Mods, Admins...how about dishing out points for whiners that constantly get off-topic?

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

every discussion board [sex-related or not] has their own guidelines and/or rules.
and it seems to me i remember that, based on posts in the past, some of the general eccie membership would like to know about infractions/points [so they dont screw up or for prurient interests].

but, for whatever reasons, the eccie owners decided against that.
and we will prolly never know why they decided that way.

There is one exception, which is when a member is banned. We just dont know the reason. I wish the reason for banishment (excessive points, outting, etc.) Was made public. Members should know if a member outted someone, as this reppresents a danger. If a member is banned for a dangerous behavior such as outting, deceptive behavior such as multiple handles and / or false reviews, I cant comprehend the owner's logic for keeping it hidden.

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by Kendall4U

Get outta my head. It's seriously worse than high school around here. Sheesh. You'd think with almost 800 hookers in Dallas there might be more sexing and way less complaining. SMH.

Yeah, 800 hookers in town...400 are NBA, and the rest all NOT available, at the same time!!

OK, slight exaggeration...but it feels that way sometimes.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

If a member is banned for a dangerous behavior such as outting, deceptive behavior such as multiple handles and / or false reviews, I cant comprehend the owner's logic for keeping it hidden.

I totally agree if you can prove it.

The tough and impossible thing about it though, other than multiple handles which can be known by admission or by the same IP address, although sometimes, the public WiFi hotspots are going to be tough. Outing and false reviews are tricky, as you have proof of the offenses, other than hear say opinions on an internet board or any 2nd hand info, there is very little that can be done. Unless there is an admittance somewhere like a provider rebuking the review on a supposed fake review or on the outing, a person that another member was outed to acknowledges the outing first hand, then you have your proof. Any admissions anywhere to either one on a current member?

[blowmypop23]

Forget screwing and complaining, it's football Sunday. Opening week, time to hit bombshells for some chicken fried steak and big screen tv's.

[Mojojo]

Originally Posted by davidfree986

Sometimes that may not help.

Well to be blunt, its not burger kind so you don't get things you way around here all the time but each response to infraction is considered however like normal society offenders don't always believe they're wrong when they are.

See above..

Originally Posted by pmdelites

every discussion board [sex-related or not] has their own guidelines and/or rules.
and it seems to me i remember that, based on posts in the past, some of the general eccie membership would like to know about infractions/points [so they dont screw up or for prurient interests].

but, for whatever reasons, the eccie owners decided against that.
and we will prolly never know why they decided that way.

Actually that's more a practice we've adopted out of respect. To be fair though we do try to leave footnotes for guidance or indicators of what's acceptable and what's not. Most people just login and start typing without ever glancing at the guidelines at least once.

pm my man I'll admit it to you bro, I don't believe in publicly shaming who's received infractions or suspension. I just find that disrespectful to the receiving party.....

[Luke Skywalker]

Davidfree986,

Thats not my point. My point is if someone is banned for outting, false reviews or multip!e handles (i dont care how mods made a determination)... And you know well such banishment occurs... In this case, it would be better for the community to know why the member was banned.

[Mojojo]

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Davidfree986,

Thats not my point. My point is if someone is banned for outting, false reviews or multip!e handles (i dont care how mods made a determination)... And you know well such banishment occurs... In this case, it would be better for the community to know why the member was banned.

There may be assumptions, theory's and some people can put things together but that's not how the staff does it. Members are free to post their views but we don't get into the habit of doing that ourselves.

[Boltfan]

Originally Posted by Mojojo

There may be assumptions, theory's and some people can put things together but that's not how the staff does it. Members are free to post their views but we don't get into the habit of doing that ourselves.

So let's say, in theory, a member was banned for outing someone and then created multiple handles to circumvent that ban. There is proof posted in multiple forums of such events. Some of the is proof is in open forums, some, such as the original outing post, is in a restricted access forum (for example, the mens lounge or provider only areas).

How should the community react to such a member being part of the general population, in your opinion? Should that type of behavior be shared with the community by ownership, in your opinion.

If the opinion of ownership is the guilty members are free to do as they please, what is the penalty to other members if they provide links to the offending material in an attempt to make other members aware of such offending actions?

Lastly, in theory anyways, wouldn't it be useful and better for board discussions, if members allowed to return by ownership after committing outings and subversive actions be noted to the community so they can judge for themselves what weight, if any, they choose to apply to future community interactions?

Theoretically of course.

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

every discussion board [sex-related or not] has their own guidelines and/or rules.
and it seems to me i remember that, based on posts in the past, some of the general eccie membership would like to know about infractions/points [so they dont screw up or for prurient interests].

but, for whatever reasons, the eccie owners decided against that.
and we will prolly never know why they decided that way.

Originally Posted by Mojojo

Actually that's more a practice we've adopted out of respect. To be fair though we do try to leave footnotes for guidance or indicators of what's acceptable and what's not. Most people just login and start typing without ever glancing at the guidelines at least once.

pm my man I'll admit it to you bro, I don't believe in publicly shaming who's received infractions or suspension. I just find that disrespectful to the receiving party.....

mojojo, thx for your reply.
so, what is the owner's policy on giving points and on banning members - no public info? or is it to be decided on an area by area basis (e.g., kc, mo might be different than houston?]

are the footnotes you mentioned for admins and mods eyes-only? or are they in a publicly viewable location? if the latter, where are they?

finally, i respect your decision about not wanting to "publicly shame" offenders. is that now a dallas area "policy" or "guideline"? [i dont agree w/ it, but i do respect your decision] do other areas have a different "policy" or "guideline"?

it would really be helpful to me [and maybe to others] to know the owner's stand on this. where can i post that request? or where can i read it?

again, thx for taking the time to reply to my questions.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by Torito

Folks need to read the nasty fucking PMs I receive for giving Off Topic infractions.Torito

Nice to know you're issuing points. Doesn't seem to stop anybody though. The Welcome & Introductions forum might need to be renamed:

"Welcome...And...Are You Fucking NUTS With NO Info Or Pics??"

or...

"Welcome...Don't You Fucking DARE Tell Us You're NBA."

or...

"Welcome...You Want HOW Much?!? LMFAOOOO...!!!"

[pmdelites]

Mods, Admins...how about dishing out points for whiners ??


ooops, i can feel the points coming my way :^) :^) :^) :^) :^)

[Mojojo]

Originally Posted by Boltfan

Lastly, in theory anyways, wouldn't it be useful and better for board discussions, if members allowed to return by ownership after committing outings and subversive actions be noted to the community so they can judge for themselves what weight, if any, they choose to apply to future community interactions?

Theoretically of course.

We've got a plethora of information and a search button to help people look for it. Mod cap aside here but when i ask a source for information I do a check to see how much credibility I can give them.

Originally Posted by pmdelites

mojojo, thx for your reply.
so, what is the owner's policy on giving points and on banning members - no public info? or is it to be decided on an area by area basis (e.g., kc, mo might be different than houston?]

are the footnotes you mentioned for admins and mods eyes-only? or are they in a publicly viewable location? if the latter, where are they?

Yup! You usually see those in the postings which have received staff views for something however that doesn't always mean that person was issued an infraction.

finally, i respect your decision about not wanting to "publicly shame" offenders. is that now a dallas area "policy" or "guideline"? [i dont agree w/ it, but i do respect your decision] do other areas have a different "policy" or "guideline"?

It's neither. It's just a choice we make to show the membership respect. Boardwide you'll pretty much see this same code of conduct from the staff. Of course though we're not perfect so occasional slip ups might happen.


again, thx for taking the time to reply to my questions.

No problem! Again if the members have information they want to discuss go for it, just be sure you don't violate the guidelines.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Davidfree986,

Thats not my point. My point is if someone is banned for outting, false reviews or multip!e handles (i dont care how mods made a determination)... And you know well such banishment occurs... In this case, it would be better for the community to know why the member was banned.

Trouble is Luke, outing, false reviews and even multiple handles sometimes with all the different and free wi fi hotspots are very hard to prove as fact by a mod, much less a regular member, unless a person admitted to the offense somewhere, but even then, caution should be taken on what should actually be believed, or a third party informs on the outing/a provider rebukes a review, you have nothing but possible wanna have it real assumptions and ingrained in you as fact, but in all honesty, you really do not know. Only a fool believes what they read on the internet, even when someone says they did something, how do you know for a fact, especially on this site? Your best bet is to take things said on here with a grain of salt AND take into consideration the source who tells you what to think and their motivations behind it. Once you do that, your perspective may change.

[TheEccie214]

As an ass that's been around and in the hobby several years and received many points and feel by FAR the mods in Dallas are the best. I've earned every point I've received (and deserved more than I've received) and they usually give plenty of warning before points are issued. Your employer doesn't tell you the specific discipline someone received and I see why the mods don't here. I do agree banning, outing, etc, should be shared for the safety of the community. From my experience, when someone gets points they deserve them - if they disagree they're just clueless.

Rambo, you're not being picked on by the mods, I made a rude comment on the board to you a week or 2 ago and got 5 points and I'm sure they didn't tell you it was issued and I feel the points I got were deserved.

That being said, sometimes people put something out there that is a point-worthy comment is just too hard to ignore because I'm a smart-ass.

[Guest112916]

Reading this thread caused me to start my period.