We may not be hearing from one of our friends after yesterday.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

You do live in a small world!

While the race baiters and mongers are reporting the shooter's KKK connections, they are reporting Obaminable and HoldemClose whining about them being "challenged" in their fiefdom for being Black!

You think what is posted in here is "news"?

Are you just playing dumb asking me these questions? Or are you really?

Originally Posted by stevepar

biggan....
so no one should know about this crime....in order to report the news event the asshole will be mentioned...talked about...probed....prodded from every angle....maybe people can learn from this about the hate that exists in this country...
aside from that you and j.d. need to take sensitivity training....so far you've both made fools of yinz self.....

If you all want to give these people their 15 min of fame go ahead. I don't think they should get any more than the murders that occur every day in KC.Channel 41 ran the story at 4 again at 5 national news also covered it at 5:30 41 again at 6 then ran a special at 6:30.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Over 24 hours have passed and I have time to respond. My original comments were ONLY about some of the antisemitic remarks made on this website by members of the left (never members of the right). They sound a lot like the murderous jackass would make.

To one person, get your facts straight. This jackass is a klansman and not a Nazi. One is a racist democrats and the other is a racist socialist....ummm, maybe they are both the same thing now.

I never brought politics into this discussion.

I can't believe TEX has never heard of this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689471.html

but going off the ABC link, we know that this jackass was a klansman but we don't know what political party he was is a part of which leads me to believe democrat. Face it, if he was a registered republican it would be all over the news by now. Kind of like that other moron out in Arizona. Once we know where he was coming from the media kind of moved on about his motivation.

Was curious JD why you keep calling these right wing hate groups democrats?

[heinz5710]

Sensitive aren't we. I think the reason someone mentioned that it was not a tea party member is that tea party people are often labeled fanatics. In fact, after several of the mass shootings the media has tried to imply that maybe Rush Lembaugh was to blame or Fox news. Sorry, but most of the wackos and violent types sprout from the left side of the political spectrum. The fact is that not all democrats are wacko killers and very few conservatives are violent even though we believe in peace through strength. The facts are that more violence occurs when your enemies perceive you as weak. It is going to take a long time to right the ship after Obama if that can be done at all. We live in a violent world and this latest incident proves that. It wasn't the fault of either political party. Yet, both sides get defensive here. Let us wise up and discuss what we have in common. No one wants things like this to happen.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Are you just playing dumb asking me these questions? Or are you really?

Does the word "rhetorical" have any meaning to you?

And just for you, even though the word may "sound" familiar ...

.. it has nothing to do with your "rectum"!

(Recognizing your "analistic" perspective on life!)

For you to suggest another person is dumb is ... well .... the height of ignorance! It's like a rock accusing someone of being "dumb."

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by bigtex

The patriarch of the Idiot Family ...

So says the pinnacle percher of ignorance.

The OP has the freedom to express what he desires.

Your "boss" has not given away the internet access yet!

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Does the word "rhetorical" have any meaning to you?

And just for you, even though the word may "sound" familiar ...

.. it has nothing to do with your "rectum"!

(Recognizing your "analistic" perspective on life!)

For you to suggest another person is dumb is ... well .... the height of ignorance! It's like a rock accusing someone of being "dumb."

You bringing Obie and Holder up on a right wing hate shooting is stupid. Or dumb take your pick. Quit worrying about my rectum there is nothing for you there. Ridiculous fits you better than rhetorical. How about dumb as a stump? Fit better than a rock?

[JD Barleycorn]

Sadly, there are some people who look forward to events like this. The Bloomberg anti-gun group has been set up to respond to any gun shooting event. They are ready to push their agenda while standing on the backs of the dead and wounded.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Sadly, there are some people who look forward to events like this. The Bloomberg anti-gun group has been set up to respond to any gun shooting event. They are ready to push their agenda while standing on the backs of the dead and wounded.

Yes, it is almost like they secretly want some Tea Party guy to kill off 100 people with an assault rifle, so they can kill off the Tea Party and guns all at once. They would consider the actual people killed collateral damage.
In this case, it looks like the dumb bastard killed a couple of innocent Methodists, and no Jewish people. So it is, at best, an attempted hate crime in addition to three counts of murder.

[stevepar]

jewishlawyer....
why not look up the definition of a hate crime....
I can't believe you're willing to give this guy a pass on a hate crime....the guy was a grand dragon or some other high level mucky muck in the clan....he constantly made serious anti jewish statements....adored adolph hitler and his "final solution"to kill all the jews....
you're actually the anti jewish lawyer....

[JD Barleycorn]

Well, conservatives have traditionally not been supportive of hate crime legislation. We don't care about someone's motivation, we care about the act. What does it serve society that if someone kills someone or if the hate the group that their victim belongs to. Murder is murder. Using the hatecrime legislation serves two bad purposes; it allows the powers that be single out certain people for greater punishment (not all hate crimes are murder) and it allows the powers that be to reduce sentences on people because it was not a "hate" crime.

Note George Zimmerman, they wanted a hate crime charged against him because the perp was black and the shooter was white....errr. hispanic...ummmm a white hispanic. I had a relative raped and murdered by two black men down in Tennessee but they were not charged with a hate crime. She was white and they were the victims because they were black.

This is Kansas and I expect this guy will be found guilty of a capital crime and sentenced to death. Why would a hate crime charge change any of that?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

Yes, it is almost like they secretly want some Tea Party guy to kill off 100 people with an assault rifle, so they can kill off the Tea Party and guns all at once. They would consider the actual people killed collateral damage.
In this case, it looks like the dumb bastard killed a couple of innocent Methodists, and no Jewish people. So it is, at best, an attempted hate crime in addition to three counts of murder.

Don't forget the Catholic woman killed also. Seeing he committed the act at the JCC and thought he was terrorizing Jews he will be eligible for a hate crime.

[stevepar]

it is hard to believe that some of you are arguing that this is not a hate crime....

jewish lawyer....
you should convert to a religion where jews are hated....it would seem to fit you better than your judaism does....

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Well, conservatives have traditionally not been supportive of hate crime legislation. We don't care about someone's motivation, we care about the act. What does it serve society that if someone kills someone or if the hate the group that their victim belongs to. Murder is murder. Using the hatecrime legislation serves two bad purposes; it allows the powers that be single out certain people for greater punishment (not all hate crimes are murder) and it allows the powers that be to reduce sentences on people because it was not a "hate" crime.

Note George Zimmerman, they wanted a hate crime charged against him because the perp was black and the shooter was white....errr. hispanic...ummmm a white hispanic. I had a relative raped and murdered by two black men down in Tennessee but they were not charged with a hate crime. She was white and they were the victims because they were black.

This is Kansas and I expect this guy will be found guilty of a capital crime and sentenced to death. Why would a hate crime charge change any of that?

you're not a conservative, you're a dumbass

[i'va biggen]

Pretty conservative of you CJ7 stopping at dumbass.

[CuteOldGuy]

So, if it had been a random shooting instead of a targeted shooting, would it be classified a "like" crime?