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Old 09-28-2012, 02:59 PM   #31
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publish the details of an investigation so morons on a hooker board can bitch about the way things are being handled ..
Of course not. Publish the FACTS that an investigation is ongoing and by whom so that the United States citizens can know what their administration is doing about the slaughter of a fine man and ambassador and the invasion of U.S. property (unless you want to call it a "trespass on U.S. property to fit your LE scenario) ...

.. the guys on the Hooker board .. and the guys "in the street" ... along with the guys in the media .. are trying to figure exactly who is "in charge" ..

probably the same ass-holes defending Obaminable's sorry ass handling of the slaughter and apparently some mutilation of an ambassaor .... were screaming ...

bloody murder about Bush II hesitating for 18 seconds when he got knews of 911 attacks. We are approaching 18 days and counting and the idiots you want to put back in for FOUR MORE still haven't decided what happened and how to respond!

I realize you must be embarrassed by your man's lack of leadership .. but ...

.... hold your head high and your nose higher when you vote for him.

I know he stinks! ........ But hey, it's only for FOUR MORE YEARS!
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:06 PM   #32
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no offense, but your thought process is tantamount to a fly buzzing around a horses ass ..
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:16 PM   #33
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"Reports" ... "counter-intelligence"? .... that's some funny crap right there!

May be OBL really isn't dead ...

... "we" were just claiming "we" killed him do depress his followers into surrendering and to give "a fade" to the "tea partiers" so they wouldn't run a candid against "us"!

More evidence that liberals actually believe they are smarter than ....

.... conservative THINKERS!

Don't know for sure about the liberals,but we independents have you beat hands down.Our brains aren't clouded with party BS.
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Old 09-28-2012, 07:37 PM   #34
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Friday, 28 September, CNN reports the FBI wants U.S. military to serve as security, but Libya will not approve U.S. troops in Benghazi.


Thursday, 27 September, reports

AC360 EXCLUSIVE REPORTING – Not one FBI Agent in Benghazi Embassy Crime Scene
Exclusive reporting on 360 last night: Sources telling us the crime scene in Benghazi, Libya where four Americans were killed is still not secure and not one FBI agent has been allowed on the site. CNN National Security Contributor Fran Townsend had the breaking details.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/20...y-crime-scene/
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Old 09-28-2012, 07:48 PM   #35
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Don't know what important facts can be gained from a burned and bombed out scene at this date.More important data can be gained from interrogation of witnesses .
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:45 PM   #36
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Timpage: Is the FBI on the ground? No. Is there an investigation? NO. What is the White House waiting for? The investigation to conclude. See a pattern?

I can look up a guy I served with. He spent a week in Lebanon picking through the rubble searching for survivors and then bodies. So CJ you and your "exact" knowledge can go to hell. I don't think you live your life that way. If you walked outside and saw your windshield smashed along with about 30 other cars. You see man running amok with a baseball bat. Do you say to yourself, "I didn't see him hit my car so I can't think that he did it."?

Ekim makes a valid point (yes, yes, I know it happens sometimes) what can we get from a burned out building? Very little. Which is why the embassy should have been occupied by Marines 18 days ago. Then the FBI can come in and actually start an investigation. Well, I can that after January Barack will need a new job. I can see him as a criminal investigator that never solves a crime but successfully blames that failure on someone else.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:52 PM   #37
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Crazy fuckers. Every last one of you. May you rape a sow...
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:24 AM   #38
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The FBI is not on the ground because of security issues.
No shit Sherlock. There are terrorists killing Americans. Although the Obama Administration's story is that a Youtube video caused it. Except now Youtube has taken it down in most ME countries. So we should be able to send the FBI agents in. If it were for those terrorists that is.

Shaking the bush boss!

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Don't know what important facts can be gained from a burned and bombed out scene at this date.More important data can be gained from interrogation of witnesses .
Fact: CNN waltzed in and procured the Ambassador's diary. Fact: interrogation of "REAL" witnesses is the last thing the Obama administration wants.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:24 AM   #39
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Don't know what important facts can be gained from a burned and bombed out scene at this date.More important data can be gained from interrogation of witnesses .
You watch too much TV for your "crime scene investigation" knowledge ... and

for the other "military criminal investigation" experts providing excuses for the Obaminable line of bullshit ...

the Libyan government allowed security for the embassy and the Libyan government will allow security for the FBI. #1: the FBI has "in-house security" for its crime scene forensic teams and #2: other "civilian" agencies have "in-house security" and #3 there are sufficient "civilian" contractors to provide security.

ekim ... all I have to say about your revelation is: What "witnesses"?

Those who the Libyan government produces? Those who the Libyan government rounded up after the fact? Those who the Libyan government have in custody?

Deputy John Doe could interview them, as long as he had a translator, and he doesn't need any "security" or "military" protection to do it.

This current bullshit reminds me of the U.S.S. Cole fiasco. Proganda crap.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:10 AM   #40
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Stevie go take off your big boy pants. It was a barracks and not an embassy. The FBI forensics people were identifying bodies and not placing blame. The terrorists wanted the credit.

I would like one you to explain why the FBI is still not on the ground but CNN can go in and find a journal. Any evidence is gone or tainted for a "criminal" investigation. Once again we see the difference between a liberal and conservative mindset; terrorism is criminal to libs and war to conservatives. No, we see the difference between someone who knows what they are talking about and you. The FBI has no authority outside of the embassy. Also, the evidence was gone or tainted when hundreds of protesters went through the compound. And how do you know the FBI hasn't already been there? If it's a war zone like you claim, why would we send in more civilians? Make up your fucking mind! Two of those men were killed four hours later than the first two. Flying time from Italy is less than that. Where was the response like Oliver North did with the Achille Lauro hijackers? Epic Fail.

WTF, go help Stevie change his pants.
CNN can go in because the terrorists want them there to cover the slaughter of the FBI agents some douche bag like you would send in.

Another well thought out position by "the teacher".
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:20 AM   #41
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No shit Sherlock. There are terrorists killing Americans. Although the Obama Administration's story is that a Youtube video caused it. Except now Youtube has taken it down in most ME countries. So we should be able to send the FBI agents in. If it were for those terrorists that is.

Shaking the bush boss!

Fact: CNN waltzed in and procured the Ambassador's diary. Fact: interrogation of "REAL" witnesses is the last thing the Obama administration wants.
Fact: CNN wouldn't be subjected to an attack. Fact: The FBI would.
Where did they find the diary? In the compound? The Libyans let CNN "waltz in" to a crime scene? So much for lexus lover's theory that the area was secured.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:50 AM   #42
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To Horsefly and import lover see munchies post...
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:58 PM   #43
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Fact: CNN wouldn't be subjected to an attack. Fact: The FBI would.
Where did they find the diary? In the compound? The Libyans let CNN "waltz in" to a crime scene? So much for lexus lover's theory that the area was secured.
Did you run out of blue ink Munch? Yes they found the diary in the compound. http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/22/world/...nal/index.html I don't see where LL said the area was secured. Since the FBI or US Military isn't there, I doubt the Libyan govt "secured" the area. Unless you consider al Qaeda secured the area. So you are saying the anti-Muslim vid had nothing to do with this assassination?

Yes, the Libyans let CNN waltz in. If it was Anderson Cooper, you and Mike008 it would have been a Conga Line.

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Its laughable, ignorant and deflects the major points of the argument. Like you! Except not as stupid.
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Did you run out of blue ink Munch? Yes they found the diary in the compound. http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/22/world/...nal/index.html I don't see where LL said the area was secured. Since the FBI or US Military isn't there, I doubt the Libyan govt "secured" the area. Unless you consider al Qaeda secured the area. So you are saying the anti-Muslim vid had nothing to do with this assassination?

Yes, the Libyans let CNN waltz in. If it was Anderson Cooper, you and Mike008 it would have been a Conga Line.

Its laughable, ignorant and deflects the major points of the argument. Like you! Except not as stupid.

Only thing you are good for horse fly is buzzing around a horses ass..But I will say you do it well...
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:05 PM   #45
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My opinion of some of you is going down (and I didn't think that was possible). The embassy is US territory and not Libya. Libya does not say that we cannot have military there. They can request of course but they can't demand. Going back to the beginning of the failure; security should have been beefed up prior to 9/11 which would have included marines. Not Irish marines or British marines but United States Marines. The ambassador should not have been traveling on 9/11. All American personnel should have stayed in place that day. That having failed he should have been traveling with armed marines. That having failed which it did, at the first report of trouble marines from Tripoli should have been dispatched. Heavily armed marines. Further help could have come from Sardinia, Italy, Rota, Quatar, or Bahrain and should have been sent to both Cairo and Benghazi. This doesn't even take into account the amphibious ships in the Med though we don't know their exact location. They do carry their own aircraft, vehicles, and plenty of ammo. Okay, none of this happened. The ambassador is murdered along with three other Americans, at sunrise the marines should have landed to take control of the embassy grounds (remember US territory). An FBI team would have already been in the air. Their safety would be assured by the marine contingent. Pressure could have been applied for the cooperation of the Libyan president in exchange for a consideration if we were pleased with the results. I can imagine the consternation in Benghazi looking out to sea at US Navy warships in the harbor, US Navy helicopters flying overhead, and USMC Marine HUMMVs driving around town. Especially after the word gets out that a $100,000 reward is being offered for information resulting in the capture of the ambassador's murderers. Of course I could get some special ops guys to infiltrate the local environs.

On the diplomatic front, my Secretary of State would publicly meet with the Libyan president and the US would state our support for a democratic government (his) and zero tolerance for now and in the future against American interests or lives. The president of Libya would look like our bestest buddy.

Black ops would.... (classified)
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