Provider's Rates: Self worth vs Perceived Value

[BatteriesNotIncluded]

Self worth? Gee I hope every woman considers themselves beyond price in the hobby. Whether you charge $80 or $800 per hour should not reflect on you as a human being or woman. Charge what you think will meet your income goals on a sustainable basis. And avoid the noise outside of ad sections and your customer feedback.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

Self worth as in, how much do you think your looks/body/personality/skill will fetch in a given market. Not actual self esteem, though that does play a factor. Just defining terms for those that seem a bit lost.

[blowpop]

There is only one truly effective way to set your rates: Price yourself at what the market will bear. This is true in any line of work where you can set your rate and your hours.

1. Determine how many hours a week you want to work.
2. Set your rate, do your advertising.
3. If, after a period of time to build credibility with your audience, you aren't booking enough hours, your rate is too high.
4. If you can book far more hours than your target, your rate is too low.
5. Adjust your rates periodically to get to the number of hours you want to work.

There will be fluctuations based on many factors, but this is the best technique I'm aware of to maximize your earning without working yourself to death.

P.S. Providers, when accepting advice from others, never forget that their advice takes THEIR best interest into account.

- Other providers are better served if your rates are higher. Being undercut hurts their business.
- Most hobbyists are better served if your rates are lower, for obvious reasons.
- High rollers are better served if your rates are higher, because your availability for them will be better.
- A few folks honestly want to help. It's up to you to figure out who they are.

Bottom line is to do set your rates to achieve your goals, both in terms of revenue generated and hours worked. And only you can determine what balance is right for you.

[CivilBarrister]

Or as I suspect most providers use the following formula:

Damn, I am much prettier then her so I am going to charge $50 more. And I know I give the world's best CBJ - so I am certainly worth the extra $$.

[Guest050715-1]

Pay attention to the above ladies whilst you read all of his post:

Originally Posted by blowpop

- Other providers are better served if your rates are higher. Being undercut hurts their business.

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Originally Posted by blowpop

1. Determine how many hours a week you want to work.

Determine what you need to pay your bills and run your business FIRST. Given what you sell off to become a working girl, if you cannot meet your financial goals based on your looks, the market and your availability, perhaps you should consider another line of work.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- 2. Set your rate,

Take what you need to make and consider the following.
1 – How you measure out in the market
2 – What the market will bear
3 – Your availability, i.e., incall, can you travel do overnights / travel, hours you can work (The less you can work and the hotter you are, the more you can charge.)

Originally Posted by blowpop

- do your advertising.

That which you tend is successful. Tend your whole business which includes marketing, going to meet and greats, etc. as well as advertising.

It may be a lifestyle, but rest assured, it's a business. The lifestyle goes out the door if you can't run your business.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- 3. If, after a period of time to build credibility with your audience, you aren't booking enough hours, your rate is too high.

There is some truth to this, but it is best to restructure your rates if you can. If you simply must, reduce your rate, then it’s best to offer specials such as an Early Bird Special for $250 or something like that. Trust me, men will try to book you all day long at $250, you can choose to do it or not.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- 4. If you can book far more hours than your target, your rate is too low.

It is much, much harder to raise your rates than reduce them. You will have reviews at your lower rate so new, potential clients will know you had an old, lower rate. They can be touchy about paying more than the last guy. In fact, you’d be surprised how many times your envelope will be short your new rate and have just your old rate in it. It’s up to you if you want to push the issue.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- 5. Adjust your rates periodically to get to the number of hours you want to work.

I don’t recommend this at all. See above.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- There will be fluctuations based on many factors, but this is the best technique I'm aware of to maximize your earning without working yourself to death.

There are fluctuations in any business. YOU remain steady, maintain your looks – including your weight – and avoid drama, and you will be successful.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- Most hobbyists are better served if your rates are lower, for obvious reasons.
- High rollers are better served if your rates are higher, because your availability for them will be better.

It’s all about the clients! And the better clients are at the higher end of rate spectrum. There are men that absolutely won't see women that are below a certain benchmark. The better your clientele the better your experience will be.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- - A few folks honestly want to help. It's up to you to figure out who they are.

Make sure the “help” is really help and is coming from the right place in someone’s heart. There’s nothing wrong with sugar daddies or patrons, just be sure the exchange is quid pro quo.

Originally Posted by blowpop

- Bottom line is to do set your rates to achieve your goals, both in terms of revenue generated and hours worked. And only you can determine what balance is right for you.

This is the only truth and non-self serving content in this whole post.

Originally Posted by blowpop

There is only one truly effective way to set your rates: Price yourself at what the market will bear. This is true in any line of work where you can set your rate and your hours.

Originally Posted by CivilBarrister

Or as I suspect most providers use the following formula:

Damn, I am much prettier then her so I am going to charge $50 more. And I know I give the world's best CBJ - so I am certainly worth the extra $$.

Your looks and the market both have a lot to do with your rates regardless of how negatively it’s said.

[Sarunga]

Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

Please don't bring your bullshit here. If you want to follow certain guys around here like a shrimp after fish shit, do it elsewhere. Thank you.

Oh, and please don't mind me doing it: http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=27

You are welcome.

[tbone2u]

Be careful LD....he'll be sniffing your ass soon

BTW.....good thread

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

I know, it's pathetic.

[Seedy]

LD, I think someone wants you to put a strap on, on, and punk him in the ass, you have a new admirer. Lol

[rhino9]

Far be it from me to point out some obvious misconceptions by one who is so beautiful, talented and business aware....but please indulge me briefly.
These comments are without rancour and are not meant to demean or denigrate anyone.

[QUOTE=OliviaHoward;1052990991]Pay attention to the above ladies whilst you read all of his post:

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Determine what you need to pay your bills and run your business FIRST. Given what you sell off to become a working girl, if you cannot meet your financial goals based on your looks, the market and your availability, perhaps you should consider another line of work.

Now this is really good advice..!
If you have the skills to make 1000/week, go ahead and consider a straight job.
Oh....you might have to work 45-50 hrs/week and show up on time and take endless shit from co-workers, bosses, the public or whatever....but you can do it.

Trust me, men will try to book you all day long at $250, you can choose to do it or not.
Interesting...and we know all strippers leave the club with over $1K each day...NOT.!
If your statements were valid...please explain why are there so many ads with rates much lower than this.?
Perhaps the large number of ladies that are unable to make ends meet have been overlooked here...
$250/hr...Hell, many would be happy with enough business at 100/hr. to make ends meet, but they can't or won't advertise...

It is much, much harder to raise your rates than reduce them.
This is blatantly false on its face.
If you have so much business you are turning them away...raise your rates. Otherwise...work the market...like all businesses do.

There are fluctuations in any business. YOU remain steady, maintain your looks – including your weight – and avoid drama, and you will be successful.
This is excellent advice...maintaining your skills, appearance, health and professionalism is a requirement for any job. Many consultants go to schools in between contracts to stay up to date in the market.

But this has nothing to do with rates...they are market driven.
If you don't have enough business...do something to get more...dropping your rates is not the only option...but it does work.

Many consultants find that the contracted rates they had for the last 6 months are no longer available as the market has changed.
We work with it...just as all businesses do.

It’s all about the clients! And the better clients are at the higher end of rate spectrum. There are men that absolutely won't see women that are below a certain benchmark. The better your clientele the better your experience will be.
This is also blatantly false...Many of us know guys that pay very high rates and treat the ladies like shit, sometimes to the point of physical harm...but after all...he is paying really high rates for what he wants.
Few ladies that I know will persist in that arrangement. Higher end rates does not assure you of a gentlemen.

Make sure the “help” is really help and is coming from the right place in someone’s heart. There’s nothing wrong with sugar daddies or patrons, just be sure the exchange is quid pro quo.
Very good point.!
Competent business people always recommend taking advice from your most aggressive competiton.
After all, they would never take your business..

Ladies, look around, use your head.!!
Kinda like running a lemonade stand...It is just not that hard to figure out...

Just my $0.02...
L8r
r9

[tbone2u]

Lemonade/Pussy....interesting

[Dorian Gray]

[Guest072624]

I dont see it as a self esteem issue for me personally. I have a degree in Marketing and basically my rate is from that standpoint only. Supply and demand. It also has to do for me with the clientele. When i first began at a different rate i attracted clients who were not in realm for me to comfortable. The riff raff and all. Im comfortable with my rate now and it will stay as such.

[Guest050715-1]

You're a known negotiator, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you've never been a working girl.

[QUOTE=rhino9;1053057956]Far be it from me to point out some obvious misconceptions by one who is so beautiful, talented and business aware....but please indulge me briefly.
These comments are without rancour and are not meant to demean or denigrate anyone.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Pay attention to the above ladies whilst you read all of his post:

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Determine what you need to pay your bills and run your business FIRST. Given what you sell off to become a working girl, if you cannot meet your financial goals based on your looks, the market and your availability, perhaps you should consider another line of work.

Now this is really good advice..!
If you have the skills to make 1000/week, go ahead and consider a straight job.
Oh....you might have to work 45-50 hrs/week and show up on time and take endless shit from co-workers, bosses, the public or whatever....but you can do it.

If $1,000 a week will pay your bills and you have the qualifications to get a that nets $1,000 a week with bennies, by all means.

Trust me, men will try to book you all day long at $250, you can choose to do it or not.
Interesting...and we know all strippers leave the club with over $1K each day...NOT.!

I wouldn't know. I don't go to strip clubs.

If your statements were valid...please explain why are there so many ads with rates much lower than this.?
Perhaps the large number of ladies that are unable to make ends meet have been overlooked here...
$250/hr...Hell, many would be happy with enough business at 100/hr. to make ends meet, but they can't or won't advertise...

Perhaps then if a woman may want to consider a different line of work only supplementing her day job if she is unable to price herself thus. There are minimum requirements.

It is much, much harder to raise your rates than reduce them.
This is blatantly false on its face.
If you have so much business you are turning them away...raise your rates. Otherwise...work the market...like all businesses do.

And the last time you tried to raise your rates was? When?

Ladies, men will read your reviews at your lower rate and inevitably will balk at your higher rate or just leave you the lower rate.

There are fluctuations in any business. YOU remain steady, maintain your looks – including your weight – and avoid drama, and you will be successful.
This is excellent advice...maintaining your skills, appearance, health and professionalism is a requirement for any job. Many consultants go to schools in between contracts to stay up to date in the market.

But this has nothing to do with rates...they are market driven.
If you don't have enough business...do something to get more...dropping your rates is not the only option...but it does work.

No, it is partly market driven and also product driven. To say otherwise is just ridiculous.

Many consultants find that the contracted rates they had for the last 6 months are no longer available as the market has changed.
We work with it...just as all businesses do.

It’s all about the clients! And the better clients are at the higher end of rate spectrum. There are men that absolutely won't see women that are below a certain benchmark. The better your clientele the better your experience will be.
This is also blatantly false...Many of us know guys that pay very high rates and treat the ladies like shit, sometimes to the point of physical harm...but after all...he is paying really high rates for what he wants.
Few ladies that I know will persist in that arrangement. Higher end rates does not assure you of a gentlemen.

And the last time you worked as a working girl was? When? You have no idea what your talking about. The better clients are at the higher end of the rate structure.

Make sure the “help” is really help and is coming from the right place in someone’s heart. There’s nothing wrong with sugar daddies or patrons, just be sure the exchange is quid pro quo.
Very good point.!
Competent business people always recommend taking advice from your most aggressive competiton.
After all, they would never take your business..

I'm retired.

Ladies, look around, use your head.!!
Kinda like running a lemonade stand...It is just not that hard to figure out...

Yes, stay away from known hagglers.

Just my $0.02...
L8r
r9

[tbone2u]

"Yes, stay away from known hagglers".......very good advice