Bloomberg Gets Richer off Trump Then Runs Against Trump

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Lapdog

Jealous much?

as usual you miss the point, it's hypocritical of Bloomberg to claim Trump's economy is somehow failing while at the same time his own interests have done well. it's also false liberal nonsense to claim that Trump's economy only "works" for the ultra wealthy. a common "complaint" about the tax cuts is it didn't apply to the middle class which it clearly did. the left claims the savings were minimal. that depends on how much you make. if you work at Mickey D's your tax cut is minimal. I don't work at Mickey D's. my rate dropped from 28% to 24% which saves me about 5k in taxes.



people complaining about minimal tax savings should get a better paying job.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

....

people complaining about minimal tax savings should get a better paying job.

And people whining about no coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ought to GET A JOB with insurance coverage .... which includes by definition ... coverage for "pre-existing" conditions.

Trump has signed EO's requiring coverages until congress decides to get off the stupid shit they've been doing and pass a bill so he can sign it.

Nancy has coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ...

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

as usual you miss the point, ...

He usually does ... except for the one on his head. If you noticed ...

... he has absolutely NOTHING to contribute of substance to the discussion.....

.... neither does JacksAss, the alleged firefighter, .....

They both remind me of those old 78 records with a scratch in it.

I'm thinking they BOTH have this "problem"!!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

The Tale of the Tape! .... Ticker Tape that is!

Since Trump's election "Bloomie's" wealth has grown about $10 BILLION

!

Again do you and Wacko understand that Bloomberg is making money at the same trajectory as when Obama was President...without the recession, he was doing great under Bush.

It looks like Trump is the one having trouble expanding his wealth!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by WTF

Again do you and Wacko understand that Bloomberg is making money at the same trajectory as when Obama was President...without the recession, he was doing great under Bush.

It looks like Trump is the one having trouble expanding his wealth!

which throws a wrench in your leftist jabbering that Trump became president to line his pockets doesn't it? while it's not true Trump has lost bigly across the board, some of his properties have reduced revenue, others have increased. surprisingly his overseas businesses are the ones that have gained. his US business has been flat or reduced. how many times have the leftist anti-Trumpers here claimed that the World hates Trump? well they don't seem to hate his businesses around the world do they?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

And people whining about no coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ought to GET A JOB with insurance coverage .... which includes by definition ... coverage for "pre-existing" conditions.

Trump has signed EO's requiring coverages until congress decides to get off the stupid shit they've been doing and pass a bill so he can sign it.

Nancy has coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ...

and that woman has every pre-existing condition ever known! mainly in the mental health area ..


BAHHAAAAA


the left falsely makes pre-existing conditions some huge issue when it's not. it was only an issue for people who have coverage as individuals, self employed types. that is only a small segment of the overall insurance pool. that the left would destroy private insurance providers for a Government controlled system just to favor a small minority of people shows both their stupidity and their desire for the Government to control all things in all ways. there's a word for that .. Socialism.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by WTF

Again do you and Wacko understand that Bloomberg is making money at the same trajectory as when Obama was President...without the recession, he was doing great under Bush.

It looks like Trump is the one having trouble expanding his wealth!

The slope of the curve looks the same in the Obama years and the Trump years. LL is the newbie "accountant" who has trouble counting.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

The slope of the curve looks the same in the Obama years and the Trump years. LL is the newbie "accountant" who has trouble counting.

weren't you one of the leftists here that claimed Trump would destroy the economy? like Paul Krugman did?

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

weren't you one of the leftists here that claimed Trump would destroy the economy? like Paul Krugman did?

I never said any such thing. I have 586 posts, it would be easy find it, if I did. I never said or wrote anything close to that.

[Munchmasterman]

Got you again

You got caught lying again while pretending to be relevant.

You don't know shit about where you once lived or where you live now.

It really humors me to punch holes in your ignorant guesses.

As far as a point goes, you don't have one. Unless it was getting called on your normal bullshit.

Thank YOU for proving my numerous points

You don't know Austin.
You don't know Houston.
You don't know Texas.
You don't know the difference between the burden of proof for civil and criminal courts.

You don't know shit.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

And when did you move to Austin?

(You do realize you're PROVING my point ... but carry on Mr. KnowNothing!)

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

which throws a wrench in your leftist jabbering that Trump became president to line his pockets doesn't it? while it's not true Trump has lost bigly across the board, some of his properties have reduced revenue, others have increased. surprisingly his overseas businesses are the ones that have gained. his US business has been flat or reduced. how many times have the leftist anti-Trumpers here claimed that the World hates Trump? well they don't seem to hate his businesses around the world do they?

It looks like compared to Bloomberg, Trump was a shitty businessman before he was President and after.

He is just a good TV personality. which might be all it takes to get reelected. We shall see.

[Munchmasterman]

You've been caught lying again.

The only way anyone can believe what you say without checking is because you are saying what they want to hear. But hey, just between you and me, you know only morons believe your non-linked babblings.

trump is trying to delay action on health care until after the election.
Below is "Pants on Fire" rating.

Trump’s claim that he ‘saved’ pre-ex conditions ‘part fantasy, part delusion’


President Donald Trump attempted to take credit for one of the most popular elements of the Affordable Care Act: Its protection for people who have preexisting medical conditions.

"I was the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your healthcare," Trump tweeted on Jan. 13.

The protection for people with medical problems has been a rallying cry for Democrats, and they used the issue to help propel their widespread election victories in 2018.

Trump repeatedly has sought to align himself with this issue – in May, for instance, claiming he would "always protect patients with preexisting conditions." We rated that claim False. His re-election campaign has made similar claims, which experts debunked.

Trump’s recent claim that he "saved" that guarantee of coverage adds a new twist, though. We contacted the White House to find out the basis for this statement.

Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, told us, "President Trump has repeatedly stated his commitment to protect individuals with preexisting conditions and his track record shows that he has consistently done what is necessary to improve care for the vulnerable." Deere also pointed us to a range of other policy initiatives – such as efforts on kidney health, approving generic drugs and loosening restrictions on short-term health plans.

But none of those addressed the basis of Trump’s tweet.

The health policy experts we consulted, however, were unambiguous: The president’s claim has no factual basis and flies in the face of his ongoing policy efforts.

"I feel like we’re being gas-lit," said Linda Blumberg, a health economist at the Urban Institute. "You can’t tell me you’re the savior of people with preexisting conditions when every single thing you’ve said or done is the opposite of that." (Gaslighting means manipulating the telling of events in such a way it leads people to question their recollections.)

This skepticism persisted across the political spectrum.

"That’s a rather extended version of aspirational rhetoric short of any evidence," said Tom Miller, a resident fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

The preexisting condition protection

Under the Affordable Care Act, or ACA, health insurance plans cannot charge people higher prices because they have a medical condition. This protection has been intact since the law took effect, under then-President Barack Obama.

As a 2016 candidate, Trump promised to repeal and replace the health law. That came to a head in 2017, when the law came within one vote in the Senate of being undone.

"That tweet is part fantasy, part delusion, part politics, and all lie," said Jonathan Oberlander, a health policy professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. "The president is lying about preexisting conditions. He supported, and continues to support, efforts to repeal the ACA that would take those consumer protections away."

After that effort, Blumberg said, the president boasted that he had dismantled Obamacare – which is not only untrue, but, she added, confused many consumers.
Since then, the president has maintained his desire to undo the ACA and replace it with something new.

Neither his administration nor congressional Republicans have yet offered a replacement plan. None of the bills they have endorsed would maintain the guarantees of coverage for people with medical problems.

"By supporting repeal of the ACA, they’re supporting repeal of protecting preexisting condition prohibitions," Robert Berenson, another analyst at the Urban Institute, previously told us.

Texas v. Azar

Meanwhile, the Trump administration’s work elsewhere could undo the protection.

A group of Republican-led states are suing to have the entire ACA dismantled. Their argument stems from a law Trump signed: the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017.

That law gutted the individual mandate – the ACA’s requirement that everyone have coverage or pay a penalty – by reducing the penalty to $0.

In this case, known as Texas vs. Azar, the Republican states are arguing that the individual mandate was central to the ACA, and that without it, the entire law must be taken down. That would include the protections for people with preexisting conditions.

The administration has declined to defend the law in court, a move legal analysts have called almost unprecedented. The case is widely expected to go to the Supreme Court. Since the White House has unveiled no replacement, striking the law would leave a policy vacuum, allowing health plans to revert to discriminating against people with medical issues.

Miller argued that the still-pending court case and previous repeal efforts don’t necessarily mean there’s any imminent threat of the president gutting the ACA’s preexisting condition protections.

"For pure public opinion purposes, you want to say you’re protecting against preexisting condition protections," Miller said. "Does he know how to do it? No. Is he doing anything trying to change it? Not really."

But others noted that the administration’s stance is firmly against maintaining the ACA’s prohibitions.

"The Democrats have correctly said the Trump administration has in fact opposed protections for preexisting conditions by endorsing the lawsuit," Berenson said.

Our ruling

Trump tweeted that he "was the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your healthcare."

The president had nothing to do with the ban on health insurance plans discriminating against people with preexisting conditions. This consumer protection is a core part of the health care law that became law during the Obama presidency. Trump has expressly supported the repeal of this law without offering a replacement that would keep the protection intact.

And to this day, his administration is arguing in court that the law – including this provision – should be undone.

The president’s tweet is not only untrue, but it misrepresents his administration’s efforts to repeal the health care law without offering any replacement that might maintain its core protections. We rate this claim Pants on Fire.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ns-part-fanta/


So all these great trump jobs don't have adequate health insurance?

Surprise, surprise.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

And people whining about no coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ought to GET A JOB with insurance coverage .... which includes by definition ... coverage for "pre-existing" conditions.

Trump has signed EO's requiring coverages until congress decides to get off the stupid shit they've been doing and pass a bill so he can sign it.

Nancy has coverage for "pre-existing" conditions ...

[Munchmasterman]

Are you pretty stupid or what? That was a rhetorical question with an obvious answer.
Where the fuck do you get your information?

You don't read much, do you?

102 Million People in U.S. Have Pre-Existing Conditions, Study Says. Here’s Why That Figure Is Suddenly Important.

https://fortune.com/2018/10/24/medic...-aca-midterms/

The Center for Consumer Information & Insurance Oversight
At Risk: Pre-Existing Conditions Could Affect 1 in 2 Americans:
129 Million People Could Be Denied Affordable Coverage Without Health Reform

https://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Resources/...es/preexisting

Okay, do it. Bray like a jackass for us.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

and that woman has every pre-existing condition ever known! mainly in the mental health area ..


BAHHAAAAA


the left falsely makes pre-existing conditions some huge issue when it's not. it was only an issue for people who have coverage as individuals, self employed types. that is only a small segment of the overall insurance pool. that the left would destroy private insurance providers for a Government controlled system just to favor a small minority of people shows both their stupidity and their desire for the Government to control all things in all ways. there's a word for that .. Socialism.

Now don't forget.
Your total bullshit lie has been debunked. Don't use it again.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Kinda!

Are you sure he's not "close" to his daughter?

what do you mean kinda????


He has two daughters. He's close to his kids.



anyway, Georgina is pretty much yum, yum!!!


his girlfried on the other hand.... yuck.. what does he see in her????


she's a former NYC comptroller during his run as mayor of NYC.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

LL is the newbie "accountant" who has trouble counting.

I guess your slanderous remarks is to conclude "Bloomie" has lost money while Trump's been President so that's why "Bloomie" wants to get elected so he can straighten up the "curves"?

BTW: "Accountants" don't read "charts"! They can convert their spreadsheets today with spreadsheet apps that create them.

So who is "YOUR" candidate?