Maher says NSA is OK

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Obama is under no obligation to enforce the Patriot Act. In fact he signed it, along with NDAA and other draconian police state legislation. Don't pass this off on Congress alone. Obama's hands are ALL OVER this. He is the same old dirty, corrupt politician like his forbears. There is no doubt about that. Hope and Change? Bullshit. Same shit, different President. I don't know why you hate Bush, when you defend Obama everytime he does something Bush did.

Holy shit. I just thought you were an arrogant blowhard and a liar.

Now you've proven you are not only all of those things, but also sharp as a bowling ball.

Maybe you should stick to cut and paste rants, Unaliar. Sure, they're lame and most of the time require no thought beyond a Google search. But from posts like this one, we can see why.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by zerodahero

Bill Maher said he’s scared and that’s why he supports turning America into a Stasi surveillance state.

It is noteworthy that ....

.... the loud mouth Maher wasn't "scared" while Bush was in office.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No, he is not. But he signed it. He WANTS to enforce it. He LIKES enforcing it. He loves the POWER it gives him. He is dangerous.

Yes, he IS obligated to enforce the Patriot Act - just like all other laws.

The chief executive must "faithfully execute" all laws.

If it were otherwise - if the chief executive could pick and choose - that would be the epitome of autocracy and we would have degenerated into a dictatorship generations ago.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Yes, he IS obligated to enforce the Patriot Act - just like all other laws.

The chief executive must "faithfully execute" all laws.

If it were otherwise - if the chief executive could pick and choose - that would be the epitome of autocracy and we would have degenerated into a dictatorship generations ago.

There are several issues with the theoretical position you have taken ...

.. #1. ... if he doesn't what are the consequences? None in his 2nd term.
.. #2 .... if he doesn't have the funding to implement them he cannot do it.
.. #3 .... there is another "law" that is higher than a Congressional act ... the constitution.
.. #4 ... he can "execute" laws, but do it through his agencies in a discretionary manner.

Here's an example ... LE ...

In Texas there is only ONE "mandatory" arrest under state law an officer must make.

Although Texas peace officers are "sworn" to uphold the laws.

[IIFFOFRDB]

And this-

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment...deral-impunity

Why wind farms kill eagles with federal impunity
Oil companies are prosecuted when a bird drowns in a waste pit. But the Obama administration has never fined or prosecuted a wind-energy company for similar protected bird deaths. An estimated 573,000 birds are killed by US wind farms each year.


By Dina Cappiello, Associated Press / May 14, 2013


A wind turbine farm owned by PacifiCorp near Glenrock, Wyo., Monday, May 6, 2013. Wind farms owned by the company have killed at least 20 eagles in the state, according to data obtained by The Associated Press.

It happens about once a month here, on the barren foothills of one of America's green-energy boomtowns: A soaring golden eagle slams into a wind farm's spinning turbine and falls, mangled and lifeless, to the ground.

Killing these iconic birds is not just an irreplaceable loss for a vulnerable species. It's also a federal crime, a charge that the Obama administration has used to prosecute oil companies when birds drown in their waste pits, and power companies when birds are electrocuted by their power lines.

But the administration has never fined or prosecuted a wind-energy company, even those that flout the law repeatedly. Instead, the government is shielding the industry from liability and helping keep the scope of the deaths secret.

Wind power, a pollution-free energy intended to ease global warming, is a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's energy plan. His administration has championed a $1 billion-a-year tax break to the industry that has nearly doubled the amount of wind power in his first term.

But like the oil industry under President George W. Bush, lobbyists and executives have used their favored status to help steer U.S. energy policy.

The result is a green industry that's allowed to do not-so-green things. It kills protected species with impunity and conceals the environmental consequences of sprawling wind farms.

More than 573,000 birds are killed by the country's wind farms each year, including 83,000 hunting birds such as hawks, falcons and eagles, according to an estimate published in March in the peer-reviewed Wildlife Society Bulletin.

[IIFFOFRDB]

This to-


http://skinnyreporter.com/selectivelawenforcement.html

Feds: 'Don't count on us to enforce the law'

by Fisher Katt Bate
Skinnyreporter.com

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The federal government will not enforce laws that the Obama Administration does not like, a top-level law enforcement official said today.

Deputy Attorney General Anita Bath said a comprehensive review of federal laws is under way to determine which laws the Administration wants enforced.

"It is unfortunate that John Morton of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) said Friday that his agency might not process undocumented immigrants turned over by Arizona officials," she said. "We were planning to do exactly what he said, but we didn't want to announce it to the public because of the sensitive nature of this matter.

"For now people should just relax, especially undocumented immigrants. Be assured that this President, unlike previous Presidents, will not enforce laws just because Congress passed them. Any law that President Obama or his cabinet considers unconstitutional, poorly conceived, unfortunate or misguided will not be supported.

"This President will not be swayed by public opinion, court rulings or Congressional dictates. The American people hired him to change America fundamentally, and in order to do that he must act independently and with great courage."

Marshall Law, assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said the administration will consider the wishes of other countries, particularly Canada and Mexico.

"President Felipe Calderon of Mexico was up here this week precisely to review laws that he does not favor," he said. "He particularly does not like Arizona's new immigration law. Neither he nor President Obama nor my boss Janet Napolitano nor Attorney General Eric Holder nor P.J. Crowley of the State Department have read the Arizona law, but they don't need to because they are judging the law by those who support it, and if the Republicans are for it, President Obama is definitely against it."

Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Mannheim Stoned said President Obama's decision to stop enforcing laws prohibiting the use of medical marijuana went over so well that the DEA might stop enforcing laws that prohibit the use of natural herbs and plant products, including marijuana, coca leaves and poppies.

"Our surveys indicate that about 27 percent of Americans would support eliminating the laws against natural mood enhancers," he said. "That's approximately the same number of people who are behind the president right now. In fact, we think they're the very same people, so we want to give our constituents what they want."

Justice Department spokesman Sharon Weed said she is writing a memo that stipulates only federal officials may enforce federal laws. She said it is necessary to counteract a Bush-era memo that gave officials the opposite idea.

"Police throughout the country have the idea that they can help us enforce federal laws," she said. "We don't want their help on laws we don't like."

Attorney General Eric Holder said he doesn't like a law prohibiting people from intimidating voters at polling places.

"So long as intimidation is accomplished without requiring actual physical violence," he said, "we're going to allow it, but only if the intimidators represent a minority population. It would be wrong to allow white racists to intimidate black voters."

Dr. Di A. Rhea, director of the new Capital Redistribution of Assessments Plan, said prohibitions against confiscating wealth are unfair to federal officials who wish to spread that wealth.

"We are asking President Obama to declare an executive order that would direct federal law enforcement officers to ignore this outdated component of federal law," she said. ""Legislating and amending the Constitution are unwieldy, and we need changes now, not miles or days down the road."

Other laws that administration officials say they might stop enforcing are Presidential term limits, Freedom of Information laws that force federal officials to reveal information to the media, welfare reform bills that require recipients to work or attend school, and requirements that candidates for high federal offices to be U.S. citizens.

[Jackie S]

We will just have to wait until Birds of Prey evolve to recognize wind turbine blades.

. A couple of hundred thousand years should do it.

To bad they don't get the same press that the Polar Bears get.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

This to-

http://skinnyreporter.com/selectivelawenforcement.html

Feds: 'Don't count on us to enforce the law'

by Fisher Katt Bate
Skinnyreporter.com

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The federal government will not enforce laws that the Obama Administration does not like, a top-level law enforcement official said today.

Deputy Attorney General Anita Bath said a comprehensive review of federal laws is under way to determine which laws the Administration wants enforced.

"It is unfortunate that John Morton of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) said Friday that his agency might not process undocumented immigrants turned over by Arizona officials," she said. "We were planning to do exactly what he said, but we didn't want to announce it to the public because of the sensitive nature of this matter.

"For now people should just relax, especially undocumented immigrants. Be assured that this President, unlike previous Presidents, will not enforce laws just because Congress passed them. Any law that President Obama or his cabinet considers unconstitutional, poorly conceived, unfortunate or misguided will not be supported.

"This President will not be swayed by public opinion, court rulings or Congressional dictates. The American people hired him to change America fundamentally, and in order to do that he must act independently and with great courage."

Marshall Law, assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said the administration will consider the wishes of other countries, particularly Canada and Mexico.

"President Felipe Calderon of Mexico was up here this week precisely to review laws that he does not favor," he said. "He particularly does not like Arizona's new immigration law. Neither he nor President Obama nor my boss Janet Napolitano nor Attorney General Eric Holder nor P.J. Crowley of the State Department have read the Arizona law, but they don't need to because they are judging the law by those who support it, and if the Republicans are for it, President Obama is definitely against it."

Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Mannheim Stoned said President Obama's decision to stop enforcing laws prohibiting the use of medical marijuana went over so well that the DEA might stop enforcing laws that prohibit the use of natural herbs and plant products, including marijuana, coca leaves and poppies.

"Our surveys indicate that about 27 percent of Americans would support eliminating the laws against natural mood enhancers," he said. "That's approximately the same number of people who are behind the president right now. In fact, we think they're the very same people, so we want to give our constituents what they want."

Justice Department spokesman Sharon Weed said she is writing a memo that stipulates only federal officials may enforce federal laws. She said it is necessary to counteract a Bush-era memo that gave officials the opposite idea.

"Police throughout the country have the idea that they can help us enforce federal laws," she said. "We don't want their help on laws we don't like."

Attorney General Eric Holder said he doesn't like a law prohibiting people from intimidating voters at polling places.

"So long as intimidation is accomplished without requiring actual physical violence," he said, "we're going to allow it, but only if the intimidators represent a minority population. It would be wrong to allow white racists to intimidate black voters."

Dr. Di A. Rhea, director of the new Capital Redistribution of Assessments Plan, said prohibitions against confiscating wealth are unfair to federal officials who wish to spread that wealth.

"We are asking President Obama to declare an executive order that would direct federal law enforcement officers to ignore this outdated component of federal law," she said. ""Legislating and amending the Constitution are unwieldy, and we need changes now, not miles or days down the road."

Other laws that administration officials say they might stop enforcing are Presidential term limits, Freedom of Information laws that force federal officials to reveal information to the media, welfare reform bills that require recipients to work or attend school, and requirements that candidates for high federal offices to be U.S. citizens.

The sad part is that this satire link is probably the most reliable one you have ever posted.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

There are several issues with the theoretical position you have taken ...

.. #1. ... if he doesn't what are the consequences? None in his 2nd term.
.. #2 .... if he doesn't have the funding to implement them he cannot do it.
.. #3 .... there is another "law" that is higher than a Congressional act ... the constitution.
.. #4 ... he can "execute" laws, but do it through his agencies in a discretionary manner.

Here's an example ... LE ...

In Texas there is only ONE "mandatory" arrest under state law an officer must make.

Although Texas peace officers are "sworn" to uphold the laws.

should be easy enough>>>.

#1 he can be impeached just like Andrew Jackson .. in mid term

#2 them he cannot do?... them? ... you stupid fucktard

#3,, theres a little thing like the oath the potus takes when being sworn in, maybe you should read it

:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

should be easy enough>>>.

#1 he can be impeached just like Andrew Jackson .. in mid term

#2 them he cannot do?... them? ... you stupid fucktard

#3,, theres a little thing like the oath the potus takes when being sworn in, maybe you should read it

Andrew Jackson impeached? When, CBJ7?


Plus, absence of enforcement shows this administration's policy of non-enforcement as pointed out @ http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1053107413&postcount=35

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

The sad part is that this satire link is probably the most reliable one you have ever posted.

How could this not be true?

http://skinnyreporter.com/

Holder surprises critics by finishing self-investigation early

by Gibb Mia Breyk
Skinnyreporter.com
June 4, 2013, WASHINGTON, DC — Attorney General Eric Holder announced today that he already has finished a comprehensive investigation of himself as ordered by President Obama.

“In a complete renunciation of overreaching conservatives, I found no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing by myself in any of the so-called scandals,” he said.

Holder said he studied how to investigate himself by watching video clips of international security expert Howard Mandell employing innovative techniques at the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City. The current “America’s Got Talent” judge, Mandell forced suspected terrorists to pat themselves down for weapons and passed out latex gloves to visitors for self-examination of body cavities.
“I tried the latex gloves myself,” Holder said. “It’s a lot harder than you think and hurts like a root canal, but I couldn’t find any contraband at all.”

The embattled attorney general said he took pains in his self-investigation to ensure that the subject knew his rights.

"Not only did I read the subject his Miranda warning," he said, "but I also outlined his 5th Amendment right to refuse to make any incriminating statements."

Holder said he found himself remarkably cooperative and was even able to gain access to most of his secret email addresses, which can be used to conceal illegal activities.

"I was expecting to take several days to read all the emails," he said, "but the subject made it easy by invoking executive privilege and redacting all communications between himself and other members of President Obama's administration."

As head of the Justice Department, Holder said he used his authority to expand the investigation to include any personal involvement with four of the five scandals cited by detractors of the Obama Administration.

“In fact, I was able to determine that I had no memory of any involvement in any of them.”

Holder said he has a clear conscience because he had no memory of being involved in the AP reporter scandal, the Benghazi affair, "Fast and Furious" or the federal government’s spying on Fox News reporters. He said he knew about and encouraged the Internal Revenue Service’s harassment of conservatives who call themselves patriots but said he saw nothing wrong with it.
“Everybody knows that the terms 'patriot,' '912 project' and 'Tea Party' are code words for racists who are conspiring to lower taxes and reduce government spending,” he said. “And nobody in their right mind would want people like that to take part in and, therefore, corrupt our elections.”
Holder said his investigation of his own role in the "Fast and Furious" Mexican gun walking affair took only 15 minutes because Obama has gagged the subject through invoking executive privilege.

"I'm proud of this administration's transparency," the attorney general said. "We're so transparent that some people say they can see right through us."

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Andrew Jackson impeached? When, CBJ7?


Plus, absence of enforcement shows this administration's policy of non-enforcement as pointed out @ http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1053107413&postcount=35

pardon me, brain fart

ANDREW JOHNSON

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by CJ7

should be easy enough>>>.

#1 he can be impeached just like Andrew Jackson .. in mid term .. for what? Not against the law to not enforce a law ... and his oath doesn't require him to "enforce the law"!!!

#2 them he cannot do?... them? ... you stupid fucktard .. how did you ever pass a flight exam without being able to comprehend what you read?

#3,, theres a little thing like the oath the potus takes when being sworn in, maybe you should read it

:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

I probably read that oath before you learned to wet your diapers .... fuckhead ...

and since I read it and CAN COMPREHEND IT* ... where does it say ....

.."faithfully execute the laws"???? ... ignorant mindless child you are.

Did you intentionally leave off #4 ... or did you run out of brain activity ... ?

*at least admit it like you did the last time you couldn't understand what you read.

Where's the link that supports this:

"Obama is under no obligation to enforce the LAW ??? really? "

Now you are talking about the "patriot act" ... so show the provision in the U.S. Constitution that says the President can be impeached for refusing to "execute the LAW"!

Can I save you some time:

"Section 4

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office onImpeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Yea REALLY!

Now ... show me the link that says ....

... "Andrew Jackson" was impeached!!

[CJ7]

the oath requires a potus to uphold the constitution which IS the law, as is the oath taken by congressional members ...

how fucking stupid are you?


the potus isn't required by the constitution to uphold the law, because the constitution is the law, which he swears to protect the constitution when being sworn in ..

never mind, I just figured out how fucking DUMB you are.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the oath requires a potus to uphold the constitution which IS the law, as is the oath taken by congressional members ...

how fucking stupid are you?


the potus isn't required by the constitution to uphold the law, because the constitution is the law, which he swears to protect the constitution when being sworn in ..

never mind, I just figured out how fucking DUMB you are.

Then why the fuck isn't your hero Odumbo enforcing all of the laws, CBJ7?