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02-02-2013, 11:45 PM
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Now you are just trying to lie (badly). Most terrorist deaths occurred at the World Trade Center in the building and not on the plane. Some dead at an embassy, some more dead on a navy ship, some more dead alongside a road, a couple of dead on the streets of New York City, some more dead on a cruise ship, some dead on a bus, some dead on a train...notice how your numbers only talk about planes and now you look very stupid.
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Read this and come back with some lie or distortion.
http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-a...the-real-odds/
We need to separate the probability that an event may occur in our country and the probability that it will occur to us as individuals. In making an informed decision about my own behavior, I need to know the probability that I will be personally affected by a terrorist act, not what the probability is that such an act may occur at some place and some time.
We each have many opportunities to take various actions each day. Each opportunity has multiple choices and multiple outcomes. Each of us must independently make our own decisions, but we are being given incomplete information on which to base these decisions. As a result we may have been unnecessarily cautious.
The economic cost to our nation in lost expenditures, resulting in lost jobs and lost businesses, has been enormous. While the impact of any potential event on any one of us is slight, the impact of the sum of our individual behaviors is great. There is a key question that we need to consider: What are the odds that I, myself, will be at the exact wrong place at the exact wrong time?
While any terrorist event is horrible, if I act with respect to my own real risk and the probability that I, personally, will be affected, then I can return to a more normal life. If I act as if each terrorist act will be directed specifically at me, then I will hide, and collectively we will all hide
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Most of those murders that you scream about (like a girl) happened in cities with strict gun control. So once again you lie badly.
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Check out England where they actually have 'strict' gun laws.
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02-02-2013, 11:51 PM
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. According to a recent Brown University study, the wars and their ripple effects have cost the United States $3.7 trillion, or more than $12,000 per American.
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What say you, CuteOldCocksucker?
Which numbers are closer to the truth? JD's 1.2 Trillion or my 4 Trillion?
Now remember you and JD call yourselves Conservatives! Does that include lying about the real costs of wars?
Be like saying your car cost you 40k but not counting gas and insurance and what it cost to maintain it.
Is that how real Conservatives do math problems?
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02-03-2013, 12:03 AM
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I am not a conservative, and have never called myself one. I oppose the wars regardless of how much they cost.
Once again, you have to lie about me to make a point. You really need a life.
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02-03-2013, 12:06 AM
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I am not a conservative, and have never called myself one. I oppose the wars regardless of how much they cost.
Once again, you have to lie about me to make a point. You really need a life.
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that is not what I asked dickhead.
I asked which you thought was closer to the truth, JD's 1.2 Trillion or my 4 Trillion.
I know you do not have the balls to answer , so just STFU and move along.
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02-03-2013, 12:11 AM
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I don't care. You lied about me again, and I called you on it. You have a problem with JD, and want me involved because you have some sort of fetish about being "better" than me. Your obsession with me is creepy. Get a life.
Now, you have the last word, as I know you must. I'm doing something else. Besides, you bore me.
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02-03-2013, 12:17 AM
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Simple math probem and you bug out!
Good riddance.
JD for damn sure can't answer it with a straight face...well neither one of you can with a straight face!
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02-03-2013, 01:38 AM
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Is that your answer? Ripple effects? Kind of squishy as far as what you're talking about. Kind of liberal thinking. This program will cost the taxpayer 100 billion dollars, maybe 150 billion...or it could be as high as 200 billion...maybe more. There are ripple effects that we can't compute. Come on WTF even the Obama White House has said over 1 trillion but not over 2 trillion.
By the way I AM a conservative. A fiscal conservative, a foreign policy conservative, and a economic conservative. Notice I didn't say social conservative. I'm more libertarian on that score but that does not mean anything goes. If you keep up this lying shit you pull I am going to move out of your brain. The rent is cheap but there is this smell of something rotting inside your head.
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02-03-2013, 10:52 AM
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And you stand in the sun.Suffered concussions from banging you head on the headboard when you are getting butt fucked by Glenn.
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02-03-2013, 12:30 PM
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To be accurate Essence he didn't say oxygen, he said air and by that I assume that he means the combination of gases surrounding us and not one in particular. When ice forms it tends to break things apart so it is true that it expands when freezing. Part of that is air trapped inside the ice and the other part is the lattice..
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The hole you are digging is getting deeper.
He said
Because the air trapped in the ice diplaces an equal amount of water it is placed in and keeps part of the ice afloat. As the ice melts, the oxygen is released.....
which is such rubbish, as any fifth grader will tell you (well, accoring to that idiot CoG) and then you try to defend this nonsense? And add fuel to his pants on fire?
In danger of provoking that nitwit again, but I did actually study chemistry and crystallography at honours degree level.
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02-03-2013, 02:07 PM
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If I fill a glass jar with water and freeze it, what happens?
None of this changes the fact that the sun has more to do with the climate, ozone holes, and climate change than man does.
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02-03-2013, 02:14 PM
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If I fill a glass jar with water and freeze it, what happens?
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i give up
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02-03-2013, 03:08 PM
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None of this changes the fact that the sun has more to do with the climate, ozone holes, and climate change than man does.
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Depends what you mean by 'more' - it is a sesitivity issue, if x changes, how much does Y change - so we need to know what changes in the sun and the magnitude before answering.
But in very broad terms, no doubt.
I hope you are hereby dissociating yourself from the mumkins on here who say man has NO effect on climate. Or that we should not take precautions against both natural and man made changes in our climate.
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02-03-2013, 03:18 PM
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Check out England where they actually have 'strict' gun laws.
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I think that if you are using this as an argument for strict gun laws in the US, you have to be very careful, it is not easy to extrapolate. You have to look at the preponderance of guns already in circulation, for example.
BTW, it turns out that the summer riots a couple of years ago did have a connection with guns.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...don-riots.html
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02-03-2013, 03:18 PM
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Depends what you mean by 'more' - it is a sesitivity issue, if x changes, how much does Y change - so we need to know what changes in the sun and the magnitude before answering.
But in very broad terms, no doubt.
I hope you are hereby dissociating yourself from the mumkins on here who say man has NO effect on climate. Or that we should not take precautions against both natural and man made changes in our climate.
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Of course Man has some effect on climate. If I piss in the ocean, I raise the sea level, just not very much. I put CO2 into the atmosphere every time I exhale, just not very much. Every time a mouse farts the level of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, increases, just not very much.
The question is how much does man effect the climate. If we have to bankupt our selves to significantly reduce CO2 production and in return we only reduce the temperature by a tiny amount, it's not worth it. My guess is, that's the reality. Most changes in global temperature are caused by solar cycles. Man's effect on global temperature change is insignificant. IMHO
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02-03-2013, 06:29 PM
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If I fill a glass jar with water and freeze it, what happens?
None of this changes the fact that the sun has more to do with the climate, ozone holes, and climate change than man does.
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Depends if you put a lid on it or not..
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