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08-20-2019, 07:46 AM
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And Trump is doing it absolutely right this time, there are limits/exclusions/etc for primary contributions vs. general election contributions. Trump will build a very nice war chest during the primary, while the Dems are forced to spend it beating each other up.
His war chest will be "BIGLY" by the general, while all the Dems play catch up.
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Yeah, Speedy tried his best not to give Trump any credit but these numbers don’t lie. You can’t spin it. Speedy will rely on Polls. And the polls say today that Biden will win his party’s nomination and beat Trump. With each passing day it’s painfully obvious that Biden isn’t going to prevail. Maybe they should poll Democratic Party elders to see what they think. A confidential poll that is.
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08-20-2019, 07:51 AM
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What you fail to realize is that Trumps base is all he’s going to get. The more he places the fear and smear ads you know he’s going to place, the more motivated the decent people of this country will be to get out and vote.
A billion dollars of reminders of the hate and divisiveness of the Trump experiment will only amplify his defeat.
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All you and the wacko left have is the hope for an economy destroying recession...how unAmerican of the left as always. When you ain't got nothing else...destroy EVERYTHING!!
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08-20-2019, 08:09 AM
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All you and the wacko left have is the hope for an economy destroying recession...how unAmerican of the left as always. When you ain't got nothing else...destroy EVERYTHING!!
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not understanding you again.
we are not in a Recession now, yet Trump loses to the top 4 Democrats if the election was held today. why "hope" for a recession?
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08-20-2019, 09:09 AM
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So I see bambino hasn’t discovered his stones yet...
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08-20-2019, 09:15 AM
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not understanding you again.
we are not in a Recession now, yet Trump loses to the top 4 Democrats if the election was held today. why "hope" for a recession?
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The election isn't held today...the TDS is not your friend!! The same polls that predicted Hellerys landslide...GOTCHA!!
This just in...
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rump-policies/
You tell me CHANG...
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...seizing-moment
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08-20-2019, 09:18 AM
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Ignoring
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08-20-2019, 09:22 AM
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Did your shit in your training pants??
Back to diapers for you!!
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08-20-2019, 09:36 AM
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Yeah, Speedy tried his best not to give Trump any credit but these numbers don’t lie. You can’t spin it. Speedy will rely on Polls. And the polls say today that Biden will win his party’s nomination and beat Trump. With each passing day it’s painfully obvious that Biden isn’t going to prevail. Maybe they should poll Democratic Party elders to see what they think. A confidential poll that is.
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Let's look at 2Q 2019 contributions NATIONWIDE:
Trump $54 million
Sanders $24 million
Buttigieg $24.8
Biden $21.5
Warren $19
Harris $12
So the top 5 Democratic contenders alone had contributions of $101.3 million vs $54 million for Trump. Only when you add in contributions made to the RNC ($51 million) do you match the total contributions to only 5 of the 20+ Democratic contenders.
"President Trump, who began raising money for his re-election campaign as soon as he took office, has so far raised about $135.6 million toward the 2020 election. That includes tens of millions from small-dollar donors (those who give a total of $200 or less), and his large fundraising numbers, coupled with token primary opposition and his control of the party, have so far given him a financial advantage.
But the sprawling field of Democratic presidential candidates has combined to outraise him, despite his head start, suggesting that if the party’s donors consolidate behind the eventual nominee, Democrats stand ready to tap a massive pool of proven — and recent — donors keen on defeating Trump."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ial-candidate/
I think that is exactly what I said in my earlier post.
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08-20-2019, 10:14 AM
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Let's look at 2Q 2019 contributions NATIONWIDE:
Trump $54 million
Sanders $24 million
Buttigieg $24.8
Biden $21.5
Warren $19
Harris $12
So the top 5 Democratic contenders alone had contributions of $101.3 million vs $54 million for Trump. Only when you add in contributions made to the RNC ($51 million) do you match the total contributions to only 5 of the 20+ Democratic contenders.
"President Trump, who began raising money for his re-election campaign as soon as he took office, has so far raised about $135.6 million toward the 2020 election. That includes tens of millions from small-dollar donors (those who give a total of $200 or less), and his large fundraising numbers, coupled with token primary opposition and his control of the party, have so far given him a financial advantage.
But the sprawling field of Democratic presidential candidates has combined to outraise him, despite his head start, suggesting that if the party’s donors consolidate behind the eventual nominee, Democrats stand ready to tap a massive pool of proven — and recent — donors keen on defeating Trump."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ial-candidate/
I think that is exactly what I said in my earlier post.
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Still Speedy, the money those candidates has don’t automatically go to another candidate or the eventual nominee. Trump doubles his nearest competitor. When you factor in he doesn’t have to spend on a primary campaign, the money gap widens no matter who the Democrats put up. Bernie’s money didn’t go tho Clinton in 2026, neither did all his voters. BTW, Siver got the 2016 election wrong.
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08-20-2019, 11:58 AM
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I see Bambino still hasn't discovered his stones. Maybe an MRI...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
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08-20-2019, 12:01 PM
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I see Bambino still hasn't discovered his stones. Maybe an MRI...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
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You’ve already sniffed them out. No need for an MRI. You’re feeling a little frisky aren’t ya? You don’t think this forum is being moderated. Carry on!!!!!!
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08-20-2019, 12:51 PM
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You’ve already sniffed them out. No need for an MRI. You’re feeling a little frisky aren’t ya? You don’t think this forum is being moderated. Carry on!!!!!!
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Not moderated? You and your hysterical pals are still here aren’t they? Didnt you say ECCIE might be gone soon? LOL!!!
You know what to do, buddy. Still haven’t put your money where your mouth is.
Or simply admit that Trump has no chance at all on WA. (If I were you, I’d worry about Pennsyltucky.)
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08-20-2019, 01:54 PM
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Not moderated? You and your hysterical pals are still here aren’t they? Didnt you say ECCIE might be gone soon? LOL!!!
You know what to do, buddy. Still haven’t put your money where your mouth is.
Or simply admit that Trump has no chance at all on WA. (If I were you, I’d worry about Pennsyltucky.)
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No, Pa and Texas are good. I said earlier that Washington was probably not in play. Those scumbags shamed a Jewish Billionaire in 2016. He doesn’t give a fuck this time around. He’s all in. Maybe he’ll take your bet.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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08-20-2019, 02:22 PM
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Still Speedy, the money those candidates has don’t automatically go to another candidate or the eventual nominee. Trump doubles his nearest competitor. When you factor in he doesn’t have to spend on a primary campaign, the money gap widens no matter who the Democrats put up. Bernie’s money didn’t go tho Clinton in 2026, neither did all his voters. BTW, Siver got the 2016 election wrong.
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I don't disagree with you, but as I pointed out, and the article I cited agrees with me, that once the Democratic party comes together on a candidate, the likelihood is that Democratic donations will increase dramatically. Given the head start Trump has it will be almost impossible to catch him in total contributions but in quarterly donations from here to election day will favor the Democrats in my opinion.
Almost everybody got the 2016 election wrong. Silver was hardly alone. Many compared Trump's 2016 victory to hitting an inside straight in poker. The Trump team did a far better job of getting out the vote in battleground states than the Clinton team and Trump won.
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08-20-2019, 02:40 PM
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I don't disagree with you, but as I pointed out, and the article I cited agrees with me, that once the Democratic party comes together on a candidate, the likelihood is that Democratic donations will increase dramatically. Given the head start Trump has it will be almost impossible to catch him in total contributions but in quarterly donations from here to election day will favor the Democrats in my opinion.
Almost everybody got the 2016 election wrong. Silver was hardly alone. Many compared Trump's 2016 victory to hitting an inside straight in poker. The Trump team did a far better job of getting out the vote in battleground states than the Clinton team and Trump won.
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Trump simply outworked Hillary. She disappeared in the month of August trusting the polling data in Pa, Wi and MI. The Clintons had a much better ground game. But Bill knew better. He saw Trump working those states hard. But Hillary didn’t listen to him. She trusted people like Nate Silver. The rest as they say, is history. But you still haven’t addressed Trumps remarkable donor performance in Washington.,It’s a deep blue state. His numbers are astounding. Polls would suggest the opposite.
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