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Old 10-16-2016, 06:42 PM   #31
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Shari law should never by part of the US legal system. Just as the 10 commandments, orthodox Judaic laws, or the 8 pillars of Buddhism should not be.

I denounce all of those as far as superseding the constitution or US laws. That is no different than my belief that Sunday blue laws are wrong. If anyone wants to follow kosher or halaal dietary practices for themselves, fast during Ramadan or on Good Friday, fine. Just do it as your own religious belief, not because I need follow your religious beliefs.

That is one of the reasons I am for the decriminalization of prostitution, the taxing of religious property, and several other changes that would increase the separation between church and state. All churches.
I completely agree with you here. I would add that if you tax the churches, all 501c3's need to pay tax, also.
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:44 PM   #32
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You know, 1500 years ago, there were no islamic countries or sharia law.

Islam is a religion of total domination and supremacy. The western world is in their sights to conquer. We must expel this plague. I do not want the western hemisphere or europe to fall into a dark ages.
The ironic thing is that the liberals who support this rampant invasion disguised as immigration will see the feminists and gays all killed off. Sad for them, the stupidity of liberals will lead to their demise.
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Old 10-16-2016, 07:23 PM   #33
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You know, 1500 years ago, there were no islamic countries or sharia law.

Islam is a religion of total domination and supremacy. The western world is in their sights to conquer. We must expel this plague. I do not want the western hemisphere or europe to fall into a dark ages.
And 2100 years ago there were no Christian countries.

And with the steel of the conquistadors, inquisitors, and crusaders, Christianity was a religion of total domination and supremacy. Galileo might have something to say about that. I know for certain that Po Pe would.

By the way, there are still several questions on the table for you to answer--you made some statements, and when called on them you conveniently ignore them.
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Old 10-16-2016, 07:24 PM   #34
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I completely agree with you here. I would add that if you tax the churches, all 501c3's need to pay tax, also.
I will reserve judgement about "all", but in theory I would not have a problem with that. Maybe all with funds over a certain dollar amount.

I worked for several years with some 501c3 organizations--grade school after school sports teams for example--with total operating expenses of a couple hundred dollars a year that went for uniforms, basketballs, and oranges at half time.
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I will reserve judgement about "all", but in theory I would not have a problem with that. Maybe all with funds over a certain dollar amount.

I worked for several years with some 501c3 organizations--grade school after school sports teams for example--with total operating expenses of a couple hundred dollars a year that went for uniforms, basketballs, and oranges at half time.

Today's Po Pe is a communist.

Anyway...


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Old 10-16-2016, 08:35 PM   #36
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Do you really think Trump is running because he can win?
He is running because Hillary didn't stand a chance against anyone else. Democrats were allowed to chose between Hillary and a socialist who wanted 90% tax rates. The DNC planned to discredit Bernie all along.
The media gave us Trump to ensure Hillary became president.
They thank you all for your support.
90% tax rates? Don't be retarded. This is same bullshit made up number spewing that has fucked up this election. Nobody knows what's what anymore.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:03 PM   #37
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Shari law should never by part of the US legal system. Just as the 10 commandments, orthodox Judaic laws, or the 8 pillars of Buddhism should not be.

I denounce all of those as far as superseding the constitution or US laws. That is no different than my belief that Sunday blue laws are wrong. If anyone wants to follow kosher or halaal dietary practices for themselves, fast during Ramadan or on Good Friday, fine. Just do it as your own religious belief, not because I need follow your religious beliefs.

That is one of the reasons I am for the decriminalization of prostitution, the taxing of religious property, and several other changes that would increase the separation between church and state. All churches.
I agree with most of what you're saying. All those things should be taught. But the federal government needs to stay out of it. Leave it to the states and localities. And as far as taxing churches and 501(c)(3)s, I still support ending the income tax. Problem solved. With more Liberty.
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Want the feds out of the schools? Quit taking their money.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:18 PM   #39
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Want the feds out of the schools? Quit taking their money.
That, too.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:17 AM   #40
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Do you really think Trump is running because he can win?
He is running because Hillary didn't stand a chance against anyone else. Democrats were allowed to chose between Hillary and a socialist who wanted 90% tax rates. The DNC planned to discredit Bernie all along.
The media gave us Trump to ensure Hillary became president.
They thank you all for your support.
If the media gave you trump? He ran because he was the only guy who couldn't beat her?
It wasn't me, man. The media gave him to us. We didn't have anything to do with it.
Trump's favorite supporters.
The first to believe him and the first to turn tail and run. Because they didn't pick him at all. He was given to you.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:33 AM   #41
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I agree with most of what you're saying. All those things should be taught. They shouldn't have to be taught. If they don't have it pushed on them they don't need to be indoctrinated against them. But for the feds, Texas would be a 10 commandment state. But the federal government needs to stay out of it. Leave it to the states and localities. And as far as taxing churches and 501(c)(3)s, I still support ending the income tax. Problem solved. With more Liberty.
The same reason we all use dollars. There has to be a standard. You only have to look at the Texas Board of Education and the beliefs of some of it's members regarding science and religion. The feds are holding back the morons.
Are there problems? Of course there are.
What plan do you have that protects us from the whack jobs and doesn't change every few years??
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:20 AM   #42
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So, you want the Feds to deny the parents the right to teach their children their sincerely held beliefs?

We had local control of the schools in the 1940's and we kicked the whole world's ass in WWII, you stinkin' commie bastard.
Angry, ugly words aside, the fucking constitution provides for a separation of church and state. Teaching children is NOT the job of our public, tax-funded schools. That's the parents job and their church's. Period.
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I will reserve judgement about "all", but in theory I would not have a problem with that. Maybe all with funds over a certain dollar amount.

I worked for several years with some 501c3 organizations--grade school after school sports teams for example--with total operating expenses of a couple hundred dollars a year that went for uniforms, basketballs, and oranges at half time.
Great point - that is likely the original intention.
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Angry, ugly words aside, the fucking constitution provides for a separation of church and state. Teaching children is NOT the job of our public, tax-funded schools. That's the parents job and their church's. Period.
Actually:

The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

The 10th:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So Congress cannot make laws that prohibit what local schools teach. Go live in a gay loving, liberal city like Austin and they can teach what they want. In other areas, we teach what we want.
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Government schools to control kids, government media to control adults.

This is scary.
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...dia-for-adults
Don Henley wrote Dirty Laundry in response to the media feeding frenzy when James Belushi died of an overdose. The lryics he wrote are even more true today and sadly about a wider variety of topics.

The last stanza being so apropo to what is happening in regards to what the Liberal Media is doing to Donald Trump. Just put out the "innuendos" and the Grubers will suck it up and even build on it.


I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something, something I can use
People love it when you lose
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda' been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
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Give us dirty laundry
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
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Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash
With a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom
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Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pies
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!
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