A Thief Among Us

[Guest061415-1]

Originally Posted by newguy2001

I'd agree to point the finger at the person standing at the trunk with the money as a thief no doubt, but I'm curious how they got away with the money?

If you walked to your car to find the back open with money scattered about, and the person with your keys standing there looking at it while you both know that person is suppose to be getting something from the front of the vehicle. Then how does that person still get away with your money from that point?

I'd assume you confronted her on the spot and counted the money to realize what was missing. Then proceed to make sure that person didn't walk another step with your money at that point.

Actually, let's visualize the situation. Ginger and Adrianna are standing behind the car. There is a LOT of cash still in the trunk. Ginger counts the money and finds the amount missing.

She confronts A-XO... when A-XO denies, what does Ginger do? If Ginger does anything physical, then A-XO can yell for the cops. Then how does Ginger explain the wad of cash in the trunk?

On the other hand if Ginger calls the cops, how does she explain the source of money... and why it was in the trunk?

[Wakeup]

Why would she have to explain the source of the money to the cops?

[Mr.Chan]

Quote by Slingerland:
"On the other hand if Ginger calls the cops, how does she explain the source of money... and why it was in the trunk?"

There is nothing police like better than solving two crimes at once.

[Mr.Chan]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Why would she have to explain the source of the money to the cops?

Because it is suspicious. You may have heard that everyone in rural Arkansas cooks meth or grows marijuana. Honest citizens cannot even buy cold medicine without being interrogated by a pharmacist. If you are a policeman and you saw a large sum of money in the trunk of a car would you assume it was being taken to donate to Girl Scouts?

[Sweet N Little]

Sorry this happened to you Ginger. It takes a while to build trust, but only a second to break.


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[horserider]

Originally Posted by newguy2001

I'd agree to point the finger at the person standing at the trunk with the money as a thief no doubt, but I'm curious how they got away with the money?

If you walked to your car to find the back open with money scattered about, and the person with your keys standing there looking at it while you both know that person is suppose to be getting something from the front of the vehicle. Then how does that person still get away with your money from that point?

I'd assume you confronted her on the spot and counted the money to realize what was missing. Then proceed to make sure that person didn't walk another step with your money at that point.

I agree newguy that it is obvious the person standing at the trunk with the money is a thief no doubt, especially with the other admitted theft incidents that have surfaced in this thread.

So how can the thief be allowed to walk away with the money? I would imagine there are several factors that would contribute to the ability of the thief to get away. First I would imagine the total shock that a supposedly good friend would actually steal from you would cause some hesitation/disbelief. I have been in similar situation and one of my first thoughts is "is this really happening, is my (supposedly) good "friend" actually stealing from me". I can only speak from my experience but when this happened to me my blood pressure went so high my ears wrang so bad I couldn't hear for a few seconds from the shock.

Another factor would be, IMHO, can you actually afford to physically take the money back? I don't mean are you strong enough to take it back I mean can you afford to attract the attention a physical confrontation will bring especially in a public place?

Another thing that must be considered is what are you up against if you decide to physically get your money back. I'm sure Ginger can handle herself fine in a one on one situation but if some one were to step in to either help the thief or to break up the confrontation how much physical damage are you willing to endure?

Now last but not least, if you choose to "take" your money back are you willing to explain the situation to LE and can you do this without "exposing who you are" and how you acquired the money?

I admire Ginger for posting this thread and putting the community's safety and welfare ahead of her own safety and welfare. If you think about it in our community trust and discretion play a VERY large role. I trust the ladies to keep my private information private and to be very discrete when we visit and if we happen to meet any time in public. Ginger placed a lot of trust in Adrianna by allowing her into her life, by touring with her, even by PERHAPS allowing her to be involved in her personal life. Now Ginger has exposed her as being the thief she obviously is, as corroborated by others in this thread, and has made herself vulnerable, in a way, to possible future retribution, either verbal or physical, for bringing this to the communities' attention. After all this is E.C.C.I.E. Escort Client Community Information Exchange, where we exchange information, good or bad.

[CPT Savajo]

Thats a screwed up situation! Especially being caught in the act, wow! There are two things I can't stand in life, a liar and a damn theif. Thats tough Ginger. Whatever happens out of this I'm sure you will make the right decision.

[newguy2001]

The point is simple, it doesn't add up.

If you knew you had say $3K in the back of your vehicle and then you walk up on this situation, in many cases someone ends up dead or seriously injured. No matter the place had she confronted her she is fine to do so because it is a felony amount of $$$ we are talking about. The police show up and think having some money safely stored in your vehicle is suspicious you can let them search the rest of the car and see that there is nothing meth or drug like involved. (if you have drugs or other illegal shit in your vehicle then your a dumbass) Then you have two ladies, one a victim one a witness stating what they saw, and the suspect having to explain why she has $1200 cash and her situation.

You let someone just walk away with the money or just pretend like nothing happened and go on for the night. Then I'd say it really does not add up.

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by newguy2001

I'd agree to point the finger at the person standing at the trunk with the money as a thief no doubt, but I'm curious how they got away with the money?

If you walked to your car to find the back open with money scattered about, and the person with your keys standing there looking at it while you both know that person is suppose to be getting something from the front of the vehicle. Then how does that person still get away with your money from that point?

I'd assume you confronted her on the spot and counted the money to realize what was missing. Then proceed to make sure that person didn't walk another step with your money at that point.

If Adrianna and I had been alone in the parking lot, that is exactly what would've happened – I would have used physical force to restrain her, if necessary and would have done anything within my power to get my money back. Unfortunately, she brought her big boyfriend who would have easily overpowered me. Honestly, I was a little intimidated by his presence there – and felt that it was best for me to just get out of the situation. A good portion of the money was still there when I counted it, so I took what was left and got myself to a more secure location.

Keep in mind – we were in the back of a dimly-lit parking lot of a strip club, late at night – wee hours of the morning… And at this point, Sydney had left. The only people that were there were there were me, Adrianna, & her boyfriend. Realizing at this point that they were thieves changed my attitude towards them and the situation, and I did not feel safe alone with them in that parking lot.

Having $1,200 stolen from me was bad enough – but the situation could have easily gotten a lot worse. Cutting my losses really seemed like the best option.

Involving the police in the situation was not an option. Please don't make me explain why!! Even if I had called the police and they found my missing money on Adrianna or her boyfriend, the money didn't have my name on it. It's cash, & there is no proving that cash is yours once it enters the hands of someone else.

[Sonoman]

First why would you or anyone else tell a friend or not a friend you hid $1,200 or whatever the amount is in the trunk of your car? That to me is insane.

Now, I have to agree with newguy. Something is missing in this. If I was standing, watching someone take my money.....I think not. One of us would got our ass beat!!!

Originally Posted by newguy2001

The point is simple, it doesn't add up.

If you knew you had say $3K in the back of your vehicle and then you walk up on this situation, in many cases someone ends up dead or seriously injured. No matter the place had she confronted her she is fine to do so because it is a felony amount of $$$ we are talking about. The police show up and think having some money safely stored in your vehicle is suspicious you can let them search the rest of the car and see that there is nothing meth or drug like involved. (if you have drugs or other illegal shit in your vehicle then your a dumbass) Then you have two ladies, one a victim one a witness stating what they saw, and the suspect having to explain why she has $1200 cash and her situation.

You let someone just walk away with the money or just pretend like nothing happened and go on for the night. Then I'd say it really does not add up.

You state you saw this? But then state you got a phone call. So which is it?

Originally Posted by Sydney Pure

. (Redacted) Gosh. I hate this but I saw what I saw...
Like stated I didn't even know anything was in that trunk until I got thr call later...

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by Sonoman

First why would you or anyone else tell a friend or not a friend you hid $1,200 or whatever the amount is in the trunk of your car? That to me is insane.

It seems to me that you are picking at me with irrelevant questions. That's fine, I'll play. Sydney was in her vehicle, Adriana and I were in mine – all getting ready to leave from my house for the evening out. I explained to Adrianna that I did not feel comfortable leaving my money in the house unattended, when I had not gotten my house key back from my temporary guest at that point. I went back into the house to retrieve the money after we had already gotten into the car to leave – and that's how she became aware of it. And, like an idiot – I confided in her, because I trusted her.

Originally Posted by Sonoman

Now, I have to agree with newguy. Something is missing in this. If I was standing, watching someone take my money.....I think not. One of us would got our ass beat!!!

In my previous post, I've already explained why I felt uncomfortable pursuing anything physical at that point to try to get my money back.

Originally Posted by Sonoman

You state you saw this? But then state you got a phone call. So which is it?

Allow me to explain for Sydney, being she is limited at this point to her hobby phone and she's having trouble posting in this thread.

Sydney and I walked around the corner of the strip club building at the same time, and came upon Adrianna standing at my opened trunk. I realized the significance, because I knew the money was there – Sydney was going to her own car for a different purpose and did not realize the significance of the situation at that time, because she did not know that the money had been placed in the trunk to begin with. She did indeed witness Adrianna standing at my open trunk, but then proceeded to her own vehicle to do what she came out to do. And she left after that. Later, when I phoned her to tell her about the money being stolen from my trunk, she realized the significance of what she saw – but it did not seem like anything significant to her at the time, because she was lacking key information.

[Guest040313-1]

Thank You Ginger.
I personally appreciate you stepping up and letting everyone know what happened.
It’s a shame that any member on this board should have to defend themselves for exposing a thief in the alerts and attempting to keep the playground safe.
MGL

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by megustalatina

Thank You Ginger.
I personally appreciate you stepping up and letting everyone know what happened.
It’s a shame that any member on this board should have to defend themselves for exposing a thief in the alerts and attempting to keep the playground safe.
MGL

Thank you, ML.

I'm almost positive that if any of the naysayers wallets or cash had been stolen by a provider, they would be the first post an alert – and would also feel that they were justified in doing so! I don't see how my situation is any different?!

[TestSpin]

I am sorry about your loss and appreciate you sharing the information with us. I think the distinction between a provider stealing from a hobbyist during a date and a “friend” stealing from a “friend” during a night on the town is that the first example is clearly hobby-related while the second example is less clearly so. I think I recall seeing folks chastised for linking arrest records for things like dui’s on grounds that, even though the person arrested was a provider, the arrest wasn’t hobby-related. The general rule is also that you shouldn’t bring your conflicts with other members to the board. We generally don’t want to see providers airing each other’s dirty laundry in public. Everyone will probably draw the line differently as to when they think it is appropriate to make exceptions to that rule. Drama-fatigue is almost certainly costing you the benefit of the doubt with some of the naysayers. In this particular case, this is the type of information that I would like to have, so I think you made the right call and appreciate you sharing it.

[Guest082515-3]

Thank you for the warning, Ginger.
Sorry about the loss of money and loss of friendship.
You are doing the right thing.
You have done a great job of communicating what happened.
You have a witness and a corroborator.
I am betting that you have the truth on your side.