOT do what he has been found guilty of.


If he DID why are we defending that and asking for exoneration?

Or are we just a blanket NOT GUILTY because Trump is beyond the law now?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

Again trumpeting the 'Biden is all powerful' chant and zero commentary on whether Trump DID or DID NOT do what he has been found guilty of.

Everyone with any common sense knows what Trump did:

* borrowing money from banks who did their own due diligence - in fact testifying they did not rely on Trump's estimate of value just like they never rely on what any borrower gives them as estimate of value.

* paying back in full the loans plus agreed upon interest to the banks

* the banks testified they made money and were happy and want to do more business with Trump

You may want to refer to this thread

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2967827

where there is commentary from many well known business people saying "every company below could be found guilty of the exact same actions the Trump Organization was accused of and found guilty, because it is NOT a crime."

So why is Senile Biden and his fascist regime targeting Trump? We all know - because Senile Biden is a fascist who knows he can not beat Trump in a free and fair election. So Senile Biden is destroying America, our institutions and making a mockery of our justice system. That is the focus of this thread - Democrats Lawfare is American Fascism.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by berryberry

You may want to refer to this thread

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2967827

I've done my best to explain and educate folks in the national Political Forum on this spectacular abuse of our legal system by far-left Democrats. Unfortunately, many people are too ignorant when it comes to banking, business, and real estate to grasp what is actually happening.

Even those who do have a clue are often too hopelessly afflicted with TDS to acknowledge Trump is being unfairly persecuted by partisan zealots who are willing to wreak frightening long-term damage and havoc on all of our institutions.

For anyone who may still have an open mind, here are 2 more threads from the National Political Forum you should read:


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2950063

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2965260

[DNinja69]

Cool!

Then Trump should be good on appeal!

As for common sense the continued chants Jan 6 was an ice cream social with bad coverage and the 2020 election was actually stolen remind me we are not dealing with any abundance of such.

All of those would be included in the Democrat Lawfare category hmm?

Common sense also reminds us fraud exists whether the entity being lied to does their own diigence or not. The facts of this case indicate Trump benefitted by his false valuation to the tune of more than $150million those funds should be elsewhere which clearly indicate a victim and bank officials not being concerned does not equate to absolution.

Those wanting to excuse Trump for his unlawful acts are welcome to their opinion and if the value of penalty seems extreme I see that concern but asking someone to pay back funds the obtained via fraud is not out of line.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by lustylad

I've done my best to explain and educate folks in the national Political Forum on this spectacular abuse of our legal system by far-left Democrats. Unfortunately, many people are too ignorant when it comes to banking, business, and real estate to grasp what is actually happening.

Even those who do have a clue are often too hopelessly afflicted with TDS to acknowledge Trump is being unfairly persecuted by partisan zealots who are willing to wreak frightening long-term damage and havoc on all of our institutions.

For anyone who may still have an open mind, here are 2 more threads from the National Political Forum you should read:


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2950063

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2965260

You have indeed. And sadly I don't believe it has helped. There was no fraud, no harmed party, etc

It was all part of the fascist left's lawfare plan to try to harm Trump before the election because they know Senile Biden can not win a free and fair election. Sadly these leftist fascists don't care that they are destroying America, our institutions and making a mockery of our justice system.

[DNinja69]

What a crock of bullshit people will offer in the name of partisan politics.

By the logic presented here Hunter Biden should get the keys to a city. If you advocate exemption for a former President on the basis of politically motivated adjudication then a sitting one gets a pass also.

Unless your have those right-wing blinders on