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Old 03-20-2015, 06:07 PM   #31
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... I like Karl Marx's defintion as follows:

"a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs."

That's the type of government I think we need.

Think for yourself people. Anyone, especially Fox News and Murdoch can make you think that a society run by its own people, cannot possibly survive. I tend to disagree.
So, let me get this straight, you think class war is a good thing, right?
If someone reaches a higher income class, it simply cannot be fair, right?
There is no way that one person can legitimately achieve more than another?
Am I reading you right?

Who is it, in your Communistic Utopia, that determines "abilities and needs"?

All property is Publically Owned???
Is that really what you think of, as Utopia???

Are you sure, that you can think for yourself? Freely?
I tend to disagree.

Sounds more like Moronism to me.
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:02 PM   #32
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So, let me get this straight, you think class war is a good thing, right?
If someone reaches a higher income class, it simply cannot be fair, right?
There is no way that one person can legitimately achieve more than another?
Am I reading you right?

Who is it, in your Communistic Utopia, that determines "abilities and needs"?

All property is Publically Owned???
Is that really what you think of, as Utopia???

Are you sure, that you can think for yourself? Freely?
I tend to disagree.

Sounds more like Moronism to me.
I agree 100% and NICE avatar!
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:13 PM   #33
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I agree 100% and NICE avatar!
Thanks, SLOBBRIN!
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Old 03-21-2015, 12:41 AM   #34
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So, let me get this straight, you think class war is a good thing, right?
If someone reaches a higher income class, it simply cannot be fair, right?
There is no way that one person can legitimately achieve more than another?
Am I reading you right?

Who is it, in your Communistic Utopia, that determines "abilities and needs"?

All property is Publically Owned???
Is that really what you think of, as Utopia???

Are you sure, that you can think for yourself? Freely?
I tend to disagree.

Sounds more like Moronism to me.
That's the point. It's not communism of an authority demands redistribution by force. That is called "tyranny".
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Old 03-21-2015, 12:42 AM   #35
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:27 AM   #36
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HAHAHA ... Like YOUve ever seen the inside of a Starbuck's! LMAO!

Ignorant fuck, SLOBBRIN. You never make a point. Never. You only cut and paste anti-OBAMA bullshit, race baiting bullshit, or just plain nonsense.

Plain and simple, you're no different than the vagrant who wanders the street muttering to himself despite the fact that nobody's listening.

This is yet another example of the ASSHoly trinity doing what they do best.

ignorant fuck.
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:25 PM   #37
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Countries such as Cuba, North Korea, China, North Vietnam are closes to what is considered "True Communism" Which one of those countries would you like America to resemble?


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Not my idea of good government. I like a more social democratic style, such as France. Equator has also made huge progressive movement.

I think the new and younger political minds should study Marx because a lot of his ideas are good. Mostly, the ideas that empower workers and society as a whole.
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Old 03-22-2015, 06:57 PM   #38
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You're dreaming. The people don't rule under communism. Cuba under Castro was said to be fully communist. Do you think the people ruled there? If you're trying to conjure up an ideal scenario under Communism I suspect you'll end up disappointing yourself. America's form of Government may have it's flaws but you are free to own property. In a communistic form of Government you are not the owner of your property. Communism is essentially People by the Government, Of the Government, for the Government. Communism is also typically a classless society. What you get is a ruling class and a peasant class, without much prospect of moving up. Not like here in America where a poor man can achieve wealth, or at least better himself without anyone stopping him. It's not that I am afraid of change as long as I have some degree of control over that change. For politicians to float an idea of change in the form of communism to better society in a manner that puts everyone on the same economic scale. No thanks that's not the change I would sign up for. That leads to greater oppression than we have now.

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There are different definitions of "communism". Just google the definition. From one extreme to the next. I just want to move away from the military totalitarian government that we are edging toward. Reminds me of Nazi Germany. Look at how the police are becoming more and more military like and brutalizing innocent citizens for speaking their beliefs. It's really scary.

Also, one half of the budget is spent on the military to invade other countries for no reason at all. Why do we not take that money and invest it right here in our own country? We can help small businesses and make it harder for the major multi-national corporations to monopolize the economy. I do not have a college education, so I might word some of my posts incorrectly. However, I know from living the years I have, that we are not headed in the right direction. We are being ruled by persons with a hidden agenda, a very selfish hidden agenda.

Now, our government is trying to make Canada, United States and Mexico all under one ruling government. Britian is trying to do the same with other smaller European countries. We are moving toward a "New World Order" under the neoconservative special interest groups. This is the picture I see.
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