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[tatasddd]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

See, you could not tell me how to moderate without telling me who I should ban. the inability to comprehend simple instructions is lost on you and most of the rest of you except for that sweet lady that knows how to act like a gentleman.

Sir, you are your own man and you are a great mod and you act as you deem fit Sir. I am NOT telling you anything at all and I am sorry Sir if you have felt that way. Full respects for you Sir!

[cabot]

2Dogs,

I don't envy your role, and I'm impressed that you'd ask. That just generates more work for you- so I'm surprised that you'd be willing to offer to do the work, in order not to kill the board.

Since you asked - I'd deal with this the same way that works with most children. Immediate, visible, predictable, and consistent consequence for misbehavior.

Draw the line - and apply it immediately; as they say, even a flatworm knows to turn away from pain.
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So for hypothetical example -someone initiated a thread entirely to mock a member - immediate, public, consequence- applied consistently. Someone pukes on a specific member 'out of the blue'- basically, YOU decide who initiated and that person gets dinged /immediately. Let others know, so we will quickly figure out where YOU draw the line- then watch people figure it out and it will stop.

If people feel that they have a deep, compelling, fulfilling need to be able to have internet arguments and 'fight' with someone on the internet (what the fuck is wrong with people-are these really men??), then maybe leave the litter box unmoderated-I don't know or care. I'm only read this thread because this (accidentally) began as a review.

However, it's emblematic- I just don't want to have every thread turn into a shit-show anymore. So when you've had enough, I'd suggest that what works with children will work here - you just lay out the 'new' rules-and then enforce them. SOMEONE will check if you're bluffing-but not many.

Or put another way from a different environment - sometimes if you really need them to behave, you have to shoot a hostage..

[elborak]

The trickiest part is figuring out how you should handle habitual line-testers. Folks who may not actually violate the written rules of the forum very often, but clearly are trying to bait others (fishing references seem to be the norm in this thread) into doing so.

You, as mods, need to do what's "sustainable". You can't devote the amount of time it would take to read and evaluate every post, obviously, but I'll bet even just dealing with the RTM posts is enough to make you question whether it's worth the effort.

Would you mind giving a rough metric on how many RTM posts you have to deal with on an average day?

[tatasddd]

Originally Posted by elborak

The trickiest part is figuring out how you should handle habitual line-testers. Folks who may not actually violate the written rules of the forum very often, but clearly are trying to bait others (fishing references seem to be the norm in this thread) into doing so.

You, as mods, need to do what's "sustainable". You can't devote the amount of time it would take to read and evaluate every post, obviously, but I'll bet even just dealing with the RTM posts is enough to make you question whether it's worth the effort.

Would you mind giving a rough metric on how many RTM posts you have to deal with on an average day?

RTM button is really only for legitimate issues REQUIRING IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. Not for regular insults. That fucking piece of shit d4u was using the RTM button like the space button on his fucking keyboard. Fucking piece of shit!!!

[cabot]

Originally Posted by elborak

The trickiest part is figuring out how you should handle habitual line-testers.

I'd go back to my approach to dealing with children. They know they're testing the line, I know it - but if I try to be 100% perfectly fair, I end up exhausted as they dance back and forth across the line.

Too much work for a mod. Fuck it - if 2Dogs thinks you're a 'habitual line tester', then he visibly, immediately, consistently hits them with the penalty. Yeah, maybe 5% of the time, he might frag an 'innocent'. But 95% of the time, he'll be right, we'll know it, the poster will know it, and it will be well-deserved. I can live with those odds.

What this does - it makes it easy on the mod, and frees them up from this chore because every reasonable poster will stay away from the line - and those that don't are 95% likely to be 'habitual line-testers'.

Someone like that is risking losing the mod altogether, which is a loss for everyone. It's not worth it.

Guys can't control themselves - then I'd say 2Dogs has a rep as pretty damn reasonable; we all live with his judgment, and behave. The alternative is the place just keeps getting worse and worse.

[spazzer]

Things here are pretty smooth when tata isnt around. When you have one thing that's bothering everything, get rid of it permanently. Everything goes back to smooth and stays smooth. Just my opinion.

[Highwayman64]

Thats gents for your input, as far as the sticky we are gonna hold of on that for now. Things have a way here to flush out sooner or later, everyone knows the guidelines here. The ones crossing that line know it or already have been warned.

[Tompgh]

Originally Posted by Highwayman64

Thats gents for your input, as far as the sticky we are gonna hold of on that for now. Things have a way here to flush out sooner or later, everyone knows the guidelines here. The ones crossing that line know it or already have been warned.

To throw my two cents into the conversation - I'm a 40 something professional who utilizes this site to find out about providers and in return to share some of my experiences - good or bad. I have only been around for about three years and for the most part have found this forum to be useful and professional.

In my opinion, the majority of the time that I've seen this forum turn into the shit show that it has been lately is when certain members are allowed back on the site. I don't know anything at all about this tatas guy (other than an apparent affinity for kumquats) but from my perspective he is an agitator and instigator. I have seen numerous posts and even on some of mine where he has made comments the only purpose for which are to irritate or pick fights. Some of which i have found Insulting and degrading to women. He also has provided completely false and misleading comments about providers - contrary to my own personal knowledge and information. I'm not defending anyone here, but IMO he asks for what he gets. Case in point, I believe this particular thread started as a result of Tatas making a comment on another thread telling people to start a new thread if they had comments about him ... begin the shit show.

For the last month, I have seriously considered stopping to use the site as it has become such a mess. I think one day I noticed that Tatas felt the need to comment on every single open thread, none of which were useful whatsoever. Anymore, It honestly makes me cringe when I see his name on a thread, but I also understand others' rights to speak their minds.

You guys (mods) clearly aren't stupid and I'm sure you can see where the problem lies here lately, but I'm not sure what can really be done to reign things in. What would be helpful, and it may already exist, is if there's a feature where we can block any and all posts made by particular members.

[sherman klump]

I have thought about this for a day or so. I'm simply going to play a game like they did on South Park. I'm just simply going to ignore tatasddd like the characters did to Eric Cartman In one episode. The actually ignored him as if he was dead. If we all did that, that would take away everything he wants and craves. He thrives on any attention he can get whether it be good or bad. That is going to drive him nuts if everyone did that because he can't get any sort of gratification from it.

[sexymaid_69]

Originally Posted by cabot

Since you asked - I'd deal with this the same way that works with most children. Immediate, visible, predictable, and consistent consequence for misbehavior.

Draw the line - and apply it immediately; as they say, even a flatworm knows to turn away from pain.

The only problem with immediate handing out of points is that sometimes one gets undeserved points for laughing at themselves because someone else changes the image they were laughing at between my post and the Mods review of the thread...

I'll take any points or retribution I've earned.
They know that.

[sexymaid_69]

Originally Posted by elborak

The trickiest part is figuring out how you should handle habitual line-testers. Folks who may not actually violate the written rules of the forum very often, but clearly are trying to bait others (fishing references seem to be the norm in this thread) into doing so.

Hold on there Skippy.....

I am the only one who regularly uses fishing references in the Pittsburgh forums because I am also a true fisherman.

I'm not baiting anyone.

[Highwayman64]

Originally Posted by Tompgh

To throw my two cents into the conversation - I'm a 40 something professional who utilizes this site to find out about providers and in return to share some of my experiences - good or bad. I have only been around for about three years and for the most part have found this forum to be useful and professional.

In my opinion, the majority of the time that I've seen this forum turn into the shit show that it has been lately is when certain members are allowed back on the site. I don't know anything at all about this tatas guy (other than an apparent affinity for kumquats) but from my perspective he is an agitator and instigator. I have seen numerous posts and even on some of mine where he has made comments the only purpose for which are to irritate or pick fights. Some of which i have found Insulting and degrading to women. He also has provided completely false and misleading comments about providers - contrary to my own personal knowledge and information. I'm not defending anyone here, but IMO he asks for what he gets. Case in point, I believe this particular thread started as a result of Tatas making a comment on another thread telling people to start a new thread if they had comments about him ... begin the shit show.

For the last month, I have seriously considered stopping to use the site as it has become such a mess. I think one day I noticed that Tatas felt the need to comment on every single open thread, none of which were useful whatsoever. Anymore, It honestly makes me cringe when I see his name on a thread, but I also understand others' rights to speak their minds.

You guys (mods) clearly aren't stupid and I'm sure you can see where the problem lies here lately, but I'm not sure what can really be done to reign things in. What would be helpful, and it may already exist, is if there's a feature where we can block any and all posts made by particular members.

Sir, if you click on the username it will take you to the users profile. Then click on "user lists" and a drop down box will appear with an option of "Ignor user"
Thank you for your input.

[Atomic Hamster]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

Hold on there Skippy.....

I am the only one who regularly uses fishing references in the Pittsburgh forums because I am also a true fisherman.

I'm not baiting anyone.

You mean you don't want to hook me into an appointment with a well-baited barb?

I've been told I'm a real whale, but perhaps I was just being fat shamed.

[tatasddd]

There is a definite tatasDDD obsession there is NO doubt about that.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Highwayman64

Sir, if you click on the username it will take you to the users profile. Then click on "user lists" and a drop down box will appear with an option of "Ignore user"
Thank you for your input.

^^^ Hey guys and gals, it's quite easy to put any poster on ignore. Learn how to do it. Then you can all stop over-thinking how to deal with annoying assholes here.