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06-08-2024, 12:43 AM
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If you have proof of that please post a link to the information.
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it's been proven. once again .. the FBI had the laptop for 10 months before this nonsense was published. the FBI and these so-called security experts knew the laptop was authentic.
they knew this months before this letter who's sole purpose was to intentionally misrepresent (LIE) about the laptop being russiki disinformation.
OOPS!!!!
Testimony Reveals FBI Employees Who Warned Social Media Companies about Hack and Leak Operation Knew Hunter Biden Laptop Wasn’t Russian Disinformation
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...ies-about-hack
once again .. note the source.
still think these 51 neocon assholes didn't know this when they penned their "election interference" letter?
you've lost the argument. they knew, they all knew and they all lied. and a lie by omission is still a lie.
"Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes the failure to correct pre-existing misconceptions."
FBI Official Told Twitter Hunter Biden Laptop Was Real on Day New York Post Story Was Censored
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-was-censored/
OOPS!
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06-08-2024, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
it's been proven. once again .. the FBI had the laptop for 10 months before this nonsense was published. the FBI and these so-called security experts knew the laptop was authentic.
they knew this months before this letter who's sole purpose was to intentionally misrepresent (LIE) about the laptop being russiki disinformation.
OOPS!!!!
Testimony Reveals FBI Employees Who Warned Social Media Companies about Hack and Leak Operation Knew Hunter Biden Laptop Wasn’t Russian Disinformation
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...ies-about-hack
once again .. note the source.
still think these 51 neocon assholes didn't know this when they penned their "election interference" letter?
you've lost the argument. they knew, they all knew and they all lied. and a lie by omission is still a lie.
"Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes the failure to correct pre-existing misconceptions."
FBI Official Told Twitter Hunter Biden Laptop Was Real on Day New York Post Story Was Censored
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-was-censored/
OOPS!
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I don’t believe that the authors of the russians disinformation letter had any idea that the government had the laptop. I think that if they did they would have been brought before the congress to swear under oath whether they knew or not.
I also believe that the FBI decided to say “no comment” when questioned because they didn’t want to be seen as influencing the election.
Nobody lied they just didn’t confirm. I believe that there was a number of reasons not to mostly to avoid having to confirm or deny everything that someone published about the laptop. By confirming it’s existence they would give disinformation actors the very opportunity to spread disinformation that they didn’t want on social media.
The only reason conspiracy nuts are pissed about this is that they didn’t have the option to use such salacious material in an effort to cause the President and his family pain and suffering. As well as fill their coffers with social media money.
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06-08-2024, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
I don’t believe that the authors of the russians disinformation letter had any idea that the government had the laptop. I think that if they did they would have been brought before the congress to swear under oath whether they knew or not.
I also believe that the FBI decided to say “no comment” when questioned because they didn’t want to be seen as influencing the election.
Nobody lied they just didn’t confirm. I believe that there was a number of reasons not to mostly to avoid having to confirm or deny everything that someone published about the laptop. By confirming it’s existence they would give disinformation actors the very opportunity to spread disinformation that they didn’t want on social media.
The only reason conspiracy nuts are pissed about this is that they didn’t have the option to use such salacious material in an effort to cause the President and his family pain and suffering. As well as fill their coffers with social media money.
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so you believe that Clapper and Brennan, to name two of the most notable liars, who both had secret clearance (the bulk of the rest did too) and they authored this letter WITHOUT checking with their many agency contacts? they were still getting secret intel briefings. and you think they didn't know?
you really believe that?
bahahhaaa
FBI ‘verified’ authenticity of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop in November 2019: IRS whistleblower
https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/fbi-ve...-gary-shapley/
the evidence of a coverup and election interference is OVERWHELMING and UNDENIABLE
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06-08-2024, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
so you believe that Clapper and Brennan, to name two of the most notable liars, who both had secret clearance (the bulk of the rest did too) and they authored this letter WITHOUT checking with their many agency contacts? they were still getting secret intel briefings. and you think they didn't know?
you really believe that?
bahahhaaa
FBI ‘verified’ authenticity of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop in November 2019: IRS whistleblower
https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/fbi-ve...-gary-shapley/
the evidence of a coverup and election interference is OVERWHELMING and UNDENIABLE
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I really believe it. Why because intelligence agencies work with need to know for a reason.
You are also putting the FBI’s decision to not give out information on the laptop in the very worst light. The FBI’s default mode is always “no comment”. It’s the safest way to do business. In fact the decision to release any information of any kind usually involves a FOI request.
There is NO election interference and there is NO cover up. Again if there was then James Comer might have found something during all of his investigative efforts in the last few years.
Instead the result was bupkis because that is all there was.
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06-08-2024, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
I really believe it. Why because intelligence agencies work with need to know for a reason.
You are also putting the FBI’s decision to not give out information on the laptop in the very worst light. The FBI’s default mode is always “no comment”. It’s the safest way to do business. In fact the decision to release any information of any kind usually involves a FOI request.
There is NO election interference and there is NO cover up. Again if there was then James Comer might have found something during all of his investigative efforts in the last few years.
Instead the result was bupkis because that is all there was.
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is this the safest way to do biz?
FBI admits they knew Hunter Biden’s laptop was real when they killed the story
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...hoCtzgQAvD_BwE
this isn't "No Comment".
they actively killed the story while also knowing months earlier the laptop was authentic
this is influencing an election.
and if you think people like Clapper and Brennan, former heads of the CIA and DNI didn't know you are beyond naive.
btw Clapper and Brennan are liars. they both lied under OATH to congress.
do you really think these guys had any problem at all knowingly authoring a letter then knew was false?
they did it on purpose.
to throw the election.
face it. the "they didn't know" theory is nonsense. these people know if there really are little green men from Alpha Centuri or not.
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06-08-2024, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
is this the safest way to do biz?
FBI admits they knew Hunter Biden’s laptop was real when they killed the story
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...hoCtzgQAvD_BwE
this isn't "No Comment".
they actively killed the story while also knowing months earlier the laptop was authentic
this is influencing an election.
and if you think people like Clapper and Brennan, former heads of the CIA and DNI didn't know you are beyond naive.
btw Clapper and Brennan are liars. they both lied under OATH to congress.
do you really think these guys had any problem at all knowingly authoring a letter then knew was false?
they did it on purpose.
to throw the election.
face it. the "they didn't know" theory is nonsense. these people know if there really are little green men from Alpha Centuri or not.
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You would have thought that at least one of those 51 “experts” watching that Debate would have picked up the phone and demanded to air time to dispute what that lying sack of shit Biden said during said debate.
But no. Not one. They were all in it together. The DNC, the Main Stream Media, the FBI, the entire Swamp, all conniving, lying scum.
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06-08-2024, 07:23 AM
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06-08-2024, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
They were all in it together. The DNC, the Main Stream Media, the FBI, the entire Swamp, all conniving, lying scum.
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Fools dont care because their guy "won". Fools dont care because theyre too stupid to realize they setting up the conditions to end the nation.
They wont change their minds... I just want them to know that when their kids are living in a totalitarian country, it will be their fault.
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06-08-2024, 10:47 AM
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http://www.yahoo.com/news/former-oba...120010903.html
James Clapper, 1 of the 51 “security experts”: lie, lie, lie. And he would lie again.
John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free.
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06-08-2024, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
face it. the "they didn't know" theory is nonsense. these people know if there really are little green men from Alpha Centuri or not.
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
But no. Not one. They were all in it together. The DNC, the Main Stream Media, the FBI, the entire Swamp, all conniving, lying scum.
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Originally Posted by Michael8219
Wake up! They absolutely knew. System is corrupted.
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Originally Posted by texassapper
Fools dont care because their guy "won". Fools dont care because theyre too stupid to realize they setting up the conditions to end the nation.
They wont change their minds... I just want them to know that when their kids are living in a totalitarian country, it will be their fault.
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James Clapper, 1 of the 51 “security experts”: lie, lie, lie. And he would lie again.
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These statements are the true problem here. You biases are right out in front and easy for everyone to see.
The problem is that you don’t trust anyone in a government agency. You are sure that everyone is corrupted. That the institutions and the rules that govern them are broken.
You can’t accept that the simplest explanation is the most likely but would rather believe that every one is a liar and that they are all working together to steal the election to keep corrupt politicians in office.
In this particular case the simplest explanations are:
The people who signed the letter did so in good faith and they did not give any absolutes but rather said that they were suspicious of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The FBI did not confirm or deny the existence or the validity of the Hunter Biden Laptop story. One it’s their policy not to disclose any information on an investigation if they don’t have to. Secondly any information that they could have provided was already in the hands of Giuliani. Saying anything at all would have been highly prejudicial. Thirdly any confirmation of any kind would have brought out more disinformation not less and the fact is that the information on the laptop was only detrimental to Hunter and not his father. Fourthly the FBI is not a gossip rag like the enquirer.
In conclusion your theories as to the culpability of the 51 security experts that signed the letter is total hogwash. The fact that the FBI knew about the laptop had no bearing on the matter whatsoever.
I can guarantee you that if any wrongdoing was to be found then James Comer and Jim Jordan would have found it.
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06-08-2024, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
These statements are the true problem here. You biases are right out in front and easy for everyone to see.
The problem is that you don’t trust anyone in a government agency. You are sure that everyone is corrupted. That the institutions and the rules that govern them are broken.
You can’t accept that the simplest explanation is the most likely but would rather believe that every one is a liar and that they are all working together to steal the election to keep corrupt politicians in office.
In this particular case the simplest explanations are:
The people who signed the letter did so in good faith and they did not give any absolutes but rather said that they were suspicious of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The FBI did not confirm or deny the existence or the validity of the Hunter Biden Laptop story. One it’s their policy not to disclose any information on an investigation if they don’t have to. Secondly any information that they could have provided was already in the hands of Giuliani. Saying anything at all would have been highly prejudicial. Thirdly any confirmation of any kind would have brought out more disinformation not less and the fact is that the information on the laptop was only detrimental to Hunter and not his father. Fourthly the FBI is not a gossip rag like the enquirer.
In conclusion your theories as to the culpability of the 51 security experts that signed the letter is total hogwash. The fact that the FBI knew about the laptop had no bearing on the matter whatsoever.
I can guarantee you that if any wrongdoing was to be found then James Comer and Jim Jordan would have found it.
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dude, come on. how many official reports after all this time can you read and not see there was a coverup and that these experts knew about the laptop being authentic months before their knowingly false statements.
remember .. these people aren't just some minor government officials, these people all had secret or better clearance.
they knew. they lied. it's that simple.
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06-08-2024, 03:04 PM
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I’m done with this conversation.
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06-08-2024, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
dude, come on. how many official reports after all this time can you read and not see there was a coverup and that these experts knew about the laptop being authentic months before their knowingly false statements.
remember .. these people aren't just some minor government officials, these people all had secret or better clearance.
they knew. they lied. it's that simple.
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They can't admit it, although they know in their hearts it's true. TO admit it, is to admit they were duped and made fools of. That's a hard thing to admit publicly.
I was duped into supporting the Iraq war. I was fooled, and I shouldn't have been. What sealed the deal for me was Powell. A man I'd met and admired. He lied. He flat fcuking lied and I have zero value for the mans integrity now. None. He is as dishonorable as W, and that shit bird VP and his dumb ass daughter.
But to liberals their politics IS their identity.. it's what the preach and its what they practice.
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06-08-2024, 05:51 PM
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Which is worse. The ones who perpetrated the lie, or those that still believe the lie, (or see nothing wrong with it), even after the lie has been proven to be just that, a LIE.
Of course, both have a valid excuse. Trump Derangement Syndrome, which obviously turns otherwise normal thinking people into Parrots for the Democrat/Socialist/Progressive hate America movement.
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06-09-2024, 12:25 PM
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... Tx-Dot is mostly a level-headed fellow, but may be
stunned that the truth is out about the "50" and their
bullshit Big Lie... Some o' the "50" gonna be singing
"a new tune" like a lyre bird when Trump is President again.
When some o' them have to face the music for their bad ways...
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