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Old 07-31-2016, 02:01 PM   #31
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You do understand you're trying to rationalize the behavior of the next Hitler...right? Doesn't matter whether he believes in what he says, he's saying it to bring out the closet goose-stepping, bigoted, racist, white supremist pinheads, of which he is convinced there are enough of them to elect him. It just might work.
You would be the fascist, goose-steeping minion supporting the only candidate who is financially supported and endorsed by George Soros: an actual Nazi collaborator, pro-plunged-ass.

You would be the fascist, goose-steeping minion supporting the only candidate who has professed to actually "admire" Margaret Sanger: a progenitor of the eugenics theories employed by the Nazis during the Holocaust, pro-plunged-ass.
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:42 PM   #32
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You would be the fascist, goose-steeping minion supporting the only candidate who is financially supported and endorsed by George Soros: an actual Nazi collaborator, pro-plunged-ass.

You would be the fascist, goose-steeping minion supporting the only candidate who has professed to actually "admire" Margaret Sanger: a progenitor of the eugenics theories employed by the Nazis during the Holocaust, pro-plunged-ass.
Is the "goose-stepping" he does to keep his pants cuffs out of his own shit?

I'm not sure these robo-posters-for-Hillary actually do any background vetting.
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:25 PM   #33
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Let's see...

Who is saying it was the Russians?

Obama and Hillary

Of What does that remind you?

Yeah, enough said

So it's not the Russians,

Maybe it's only Obama and Hillary trying to tie trump, Putin, NATO et al all together in the mindless minds of the American electorate
from the FBI but they told them & DNC that they were russian hackers affiliated with the russian govt.

time line of claims.
FBI - russian hackers affiliated with the russian govt.
Hillary & obama - russian govt
Media - russian govt
new media - russian hackers affiliated with the russian govt.
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:29 PM   #34
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Odumbo did it inadvertently in Yemen and failed to keep it from happening in Crimea and Britain, though Odumbo really tried, and Ukraine's future is still in question.
how?

This is a Saudi operation. they certainly did not ask "O" for permission.

they had the case of the shits when the Houthis, shitte subset of shia islam on thier southeastern flank was winning.
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:38 PM   #35
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how?

This is a Saudi operation. they certainly did not ask "O" for permission.

they had the case of the shits when the Houthis, shitte subset of shia islam on thier southeastern flank was winning.
Odumbo's poor foreign policy, that's "how". After all, Odumbo did take personal credit for the "Arab Spring" movement where all of his failed foreign policy started right after his infamous apology tour.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b02d5d5ed382bd

What is really humorous is how everyone is so "appalled" that a Foriegn Entity would meddle in our politics, while we have been doing this for years.

I think the most obvious, and probably the most aggregious, is when the Obama Administration went all out in the last election in Isreal to get more Liberal/Socialist/Progressive candidates elected.

How " appalling" was that?

They did the same thing in Russia. The only thing is, Russia plays hardball.
we really should stop interfering in other countries it only induces others to interfere in this country out of spite and prolly revenge.
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how?

This is a Saudi operation. they certainly did not ask "O" for permission.

they had the case of the shits when the Houthis, shitte subset of shia islam on thier southeastern flank was winning.
Please examine the map. The Russians were in Iraq helping them when we were preparing for the invasion ... (convoy tried to escape to the North and was struck) ... Russians in Iran ... Russians in Syria .... The Russians, strategically, need the ingress and egress from the Black Sea and pipeline access across Iran. Ingress and egress from the Black Sea does no good unless the assure they can pass through the Red Sea into the Indian Ocean and the pipeline access across Iran is meaningless without the ability to control the shores along the Persian Gulf and into the Indian Ocean.

Their interest in Afghanistan was of a similar nature .... just like Enron for the U.S. during the Clinton Administration. Having the gas and oil is worthless if one cannot produce it and deliver it to a market.

I'm not suggesting you don't know that ... it's a global consideration ... the problem with our "duffus in office" ... is not interested in "carbon fuels" ... and neither is CLINTON BTW ... whether its hard, liquid, or gas.
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Odumbo's poor foreign policy, that's "how". After all, Odumbo did take personal credit for the "Arab Spring" movement where all of his failed foreign policy started right after his infamous apology tour.
Yemen wasn't involved in the so called arab spring. In fact, Obama didn't have his eyes on Yemen until he got reports of Al qaeda hanging out there and sent the drones to hunt for them.

I understand that Saana (sp?) the former president of Yemen was forced out 2 years ago (I think) is behind the rebellion against the Yemen govt and is allied with the Houthis. i don't what deal was made between the two, but I think it may involve splitting Yemen in 2 vis a vis north & south yemen as they were before they joined in late 1990.
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we really should stop interfering in other countries it only induces others to interfere in this country out of spite and prolly revenge.
Isolationism is a thing of the past.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:04 PM   #40
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Please examine the map. The Russians were in Iraq helping them when we were preparing for the invasion ... (convoy tried to escape to the North and was struck) ... Russians in Iran ... Russians in Syria .... The Russians, strategically, need the ingress and egress from the Black Sea and pipeline access across Iran. Ingress and egress from the Black Sea does no good unless the assure they can pass through the Red Sea into the Indian Ocean and the pipeline access across Iran is meaningless without the ability to control the shores along the Persian Gulf and into the Indian Ocean.

Their interest in Afghanistan was of a similar nature .... just like Enron for the U.S. during the Clinton Administration. Having the gas and oil is worthless if one cannot produce it and deliver it to a market.

I'm not suggesting you don't know that ... it's a global consideration ... the problem with our "duffus in office" ... is not interested in "carbon fuels" ... and neither is CLINTON BTW ... whether its hard, liquid, or gas.
lol. I wasn't expecting a russian answer. lol. I'm gonna have to think on this.

I'm well aware of Russia's need to access the Mediterranean sea & Indian ocean. Russia's choices of allies are a bit odd in this case with Syria & Iran (no land border with russia) . Iran, however, does make sense as they do share a lake with russia.

how does this russian angle tie in with Yemen? I do know a part of Yemen was a former client state with the Soviet Union.

I suspect Turkey thinks it may get booted out of NATO as they are purging secularist people out of government as many as possible and turn it into an Islamist state. They are apparently making nice with Russia whom they do border.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:06 PM   #41
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Isolationism is a thing of the past.
Is it? Isolationism is not the same as being non-interventionist.
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Is it? Isolationism is not the same as being non-interventionist.
That's splitting hairs. As long as this country is engage in global trade this country will have to assure that "trade routes" are open for ingress and egress between producers and markets. Even enjoyable experiences like vacations require a high level of ingress and egress without interference.

An issue then becomes how do we assure that free flow of goods and people.

That doesn't even address the age-old issues of mutual protection and assistance between neighbors, friends, and families in so far as other nations and peoples inside them.
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"The DNC is mad at Russia

because they "think"

they are trying to manipulate

our election by Exposing that

the DNC IS manipulating our election???"
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lol. I wasn't expecting a russian answer. lol. I'm gonna have to think on this.
Why not?
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Why not?
just because
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Yemen wasn't involved in the so called arab spring. In fact, Obama didn't have his eyes on Yemen until he got reports of Al qaeda hanging out there and sent the drones to hunt for them.

I understand that Saana (sp?) the former president of Yemen was forced out 2 years ago (I think) is behind the rebellion against the Yemen govt and is allied with the Houthis. i don't what deal was made between the two, but I think it may involve splitting Yemen in 2 vis a vis north & south yemen as they were before they joined in late 1990.

Arab Spring was a cancer that spread to Yemen.
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