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knotty man · 02-20-2011, 04:59 PM

ok . i understand that part . in that she received AND posted of knowledge she shouldnt have been privy to. im not defending that. im simply asking if the review was false from the get go isnt all info received viewed as "fruit of a poisoned tree".

Yssup Rider · 02-20-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Whispers

BB happens.... It's a pretty sure thing though that any acknowledgment of it is going to be vehemently denied.....

The review belongs to the reviewer.....

I must be going blind then.

Yssup Rider · 02-20-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by knotty man

ok . i understand that part . in that she received AND posted of knowledge she shouldnt have been privy to. im not defending that. im simply asking if the review was false from the get go isnt all info received viewed as "fruit of a poisoned tree".

If that was the case, then staff approved a bogus review then.

Did you read it? Didn't seem like bullshit to me.

knotty man · 02-20-2011, 05:09 PM

YR thanks for qouting...so from what i understand a reviewer is free to put whatever he chooses to put in a review whether true or not and she has no recourse but to deal with the others who call and expect the same or rebutt it and be outed for privacy issues. seems either way shes screwed

knotty man · 02-20-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

If that was the case, then staff approved a bogus review then.

Did you read it? Didn't seem like bullshit to me.

no i didnt. i dont have BCD access. but im not defending her. just asking that if they never met and he can post a review, whats to stop any of us fron doing the same. it would certainly be an easier and cheaper way of getting PA, and if you have a beef with a lady , certainly a way to throw a wrench in her works. just worried of the ramifications of this. i certanly have no idea of what happened or even if it happened at all

Codybeast · 02-20-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Whispers

BB happens.... It's a pretty sure thing though that any acknowledgment of it is going to be vehemently denied.....

True... What I don't get is true or not why any guy who might be privy to and happy about receiving such special treatment from a provider would ever talk about it knowing the consequences. Damaging to all parties. I don't mean in this thread but in general. Just seems dumb as a Humpty for any guy to do that.

Whispers · 02-20-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by knotty man

no i didnt. i dont have BCD access. but im not defending her. just asking that if they never met and he can post a review, whats to stop any of us fron doing the same. it would certainly be an easier and cheaper way of getting PA, and if you have a beef with a lady , certainly a way to throw a wrench in her works. just worried of the ramifications of this. i certanly have no idea of what happened or even if it happened at all

Over time..... reviews build the reliability and integrity of both the hobbyist reviewing as well as the Provider being reviewed....

If all a provider had to do was say "I didn't ever see him" then poof... all hher negative reviews would disappear over night ....

We used to have that problem on ASPD.....

Yssup Rider · 02-20-2011, 08:44 PM

knottyman --

Are you discounting the possibility that a provider might not remember everybody she sees? Especially in the night? Especially after "happy hour?" Especially after the what-have-you has kicked in?

I've read that review several times now and not only does it look legitimate (benign even) but also doesn't infer what the OP is denying.

This looks to me to be an open and shut case of BULLSHIT!

saj1000 · 02-20-2011, 09:01 PM

I agree with Yssup Rider. Coleen has been posting heavily all week to raise money for a car...and now she states she was out of town? I call BS.

And, the guy never gave a NO review. Nor did he state he got BBFS. You can fuck in the shower with a condom...right?

And I say this having been cleared by Coleen...never having seen her...but we did plan on getting together at some point. She looks like a Fox. Was going to see her the other day and saw the Pregnant/CBJ on her p411 and had second thoughts and did not push for a meet.

Only way she could infer BBFS was implied was a WK told her.....

I'm not the moderator or judge/jury of the site...I won't say suspend or ban.

All I can say is...she is FINE!

knotty man · 02-20-2011, 09:02 PM

im not debating the validity of his review or her rebuttal. i simply just dont know. im just wanting to know whats the rule on false activities on reviews or on reviews that alledgedly never happened. is there some type of recourse to both parties so situations like this dont happen

saj1000 · 02-20-2011, 09:05 PM

Oh...had to add...Coleen, I think you are smokin' hot! Your skin is pristine and your eyes are mesmerizing...

I could look past the pregnancy/husband...but the other, for the scratch...UH-UH!

Spacemtn · 02-20-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleen

i have recieved emails saying bbfs in shower was in the review whether it is or not idk all i know is i have never seen a lonestar guy never heard of him and the review was posted yesterday so idk but like i said i have ben out of town just got back today so i am not too sure all i know is i dont appreciate reviews frm people i have not seen

The proper way to handle this is to PM or RTM the post to a Mod. Posting info from a restricted area is not only forbidden, but now requires the source of this info. Please PM the info to me ASAP. I am posting this so any provider in the same position will know the proper way to handle this in the future.

Spacemtn
AustinModStaff

knotty man · 02-20-2011, 09:25 PM

thanks space for the explanation. but what of the WK who let her know? is he to be punished. the reason i ask is if my atf were to have a review posted on her with activities that i KNOW are clearly not part of her normal menu, am i bound by this "guy code wall of silence" and let her suffer for what she clearly had nothing to do with and obviously has no knowledge of. or should i let her know so she can alert a mod and have me pointed or worse banned. where does a hobbyists loyalty lay. to seeking the truth in reviews or towards his brothers no matter the cost to the lady

lonestar733 · 02-20-2011, 09:50 PM

wow, what a mess! can everyone please take a deep breath? i am still rather new here, and i tried to post an honest, balanced review of my recent meeting with coleen. since there is so much controversy, i will make the following statements, true to what happened, and everyone can hopefully dial it down and have a little kindness. here goes:

i did spend an hr with coleen. there ABSOLUTELY WAS NO BB ANYTHING!!!

how anyone can infer this from my review is beyond me. i listed 'mpcfs' under activities, which to my understanding, means covered sex. i did forget to write in the ros the specific words, 'put cover on', and i apologize for that. there is still no way anyone could take away that i said anything was bb.

understandably, given the information the WK gave coleen, she is trying to set the record straight, even if it means saying we never met. she also must have a realistic concern about damage to her reputation, business, etc. so i think everyone should bear that in mind and cut a huge amount of slack here.

this was the first review in which i was a little more candid about things i didn't like, none of which have anything to do with the controversy at hand. having said that, i still recommended yes, given that other people would not all feel the same way as me. i also gave high praise for coleen's positive qualities, which are many and admirable. anyone who takes the time to read my other reviews will find a consistent tone of appreciation and consideration for the women i have seen.

i think coleen is a truly nice woman with a good heart, and it pains me to see all this taking place. i do think this has gotten completely out of hand due to 'the larger issue'- the sanctity of ros information. if coleen broke the rules, consider the circumstances as she understood them, and call it even, give her a mulligan, and let's start over with everyone having a clean slate. she, just like all of us, is trying to make her way in this world, and it would be wrong to damage her efforts to do so.

for myself, if i am to be flamed or blacklisted, that would suck, but such is life. i have traveled this path trying to find sexual satisfaction with some human connection in these encounters. this site is quite valuable since it allows a more open exchange of infomation between all parties, a difficult task given the puritan country we live in. but it seems like these types of controversies just bring it all to a state of mutual animosity between providers and hobbyists, leading to mistrust and meanness on everyone's part. that is a genuine shame. there really should be a place on eccie for anyone to cry foul in a more private manner, for instance, just to the mods, and for the matter to then be discussed with just the concerned parties.

i wish coleen the best and hope she can get past this mess, she is a good person and a really beautiful girl.

Yssup Rider · 02-20-2011, 09:56 PM

Thanks lonestar. I think you're being a standup guy about this. I read your review and know that you're telling the truth. Someone obviously told the provider a bunch of bullshit ... possibly someone who doesn't read very well (not that there aren't at least two generations of Americans who fit into that category!)

Now if we could just find the WK who was leaking the ML info, bad or not ....