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Old 12-30-2012, 05:54 PM   #31
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Looking4Brains, I support what the woman did. She did what she had to do. I think I made that clear in the OP. So your comment is ridiculous.

And I can't for the life of me think of any reason I'd want to come visit you.

COG....

I have no problem with you, you spend way more time on the computer than I have ever thought about.

But the way you try to insult fellow fucktards, is pretty silly.... Attack the Handle.

Just for information sake, who decided you were cute when you came up with your handle?

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Old 12-30-2012, 05:58 PM   #32
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What regulations of the 2nd Amendment would you approve or welcome?

- None
- Complete ban on all firearms
- Something sensible with wide support based on excellent analysis.

???

Answers please, stop beating your drum.
I approve of just what the 2nd amendment states. The right to bear arms. I believe we all have the right to defend ourselves even if it comes down to deadly force.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:12 PM   #33
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Police training video showing how fast a person with a knife
can cover ground and assault you.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:36 PM   #34
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Do you know how to defend yourself against an attacker who uses fresh fruit?

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Old 12-30-2012, 07:39 PM   #35
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Absolutely. If it comes down to a decision between an uninvited guest in my home or my kids, the uninvited guest loses...every time. Bye, bye, bad guy.
You're a paper tiger. You have no kids. You simply cowtown to a. Delusional slutformoney
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:43 PM   #36
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Do you know how to defend yourself against an attacker who uses fresh fruit?

Never mind, this one would just be too easy.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:44 PM   #37
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I used the example of 10 yards because it is not a clear cut case. Somebody running at you aiming a gun ten yards away is not the same as somebody standing still facing away from you holding a knife.
10 yards away with a knife is still possibly a good shoot, and before long it will likely be a good shoot. There is something pretty well known in legal and self defense/ law enforcement circles as the "Tueller Drill". This is a demonstration, often given to juries, of how someone 21 feet away holding a knife can get to a citizen/cop BEFORE they can draw their carry weapon. The average time for this act is 1.5 seconds. There is currently a lot of discussion around raising the distance from 21 feet out to 30, which would get to your 10 yard example. This increase in distance has been put forth to compensate for the average joe who is carrying concealed, as he will need extra time to get a gun from concealment.

This has been pretty well established and used in court rooms since the mid 80's by the way.

If someone was 10 yards from me threatening me with a knife I would draw my gun and if they moved towards me, I would fire. But, the law in my state is pretty clear on things like this. Some states, not so much.


By the way, this story happened a while ago. The 2 guys knew that her husband had died and they thought he might have some prescription pain pills, that was the reason for the break in.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:49 PM   #38
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She did him a favor making sure he did not get involved in drugs.
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You're so fucking wise... In fact if it wasnt for titty bars, you assholes wouldn't have anywhere to go!
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but don't be preaching to others and making it sound like "we" are the bad guys and the murderers for protecting ourselves in the manner provided by the laws of the particular state in which we respectively reside.
I'm getting pretty sick of folk who don't read what I write and put words into my mouth.

I have never argued against right to bear arms or 2nd amendment.

I have only argued for the application of common sense.

Feeling vulnerable making you defensive?
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:04 PM   #41
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I approve of just what the 2nd amendment states. The right to bear arms. I believe we all have the right to defend ourselves even if it comes down to deadly force.
You haven't answered the question. Which option would you choose? Or some other option? Or are you choosing the 'no regulation' option?

If you think the 2nd amendment is clear cut and can only be interpreted in one way in the modern era, then you need help.

ps. i see in another post you are a little more clear, but I had to try to edit it to clarify, you didn;t say whether my understanding of your statement was a correct understanding or not.

If my understanding was a correct understanding, then we have similar views. We agree.

But you seem conflicted - on the one hand you write with some nuance, on the other you are making simplistic tub thumping cliches.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:06 PM   #42
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10 yards away with a knife is still possibly a good shoot, and before long it will likely be a good shoot. There is something pretty well known in legal and self defense/ law enforcement circles as the "Tueller Drill". This is a demonstration, often given to juries, of how someone 21 feet away holding a knife can get to a citizen/cop BEFORE they can draw their carry weapon. The average time for this act is 1.5 seconds. There is currently a lot of discussion around raising the distance from 21 feet out to 30, which would get to your 10 yard example. This increase in distance has been put forth to compensate for the average joe who is carrying concealed, as he will need extra time to get a gun from concealment.

This has been pretty well established and used in court rooms since the mid 80's by the way.

If someone was 10 yards from me threatening me with a knife I would draw my gun and if they moved towards me, I would fire. But, the law in my state is pretty clear on things like this. Some states, not so much.


By the way, this story happened a while ago. The 2 guys knew that her husband had died and they thought he might have some prescription pain pills, that was the reason for the break in.
Exactly. In this partcular case, it was probably much less than 10 yards, so as I stated before it was justified legally and morally, and whether they had a knife or gun or were displaying it, is pretty irrelevant. There would be an assumption that they had some kind of weapon, if only their bare hands.
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