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11-17-2023, 10:35 AM
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Sadly, this is just the FOX news marching orders to try to sway public sentiment.
They are worried that many news cycles that impune Trumps actions on the famous phone call, and calls from Graham etal, to try to nullify GA votes, so they could finagle a mechanism to change the outcome of Georgia. Just think if a Democrat tried to do that, called a state official in charge of voter validation, and strong arm them! The GOP would be losing their fucking minds.
We've just gotten used to Trump being a criminal, and that anything goes, and laws be damned, court procedures be damned, outcomes be damned, he's going to try to keep anything he can for himself by just strong arming GULLIBLE people.
He should be in jail for the rest of his life.
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I don’t think Fox is trying to sway public opinion. That’s just as much a conspiracy as the “Big Lie” is. If you read some of the material from the Dominion lawsuit it’s fairly obvious that the fox news hosts were just parroting back the material they were reading online and hearing from their viewers.
In emails and texts highlighted in the Dominion filing, you see Fox News figures, including Sean Hannity and Suzanne Scott and Lachlan Murdoch, referring to the need to “respect” the audience. To be clear, by “respect” they didn’t mean “tell the truth” — an act of genuine respect. Instead they meant “represent.”
By putting their viewership above the truth they became an amplification tool for people like Steve Bannon and Donald Trump. Their intent wasn’t to sway opinions but rather to make money by keepings rating high. That allowed them to be used like the cheap whores they are.
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11-17-2023, 07:02 PM
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... Lads, THIS topic here has NOTHING to do with Fox-News.
So let's continue with discussion on the ballots in question.
... It DOES seem funny though - here's the voter fraud
issue surely staring the liberal lads right in the face
and it's "Move on, the election's over."
... Nope... We're gonna see this issue through.
For Truth, Justice and the American Way!
#### Salty
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11-17-2023, 09:45 PM
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About the bold text
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... FULTON COUNTY LAWYERS DISAPPEAR! - BALLOTS DESTROYED!
... Crikey! Would ya look at that! ... Fulton County's
defence team - Donald F. Samuel and Amanda R. Clark Palmer
have motioned to withdraw from the Election Fraud case
in Georgia... Me Political "Insider" mates were reporting
on this today. ... The one with the FAKE ballots.
... If the defence barristers for the County have
requested to withdraw - it likely means that those
alleged "counterfeit" ballots - that are
UNDER COURT SEAL - have surely been destroyed illegally
- and the defence team does not any longer wish to be
associated with the lawlessness.
Fulton was ordered - in this case that went to the
Georgia State Supreme Court - to produce these
absentee ballots months ago - and has surely REFUSED
the order to do so.
Please remember that this was a case challenging 150,000
ballots in the 2020 election for being counterfeit.
The trial has been delayed 2 years.
Remember too - Federal Law requires that ALL election
records must be preserved for 22 months.
... So it does stand to reason that the 2020 election
in Georgia should never have been Certified.
And also that Trump surely WON.
... Fulton County has 30 days to comply.
IF those ballots aint counterfeit - produce them.
WHY the 3 year delay??
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You can find those ballots and put them under an electron microscope and even if there were fraud, you wouldn't get anywhere close to overturning 11,000 votes Trump needed to win Georgia.
And Georgia's just one state. Trump lost by 7 million popular votes and 74 electoral votes. There's no way some kind of massive, nation-wide fraud was perpetrated that put Biden over the top.
Face it Salty, Trump's a loser, in politics at least. The Republican Party needs to get rid of him before America becomes a one party state at the federal level. Trump is dragging down the party.
Beating Biden with someone like Nikki Haley would be easy peasy. But the party base is set on nominating the one candidate Biden will beat.
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11-17-2023, 10:34 PM
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Obviously YOU are NOT aware of how many illegal ballots
are in-question. Me comment there is that Trump WON the state.
WHY are you off-topic and discussing the coming election??
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11-18-2023, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Lads, THIS topic here has NOTHING to do with Fox-News.
So let's continue with discussion on the ballots in question.
... It DOES seem funny though - here's the voter fraud
issue surely staring the liberal lads right in the face
and it's "Move on, the election's over."
... Nope... We're gonna see this issue through.
For Truth, Justice and the American Way!
#### Salty
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You are going to "see this issue through"? You've had 3 years and proven nothing regarding fraud in the 2020 election. Every claim has been investigated and been debunked. Keep trying. Keep losing.
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11-18-2023, 07:06 AM
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Every claim has been investigated and been debunked. Keep trying. Keep losing.
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Which investigations conducted by whom?
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11-18-2023, 07:25 AM
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Which investigations conducted by whom?
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There were approximately 50 law suits filed by Trump and his allies after the election and before Biden took office. Every law suit was rejected by the courts, by judges who were appointed by Trump, Obama, and Bush. The reasons -- NO PROOF!
Ballots were examined and counted 3 times in Georgia by mainly Republican officials and no fraud was found. The same is true in other battleground states. This is all so ridiculous but there still remain a handful of hardcore Trump supporters who still claim, without one iota of proof, that fraud cost Trump the 2020 election.
IF it is indeed Trump-Biden in 2024, Biden and his campaign should continue to hammer "the big lie" to voters at every opportunity.
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11-18-2023, 07:35 AM
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Thank god for people like Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger of Georgia.
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11-18-2023, 07:45 AM
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After Gov Kemp and SOS Raffensberger refused to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia, Trump, in his vindictive ways, campaigned heavily against both men in their 2022 reelection attempts. Both won handily, certainly helped by Trump. And Georgia has 2 Democratic Senators, certain helped by Trump.
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11-18-2023, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
There were approximately 50 law suits filed by Trump and his allies after the election and before Biden took office. Every law suit was rejected by the courts, by judges who were appointed by Trump, Obama, and Bush. The reasons -- NO PROOF!
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So by your own admission there was no investigation because the suits were never allowed to be argued. You say that was because there was NO PROOF. How can the existence of "proof" be established without an investigation? BTW proof is a silly word.... try using evidence. The fact is those suits were dismissed for standing and a host of other reasons, so the evidence was NEVER heard. Voila, no "proof".
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Ballots were examined and counted 3 times in Georgia by mainly Republican officials and no fraud was found. The same is true in other battleground states. This is all so ridiculous but there still remain a handful of hardcore Trump supporters who still claim, without one iota of proof, that fraud cost Trump the 2020 election.
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I think it's pretty clear that the Republican leadership had a vested interest in keeping Trump out of office... so saying Republicans reviewed them and found no issues is like saying the cops investigated themselves and found no wrong doing
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IF it is indeed Trump-Biden in 2024, Biden and his campaign should continue to hammer "the big lie" to voters at every opportunity.
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That will only work if there is no evidence... as we've seen there is more and more water coming over the transom...
If there was indeed no fraud, then why were ballots prevented from review by third parties?
There were plenty of irregularities in the 5 locations where the election theft occurred to warrant a FULL investigation.
I'd love to hear what logical explanation you can provide for Ruby Freeman running ballots through the scanners MULTIPLE times.... I'm listening... The only thing that fits ALL of the smoke is that the election was stolen and J6 was a fed led effort like the Reichstag fire.
So what do you think they were doing here?
And to be clear, the manner in which this happened violates State law. That alone should be enough to warrant a FULL investigation which to date has never occurred.
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11-18-2023, 08:08 AM
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So by your own admission there was no investigation because the suits were never allowed to be argued. You say that was because there was NO PROOF. How can the existence of "proof" be established without an investigation? BTW proof is a silly word.... try using evidence. The fact is those suits were dismissed for standing and a host of other reasons, so the evidence was NEVER heard. Voila, no "proof".
I think it's pretty clear that the Republican leadership had a vested interest in keeping Trump out of office... so saying Republicans reviewed them and found no issues is like saying the cops investigated themselves and found no wrong doing
That will only work if there is no evidence... as we've seen there is more and more water coming over the transom...
If there was indeed no fraud, then why were ballots prevented from review by third parties?
There were plenty of irregularities in the 5 locations where the election theft occurred to warrant a FULL investigation.
I'd love to hear what logical explanation you can provide for Ruby Freeman running ballots through the scanners MULTIPLE times.... I'm listening... The only thing that fits ALL of the smoke is that the election was stolen and J6 was a fed led effort like the Reichstag fire.
So what do you think they were doing here?
And to be clear, the manner in which this happened violates State law. That alone should be enough to warrant a FULL investigation which to date has never occurred.
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When someone goes before a judge and claims that fraud was committed in an election in a certain state, they are required to provide evidence of that fraud. In all 50 cases, the judges deemed that there was no evidence of fraud presented. Most were thrown out as being frivolous.
When the ballots were reviewed in the battleground states they were reviewed by members of both parties. Absolutely NO ONE objected to the findings that no fraud had been committed.
I'm not sure what sort of investigation you deem necessary to prove that there was no fraud in the election. Every claim of voter fraud was investigated by the proper officials in the contested states.
Your claim that Ruby Freeman committed fraud is a perfect example of the lunacy of the election deniers. She was guilty of nothing.
"Years after their lives were turned upside down by conspiracy theorists, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss, were officially cleared by Georgia authorities on Tuesday.
Georgia’s State Election Board dismissed its yearslong investigation into alleged election fraud at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, more than two years after conspiracy theorists — and then-President Donald Trump — claimed that Freeman and her daughter had committed election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
The fraud claims were “unsubstantiated and found to have no merit,” the investigation concluded, reporting on the work of the FBI, the Georgia Bureau of Investigations and investigators from the Secretary of State’s office vetting the alleged fraud."
And Rudy Giuliani will pay dearly for his unsubstantiated claims.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...laim-rcna90350
This is just one example of how wrong people who contest the 2020 election results are.
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11-18-2023, 08:12 AM
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When someone goes before a judge and claims that fraud was committed in an election in a certain state, they are required to provide evidence of that fraud. In all 50 cases, the judges deemed that there was no evidence of fraud presented. Most were thrown out as being frivolous.
When the ballots were reviewed in the battleground states they were reviewed by members of both parties. Absolutely NO ONE objected to the findings that no fraud had been committed.
I'm not sure what sort of investigation you deem necessary to prove that there was no fraud in the election. Every claim of voter fraud was investigated by the proper officials in the contested states.
Your claim that Ruby Freeman committed fraud is a perfect example of the lunacy of the election deniers. She was guilty of nothing.
"Years after their lives were turned upside down by conspiracy theorists, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss, were officially cleared by Georgia authorities on Tuesday.
Georgia’s State Election Board dismissed its yearslong investigation into alleged election fraud at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, more than two years after conspiracy theorists — and then-President Donald Trump — claimed that Freeman and her daughter had committed election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
The fraud claims were “unsubstantiated and found to have no merit,” the investigation concluded, reporting on the work of the FBI, the Georgia Bureau of Investigations and investigators from the Secretary of State’s office vetting the alleged fraud."
And Rudy Giuliani will pay dearly for his unsubstantiated claims.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...laim-rcna90350
This is just one example of how wrong people who contest the 2020 election results are.
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So you won't answer the question... Who are you goona believe corrupt bureucrats or your lying eyes. Why were those cases of ballots pre positioned at 8AM on election day, and why were they running them through the tabulator multiple times? Just give me a logical explanation of what the camera is showing... not what the "official narrative is"
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11-18-2023, 09:03 AM
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To the untrained eye …
MAYBE Speed’s eyes aren’t lying. Ever consider that, “sapper?” Maybe they’re yours.
Perhaps you like your fellow Trump cultists swallowed the Big Lie hook line and sinker and desperately need something to soothe the pain of being roundly rejected at the ballot box and in every courthouse in America.
The rage whining hasn’t slowed down since prior to the 2020 election.
Look a calendar, bro.
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11-18-2023, 12:33 PM
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To the untrained eye …
MAYBE Speed’s eyes aren’t lying. Ever consider that, “sapper?” Maybe they’re yours.
Perhaps you like your fellow Trump cultists swallowed the Big Lie hook line and sinker and desperately need something to soothe the pain of being roundly rejected at the ballot box and in every courthouse in America.
The rage whining hasn’t slowed down since prior to the 2020 election.
Look a calendar, bro.
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... WRONG there, sir.
... You're forgetting THIS ONE! ... The State SUPREME Court
in Georgia - the one that's surely concerning THIS thread.
... The Court that has said - "SHOW THE BALLOTS!"
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11-19-2023, 04:26 AM
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Election fraud is food for dummies. It’s like cake. They just keep eating it. They don’t realize it’s made from shit though. This is the stupidest thing going 3 years later. Trump supports in particular love eating this shit over and over.
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