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Old 10-16-2012, 12:17 PM   #31
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Wait...according to HRC herself, "The buck stops at the Oval Office"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dKGNQg4T3NE
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:42 PM   #32
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That was Trueman everyone since him has found a scapegoat...
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:23 PM   #33
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Reagan, Bush are up for re-election ... Obaminable is.


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Bush was reelected as I recall. I think Obama will be too.




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Where were you when LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident? Born?
What does it matter? i'm not being the hypocrite.

But yes I had altready been 'born'.Don't recall where I was though.

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If you call 911 because someone is shooting at you ...

............ and the police don't respond.

Just remember: Shit happens.
Exactly! You will not always have your mother there to change your diapers. Shit happens, especially in your diapers.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:53 PM   #34
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What does it matter? i'm not being the hypocrite
I never accused you of being hypocritical .. just "selecto-critical" ... and have on occasion accused you of modifying the discussion point to fit your perspective in order to attempt to appear to be winning the discussion.

Obaminable is simply not taking responsibility for the negatives he creates, but at the same time he beats his chest over the positive results occuring on his watch. It's arguably not hypocritical, just intellectually dishonest. The same with the Secretary of State, who, apparently, has convinced herself that she is so popular and "bullet proof" that she can verbalize taking the blame and then dodge the consequences of it in 2016.....like she was dodging sniper fire on the tarmac in Europe! I think she got that from Bill.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:00 PM   #35
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were you?
Of course, and old enough to chat with Brits in a bar in Belise who were RRing from their "gig" in CA at the request of Reagan and orders of Thatcher to pick up the slack until the storm blew over ... what were you doing smart ass?

Let me guess .... flying jets!!!! Lmao
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:01 PM   #36
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its part of the sec of states job description .. not obies

look it up
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:11 PM   #37
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its part of the sec of states job description .. not obies

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National security is a president's responsibility, CBJ7. Hillary is just a deputy. Try again, moron.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:34 PM   #38
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its part of the sec of states job description .. not obies

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"part of the sec of states job description" is to lie and take a bullet for the President?

If part of the sec of state's job is to provide security for the Ambassadors, and she was informed of the request for additional security, having been aware of the earlier attacks and attempts on the lives of persons in the U.S. facilities in Libya,

then the President should not wait for a resignation, but call her home, fire her at the airport, and call her a cab at her cost.

He should not even be obliged to call Bill.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:38 PM   #39
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you call it taking a bullet, its her job. Period.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:12 PM   #40
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Exclamation Courageous

Hillary was courageous enough and did the right thing by accepting responsibility for this misfortune.

If the late ambassador did ask for more security, but did not get it, then the Secretary of State needs to take some of the blame for that security lapse.

. . . However, remember that there are literally thousands of people under her and someone dropped the ball when they failed to bring the message to her.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:32 PM   #41
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I think the ambassador was a closet republican who offed himself before the election to give Romney a bump...
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:45 PM   #42
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Default State Department Followed Benghazi Attack as It Happened

State Department Followed Benghazi Attack as It Happened

Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, said a security agent activated a danger-notification system as the attack began shortly before 10 p.m. local time on Sept. 11.

“From that point on, I could follow what was happening in almost real time,” Lamb said in written testimony prepared for a hearing today by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which has been investigating the attack and whether security was adequate.

State Department officials said yesterday they had never concluded the attack grew out of a protest over a video depicting the Prophet Muhammad, as some Obama administration officials had said last month. The officials, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity, said there had been no protest at the U.S. consulate that day and the attack came suddenly.

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Old 10-16-2012, 06:50 PM   #43
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It's part of her deal..Obama pays off her camp gain debt and Hillary takes the fall.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:24 PM   #44
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So the official line now is, the White House didn't know...this was the State Department's fuck up.

We'll see how that pans out tonight. It will be interesting.
And exactly who appointed these people? Hussein did. His people, his fuckup.

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Lets see how long Bill can keep his mouth shut.
Longer than he can keep his fly shut i'd bet, but not by much.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:44 PM   #45
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I thought it said Hillary takes it in the butt....
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